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Life cycle of an engine oil around Jack's household.
#1
J
Jack17
J
Jack17
I've been always wondering about used oils in general. What do you guys do with it? Do you take it to the recycling center, store it or something else?
This is awkward but this is what I do:
Fresh oil, I always use Mobil1 5w20 Full Synthetic - my Tacoma or wife's Camry gets it. 5k miles in Tacoma or 7k miles in Camry earns them vehicles an oil change.
Now I have a few quarts of used oil that I run thru a big funnel that can hold a gallon. I also shove two cotton balls in the spout of that funnel to make my filter. It's a slow process but who cares? Next morning I've an engine oil that looks quite alright. This "second hand" oil gets distributed on as needed bases in between all of my 4-stroke power equipment. I have a habit of changing oil more often then recommended but my machines seem to like it. Really, I've never had any mechanical issues with any of them. They all seem to run smooth, no over-heating, relatively quiet and no metal "dust" in a crank case.
So, now I do an oil change on my power equipment ending up with an oil that went thru two engine recipients...that becomes...did you guess it? Bar Chain lube for my chainsaw! And this is how my used engine oil just vanishes without a trace.
Now you can laugh. :laughing::laughing::laughing:
This is awkward but this is what I do:
Fresh oil, I always use Mobil1 5w20 Full Synthetic - my Tacoma or wife's Camry gets it. 5k miles in Tacoma or 7k miles in Camry earns them vehicles an oil change.
Now I have a few quarts of used oil that I run thru a big funnel that can hold a gallon. I also shove two cotton balls in the spout of that funnel to make my filter. It's a slow process but who cares? Next morning I've an engine oil that looks quite alright. This "second hand" oil gets distributed on as needed bases in between all of my 4-stroke power equipment. I have a habit of changing oil more often then recommended but my machines seem to like it. Really, I've never had any mechanical issues with any of them. They all seem to run smooth, no over-heating, relatively quiet and no metal "dust" in a crank case.
So, now I do an oil change on my power equipment ending up with an oil that went thru two engine recipients...that becomes...did you guess it? Bar Chain lube for my chainsaw! And this is how my used engine oil just vanishes without a trace.
Now you can laugh. :laughing::laughing::laughing:
#2
Ric
Some might say that what you do with your is a great thing but personally when I change oil in the mowers what gets drained and goes back into the 5 gallon container from which it came, goes to Walmart and gets recycled. As far as the car and truck goes I haven't changed oil in a vehicle in probably 30 years. They go back to the dealership and I let them deal with it.
Ric
I've been always wondering about used oils in general. What do you guys do with it? Do you take it to the recycling center, store it or something else?
This is awkward but this is what I do:
Fresh oil, I always use Mobil1 5w20 Full Synthetic - my Tacoma or wife's Camry gets it. 5k miles in Tacoma or 7k miles in Camry earns them vehicles an oil change.
Now I have a few quarts of used oil that I run thru a big funnel that can hold a gallon. I also shove two cotton balls in the spout of that funnel to make my filter. It's a slow process but who cares? Next morning I've an engine oil that looks quite alright. This "second hand" oil gets distributed on as needed bases in between all of my 4-stroke power equipment. I have a habit of changing oil more often then recommended but my machines seem to like it. Really, I've never had any mechanical issues with any of them. They all seem to run smooth, no over-heating, relatively quiet and no metal "dust" in a crank case.
So, now I do an oil change on my power equipment ending up with an oil that went thru two engine recipients...that becomes...did you guess it? Bar Chain lube for my chainsaw! And this is how my used engine oil just vanishes without a trace.
Now you can laugh. :laughing::laughing::laughing:
Some might say that what you do with your is a great thing but personally when I change oil in the mowers what gets drained and goes back into the 5 gallon container from which it came, goes to Walmart and gets recycled. As far as the car and truck goes I haven't changed oil in a vehicle in probably 30 years. They go back to the dealership and I let them deal with it.
#3
J
Jack17
J
Jack17
I have had some bad luck with dealer service in the past. Cars leaking oil while in garage, smoking while driving because dealer forgot to wrench an oil filter a little. Putting wrong oil in to name a few. Worst ever I can think of was with my '96 Bronco XLT back in 2000 I think. Went in to flush out trans fluid. Few months later an oil sleek on the floor! What's going on? Who done it? Ahh...I remember now! Must've been that Ford dealer I went to for trans service a few months ago. Of to the dealer I go...they won't take any responsibility telling me that "I must've hit something...or something else happened" he says to me. Ended up fixing it myself. Drill / tap to a larger size bolt. Lazy mechanic was using an impact wrench on aluminum threads. What else could it be? All but two bolts holding the pan were lose.
#4
R
Rivets
R
Rivets
All oil in our shop gets recycled. Have two 300 gallon tubs for storage, which get pumped about every 6 months. Many of our landscapers drop their used oils off also. A company comes in and pays us between $.50-.90 per gallon. It's a winning proposition for us.
#5
Lawnboy18
Lawnboy18
Once it's used, it gets stored in plastic jugs that are scattered around the garage and outside.
#6
J
Jack17
J
Jack17
Sure sounds like it.:thumbsup: In my case I go thru maybe 30 quarts of oil in a year.A company comes in and pays us between $.50-.90 per gallon. It's a winning proposition for us.
#7
J
Jack17
J
Jack17
I really don't know what to say?!:confused2:Once it's used, it gets stored in plastic jugs that are scattered around the garage and outside.
#8
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
I do about 80 gallons of oil / year.
It goes to a "recycler" no charge , who filters it , does a gravity distillation then sells it to shipping companies who burn it in their engines once in international waters.
Any one who has travelled by freighter will remember billious black oily smoke pouring from the stacks.
More modern ship engines with computer controls apparently do a cleaner burn.
My wodden benches get a good oiling every now & then, keeps the termites at bay & stops the wood drying out .
Down here I need to install a 1000 gallon tank in order to get a paid for pump out service.
In order to install a 1000 gallon above ground tank I need to fit over $ 150,000 worth of anti pollution & leak detection gear then get a developement application processed ( another $ 2000 ) and have some monkey in a pretty painted van come out every 6 months and hit me with a $ 150 bill to tell me all my pollution monotoring gear is actually working although he can not actually tell me how any of it works. ( you got to have fun with these mindless morons some times ).
Thus my empty 44's get refilled with my used oil but about 2000 or so 4 or 5 liter containers of used oil get dumped in the long grass down the side road. although I am slowly taming the jungle so more seem to end up over the fence on a dissused block a few door down.
the dumps here are all run commercially so they only take "clean used oil " and a maximum of 200 litres per visit. A little Hitler watches you tip your oil into the correct tank ( Engine oil , gearbox oil , auto trans oil & cooking oil ) and if he sees any water or paint or anything else that he thinks is not the correct oil you cop another fine.
My wodden bences get a good oiling regularly and I used to oil the unpainted weather boards on my old shed on a different site.
It goes to a "recycler" no charge , who filters it , does a gravity distillation then sells it to shipping companies who burn it in their engines once in international waters.
Any one who has travelled by freighter will remember billious black oily smoke pouring from the stacks.
More modern ship engines with computer controls apparently do a cleaner burn.
My wodden benches get a good oiling every now & then, keeps the termites at bay & stops the wood drying out .
Down here I need to install a 1000 gallon tank in order to get a paid for pump out service.
In order to install a 1000 gallon above ground tank I need to fit over $ 150,000 worth of anti pollution & leak detection gear then get a developement application processed ( another $ 2000 ) and have some monkey in a pretty painted van come out every 6 months and hit me with a $ 150 bill to tell me all my pollution monotoring gear is actually working although he can not actually tell me how any of it works. ( you got to have fun with these mindless morons some times ).
Thus my empty 44's get refilled with my used oil but about 2000 or so 4 or 5 liter containers of used oil get dumped in the long grass down the side road. although I am slowly taming the jungle so more seem to end up over the fence on a dissused block a few door down.
the dumps here are all run commercially so they only take "clean used oil " and a maximum of 200 litres per visit. A little Hitler watches you tip your oil into the correct tank ( Engine oil , gearbox oil , auto trans oil & cooking oil ) and if he sees any water or paint or anything else that he thinks is not the correct oil you cop another fine.
My wodden bences get a good oiling regularly and I used to oil the unpainted weather boards on my old shed on a different site.
#9
Lawnboy18
Don't worry, I will bring them to a shop soon for "recycling"
Lawnboy18
I really don't know what to say?!:confused2:
Don't worry, I will bring them to a shop soon for "recycling"
#10
Lawnboy18
I didn't know the big boats used used oil. Even tho it is not 100% pure is this bad for the engine?
Lawnboy18
I do about 80 gallons of oil / year.
It goes to a "recycler" no charge , who filters it , does a gravity distillation then sells it to shipping companies who burn it in their engines once in international waters.
Any one who has travelled by freighter will remember billious black oily smoke pouring from the stacks.
More modern ship engines with computer controls apparently do a cleaner burn.
My wodden benches get a good oiling every now & then, keeps the termites at bay & stops the wood drying out .
Down here I need to install a 1000 gallon tank in order to get a paid for pump out service.
In order to install a 1000 gallon above ground tank I need to fit over $ 150,000 worth of anti pollution & leak detection gear then get a developement application processed ( another $ 2000 ) and have some monkey in a pretty painted van come out every 6 months and hit me with a $ 150 bill to tell me all my pollution monotoring gear is actually working although he can not actually tell me how any of it works. ( you got to have fun with these mindless morons some times ).
Thus my empty 44's get refilled with my used oil but about 2000 or so 4 or 5 liter containers of used oil get dumped in the long grass down the side road. although I am slowly taming the jungle so more seem to end up over the fence on a dissused block a few door down.
the dumps here are all run commercially so they only take "clean used oil " and a maximum of 200 litres per visit. A little Hitler watches you tip your oil into the correct tank ( Engine oil , gearbox oil , auto trans oil & cooking oil ) and if he sees any water or paint or anything else that he thinks is not the correct oil you cop another fine.
My wodden bences get a good oiling regularly and I used to oil the unpainted weather boards on my old shed on a different site.
I didn't know the big boats used used oil. Even tho it is not 100% pure is this bad for the engine?
#11
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
Big engines run off heavy oils, small engines run off light fuels ( model aeroplanes run off either or metho )
They have injectors like fire hoses, each one individually adjusted in real time and a massive amount of momentum.
So provided the oil is clean & reasonably consistent they can handle it.
not too much different from old tractors than started on petrol then switched to kerosene ( parrafin to some ) once hot.
Ever wondered why airlines go bust as fuel prices fluctuate but shippings companies seem unaffected ?
They have jet engines that can start off burning Jet A1 then once at operating temperatures can burn reprocessed waste oil but the insurance companies will not cover the engine makers nor any airline burning waste oil.
I have a sneaking suspicion back in the 90's when domestic Russian planes were falling like rain from the skies the Soviets were trying duel fuel in their domestic jets but we will never know.
Reprocessed sump oil gets burned in a lot of locomotives as well, it is just a matter of atomising the oil so it can burn which in many cases requires significant pre heating.
They have injectors like fire hoses, each one individually adjusted in real time and a massive amount of momentum.
So provided the oil is clean & reasonably consistent they can handle it.
not too much different from old tractors than started on petrol then switched to kerosene ( parrafin to some ) once hot.
Ever wondered why airlines go bust as fuel prices fluctuate but shippings companies seem unaffected ?
They have jet engines that can start off burning Jet A1 then once at operating temperatures can burn reprocessed waste oil but the insurance companies will not cover the engine makers nor any airline burning waste oil.
I have a sneaking suspicion back in the 90's when domestic Russian planes were falling like rain from the skies the Soviets were trying duel fuel in their domestic jets but we will never know.
Reprocessed sump oil gets burned in a lot of locomotives as well, it is just a matter of atomising the oil so it can burn which in many cases requires significant pre heating.
#12
pugaltitude
I personally would not use used engine oil in chainsaw for the bar
Used engine oil is very carcinogenic.
A test was done many years ago using a dye that could be seen under ultraviolet light.
The test involved running the saw with the dye in the bar oil tank.
The chainsaw was emitting a fine spray which was close to the face which would be breathed in.
About 100 times worse than smoking.
pugaltitude
did you guess it? Bar Chain lube for my chainsaw! And this is how my used engine oil just vanishes without a trace.
Now you can laugh. :laughing::laughing::laughing:
I personally would not use used engine oil in chainsaw for the bar
Used engine oil is very carcinogenic.
A test was done many years ago using a dye that could be seen under ultraviolet light.
The test involved running the saw with the dye in the bar oil tank.
The chainsaw was emitting a fine spray which was close to the face which would be breathed in.
About 100 times worse than smoking.
#13
J
Jack17
That's gonna mess up all my carbon footprint / self-recycling program!!!:ban:
J
Jack17
I personally would not use used engine oil in chainsaw for the bar
Used engine oil is very carcinogenic.
A test was done many years ago using a dye that could be seen under ultraviolet light.
The test involved running the saw with the dye in the bar oil tank.
The chainsaw was emitting a fine spray which was close to the face which would be breathed in.
About 100 times worse than smoking.
That's gonna mess up all my carbon footprint / self-recycling program!!!:ban:
#14
Lawnboy18
Very interesting! I had no idea about this.
Lawnboy18
Big engines run off heavy oils, small engines run off light fuels ( model aeroplanes run off either or metho )
They have injectors like fire hoses, each one individually adjusted in real time and a massive amount of momentum.
So provided the oil is clean & reasonably consistent they can handle it.
not too much different from old tractors than started on petrol then switched to kerosene ( parrafin to some ) once hot.
Ever wondered why airlines go bust as fuel prices fluctuate but shippings companies seem unaffected ?
They have jet engines that can start off burning Jet A1 then once at operating temperatures can burn reprocessed waste oil but the insurance companies will not cover the engine makers nor any airline burning waste oil.
I have a sneaking suspicion back in the 90's when domestic Russian planes were falling like rain from the skies the Soviets were trying duel fuel in their domestic jets but we will never know.
Reprocessed sump oil gets burned in a lot of locomotives as well, it is just a matter of atomising the oil so it can burn which in many cases requires significant pre heating.
Very interesting! I had no idea about this.
#15
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
Every now & then you come across some interesting figures.
I hold shares in BP , Shell & AOR ( Caltex down here ).
The volume of lubricating oil sales are astronomical.
The volumes of lubricating oil recycling are minuscule , around 13%.
Back when I was a metallurgist we used to burn recycled lubricating oil in all the radiant reflection furnaces.
However the price doubled from November to February ( cruise ship season ) so we found some big tanks in the scrap yard, patched them up and filled them to carry us past the peak price periods.
June to August prices go up again but not as much as the summer season.
Recycled oil is popular for oil fired power stations as well but with the local price of coal, not many of them down here.
We were payng some thing like $ 40 / ton as comparred to $ 2000 / ton for new oil. Using 6,000 tons /pa makes a bit of a difference to ones bottom line.
Down side is we had to inject oxygen into the burners to get it to burn properly and I had to manually reprofile the burners daily.
I hold shares in BP , Shell & AOR ( Caltex down here ).
The volume of lubricating oil sales are astronomical.
The volumes of lubricating oil recycling are minuscule , around 13%.
Back when I was a metallurgist we used to burn recycled lubricating oil in all the radiant reflection furnaces.
However the price doubled from November to February ( cruise ship season ) so we found some big tanks in the scrap yard, patched them up and filled them to carry us past the peak price periods.
June to August prices go up again but not as much as the summer season.
Recycled oil is popular for oil fired power stations as well but with the local price of coal, not many of them down here.
We were payng some thing like $ 40 / ton as comparred to $ 2000 / ton for new oil. Using 6,000 tons /pa makes a bit of a difference to ones bottom line.
Down side is we had to inject oxygen into the burners to get it to burn properly and I had to manually reprofile the burners daily.
#16
J
Jack17
J
Jack17
Okay. So this is what I've learned so far...BTW, great responses and I thank you all for that.
1) Do not put used motor oil in a chainsaw because if you inhale your chainsaw you'll risk intestinal heavy metal contamination and/or bleeding.
2) Do not inhale oil mist and smoke tobacco in the same time because you're risking cancer (BIG TIME) or could catch fire and explode.
3) Do not recycle used motor oil because money hungry speculators will resell it to the shipping companies in Australia as a cheap substitute for No2 oil to be burned in the international waters where there aren't any regulations or the Russians will get it and before you know it their planes be falling out of the sky.
4) Do not try to hide used motor oil all over your backyard in plastic containers because your wife will find it, mistaking it for cooking oil, cook your steaks on it and feed you with it.
5) Do not pour used motor oil all over the jungle in a places where indigenous to the land people hang out because they might not like it and ask you to pack up and go back to England or some other Germany where your ancestors came from.
Yeah, I was confused about what to do with used motor oil but with all the answers I got back from you I think I got it now!
1) Do not put used motor oil in a chainsaw because if you inhale your chainsaw you'll risk intestinal heavy metal contamination and/or bleeding.
2) Do not inhale oil mist and smoke tobacco in the same time because you're risking cancer (BIG TIME) or could catch fire and explode.
3) Do not recycle used motor oil because money hungry speculators will resell it to the shipping companies in Australia as a cheap substitute for No2 oil to be burned in the international waters where there aren't any regulations or the Russians will get it and before you know it their planes be falling out of the sky.
4) Do not try to hide used motor oil all over your backyard in plastic containers because your wife will find it, mistaking it for cooking oil, cook your steaks on it and feed you with it.
5) Do not pour used motor oil all over the jungle in a places where indigenous to the land people hang out because they might not like it and ask you to pack up and go back to England or some other Germany where your ancestors came from.
Yeah, I was confused about what to do with used motor oil but with all the answers I got back from you I think I got it now!