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Kohler PH-XT675-2011

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blaster 2023

I bought this Toto mower from a neighbor I was told the mower has not been used. I checked the oil, the oil looked clean and clear almost too clean (like when the engine runs low or out of oil they add new oil after it quits running. I cleaned the carb it had brown powder and rust in the bowel, with the air cleaner removed, on the first pull one backfire, after a few pulls it started with smoke out of exhaust then stopped smoking and stalled. The only way to keep the engine running was to keep the choke closed (with a screwdriver) less than the Vacuum auto choke even after the engine was warmed up it would only runs on a rich mixture, after about 20 minutes it would stay running, when I tried to mow the engine had no power and stalled....when it was running I could hear a sound I have never heard before like high pressure air leak each cycle not constant. Please help, Thank you.


#2

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bertsmobile1

Blown head gasket ?
Carb clogged with dried up fuel ?
Leaking exhaust gasket ?


#3

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blaster 2023

The carb is clean.
What causes the head gasket to fail?
Leaking exhaust gasket I didn't think of that. Between head and muffler?
What engine problems can a leaking exhaust gasket cause, beside the noise?
Thank You.


#4

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Rivets

Because it has been sitting I’ll bet the float level is too low, causing a lean running condition. I would replace the float needle and seat, plus make sure the float is set properly.


#5

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blaster 2023

I don't know Kohler. The Carb has a metal needle with spring and the seat is metal, I don't see a rubber seat like in a Briggs & Stratton.
The float is plastic. Is something missing?
Thank You.


#6

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Rivets

Post the Toro numbers and Kohler engine numbers, I thought you had an older unit with a Briggs on it.


#7

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blaster 2023

These are the numbers I can find, Thank You.

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#8

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Rivets

None of those help. Look under the discharge door, on back of the unit, you should find the Toro numbers. Model and serial.


#9

StarTech

StarTech

Rivets you're going to hate me.

The UPC-A code comes back as TORO - 20371 - 22In OHV Recycler High Wheel Mower with FWD (CARB)

And text file has

Spec No.PH-XT675-2011 (2012)

SERIAL NO. 4200419748

Note on the XT675 the carburetor is only available as a complete assembly; otherwords, no repair kit except for a high altitude kit.


#10

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Rivets

You know how to look up the UPC code and I don’t. Why should I hate you just because you’re ahead of me in that area. Even though I’m north of 70, doesn’t mean I can’t continue learning. I just wish those that come here looking for help wouldn’t think we are all psychic and just post model and serial numbers. They think a mower is a mower and an engine is an engine.


#11

StarTech

StarTech

Not really all that hard...You basically just enter the numbers. But I did cheat a little as I did use my barcode scanner for later lookups.

If you like to it just enter 021038203713 in your search bar. Or you could use https://www.barcodespider.com/

Now since I use a bar code scanner now for my business it is handy to scan barcodes. Right now I got only bar codes loaded but I can add more if I can which format they are in but even my distributors can't tell what those codes some OEM are using on their parts.

Heck if you are still learning you are still alive in my opinion.


#12

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Rivets

I scan bar codes, but I’ll let the rest for the younger guys.


#13

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blaster 2023

What about the Seat, is it rubber and missing or metal with metal pointer needle?


#14

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Rivets

As Star pointed out there are no service parts available for the carb, so needle and seat is not applicable to this carb. This service manual may help you out, depending on your mechanical abilities . If you deside that you want to attempt cleaning this carb, remember there are not replacement parts, so damaged parts will require replacing the carb assembly. The main jet is removable, with the appropriate screwdriver. You need one with a straight end to get at it, many DIY guys will grind the taper off An old one they have in their tool box. You must be very careful when trying to remove or you will damage the jet, at with point you will need to replace the carb. After you get the main jet out you can push the nozzle down to remove it. Watch carefully when removing the nozzle as some will have an O-ring on the end others don’t. This nozzle has small orifaces in it which may be clogged. After cleaning and making sure everything is open reassemble the carb, install and test. https://resources.kohler.com/power/kohler/enginesUS/pdf/14_690_01_EN.pdf

If you just want to replace the carb it is Kohler part number 14-853-90 and costs about $45.00. How you proceed will now be up to you.


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blaster 2023

I understand,
So far I have found Chinese Gaskets and Bread tie as a missing bolt on the engine.
I have ordered a new Carb. What I want to know is the rubber seat missing or is the needle and seat metal to metal?
Every B&S and Lawn-Boy carb I have cleaned had a rubber seat.
Thank you for the part number and Manual link.


#16

StarTech

StarTech

If you just want to replace the carb it is Kohler part number 14-853-90 and costs about $45.00. How you proceed will now be up to you.
According Kohler's Dealers website that is an incorrect part number for the XT675-2011 engine. It is PN
14 853 49-S
and only retails for $25.10. Now several sites I looked are higher priced and I don't blame them due to the very low profit margin.

https://www.propartsdirect.net/kohler-1485349s-carb.aspx

Now when I look under the 14 853 49-S notes there is a carburetor repair kit 14 757 01-S superseded to 14 757 03-S which around $15 retail. Just not worth the trouble due the cost of a replacement carb.

14 853 90-S - KIT,CARB (HUAYI)
14-853 49-S - KIT,CARB (RUIXING), 13MM AUTO CHOKE WO/SHUTOFF

Both of these uses the same carburetor repair kit.

Note I had some more to spare this morning so dug into this deeper.


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SpoolinV70

I believe this carburetor should have a rubber seat, but not the needle. I could be wrong though. I just recently had a Toro with this Kohler XT675 which had similar issues. In my case, the carb kept getting clogged with debris that wasn't sufficiently flushed out of the fuel tank.
Always make sure you remove the main jet and clean it with a wire/paper clip. It is removable on this carb.

Kohler carburetors are very similar to Hondas, from what I've seen. This is the only Kohler I've had aside from ride-ons.


#18

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blaster 2023

I think so too, the rubber seat swells and shuts off the gas, years ago, I would take the carb to a local shop and he would use compressed air to blow it out and replace it.
Now I know what I suspected, Mr. fix-it did more harm than good. I have to check everything now. This mower was made in 2012, 11 years old.
replaced fuel line, Carb on order, change the oil, check breather hole and valve,
Thank You.


#19

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Rivets

Only Walbro carbs use a replaceable viton seat. Walbro carbs are not used on Kohler engines.


#20

StarTech

StarTech

This particular use Viton (rubber tip) needle valve and a metal seat (carb body) or at least that is what is in the carb repair kit.
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#21

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blaster 2023

Interesting, the yellow button, needle with Vitron tip and all the O-Rings are missing. I am waiting for the replacement carb.
Thank you.


#22

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blaster 2023

My Chinese Carb arrived, I installed it and it started on the first pull! I couldn't believe it. I tried mowing it seemed a little low on power
but I don't hear any strange sounds.
The mowing height was set very low, I raised it and it seemed to help.
Do I need to check the flywheel key? What RPM is the engine supposed to be set. Is 30W oil ok?
How do I check compression? The front wheel drive the cable is tied on with fishing line, any way to repair the end that goes in handle?
Thank You.


#23

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blaster 2023

I have it running, starts on the first pull, Replaced the Carb, carb gaskets, fule line (it was rotten), AND removed the fuel tank and washed it, bought fresh Gas and Sta-Bil.
When I emptied the gas tank into a glass bowel I had pieces of rubber hose, water and dirt.
What RPM is this motor set at?
Thank You.


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