Kabota Kommander

[ILENGINE]

determine if the larger deck will help you or hurt you. If you have alot to mow around, a larger deck sometimes can actually increase your mowing time.

 

[KluLess]

I'm going to the shop tomorrow to look at the Kabota. Before I go, are there other mowers in the $5k range (54") that I should look at too? I think in pretty well set on the Kabota, but I don't want to overlook something. It's amazing how the price creeps up as I keep looking. I better stop doo before I hit the $10k range

 

[djdicetn]

I'm going to the shop tomorrow to look at the Kabota. Before I go, are there other mowers in the $5k range (54") that I should look at too? I think in pretty well set on the Kabota, but I don't want to overlook something. It's amazing how the price creeps up as I keep looking. I better stop doo before I hit the $10k range

Kluless,
Toro Titan ZX5420(the 2012 had approximately a $4500 MSRP). Even better than that(I almost bought one) is the Toro Titan MX5480(MSRP around $5,300). The MX has a full suspension seat, foldable ROPS, lifetime frame and 3year/400 hour warranty. I'd recommend a look at the Titan MX before pulling the trigger on the Kubota(the Kubota website has a "comparison to the Toro Titan", but I've never looked at it). Remember, "brand new models" sometimes have some bugs to be worked out.

 

[Rivets]

Have the Toros and Kubota's sitting side by side and if you compare them that way you will see that they are both good units. Djdices comment about problems with new models is unwarranted. Doesn't matter if it is a new model or model year, they all could have problems. While installing a lift assist option, I took a very close look at it and for the little bit of help it offers, I would not purchase it.

 

[KluLess]

Just got a quote for the Titan MX 4880 of $5899 that would put the 5480 well over $6K. That's really not even a comparable model with the 124E @ $4499.

 

[Duckman]

Okay, I'm an idiot. Looks like I picked the right username. My trailer has been at my inlaws house for a while and I thought it was smaller than it actually is. Turns out, it can haul the 54" ZG127 easily. Is the extra 6" cut worth $700?

Thanks for the responses. I'll be looking at the BS not the Kholer now and try to get the seat upgrade. Don't care about the lights. Can't see needing a deck lift assist unless my six year old was mowing (not happening btw).

Thanks again

GET THE UPGRADE....I love the seat. The one thing that made me get the 54" was how far the deck sticks out from the left side tire, I think it is easier to trim around edges with.

To me it is well powered/matched with the Kohler.

As far as the lift assist...that 52 deck is a muth-tha. THERE is a difference between the 48 and 52.

 

[djdicetn]

Just got a quote for the Titan MX 4880 of $5899 that would put the 5480 well over $6K. That's really not even a comparable model with the 124E @ $4499.

Kluless,
Well, I'm not a dealer or associated with a dealer like some users so I don't know the 2013 model prices(or the dealer you visited). All I can say is I was given a price of $5,300 for a 2012 Toro Titan MX5480(with the 54" deck). Either they've gone up a bunch for 2013(my Gravely went up $300 over the 2012 I bought) or the dealer just isn't budging on MSRP. You are also shopping in the season that is a "dealers market" whereas I bought mine in September just before the 2013 models came out(making it a "buyers market"). In the fall, any current year models a dealer has in stock makes him/her much more like a car dealer(NEGOTIABLE)!!! Best I can calculate, I saved $1,300 out-the-door buying a 2012 in September versus buying a 2013 this week. Just sayin......make a "counter-offer'. If the dealer is selling machines hand-over-foot right now(unlikely with the economy like it is) he won't negotiate. Otherwise, what have you got to lose(you & I both know that Toro dealer is making a "chunk of change" at $5899 for that 48"). I would have offered him $5,000 out-the-door, gave him my phone number and walked out the door. If he calls, he calls. If he don't buy something else from somebody else(like you are doing). Again, it's your money and if he wants it to be his he'll call you.

 

[KluLess]

Thanks for the advise. Like I said before, I think I was pretty well set on the Kabota. Especially after comparing models side-by-side. I ran into a lot of salesmen that were really not interested in dealing with someone asking a lot of questions and correcting them when they said the wrong thing. Can you imagine the nerve of me, actually getting informed about products before I visit the store (sarcasm). So, now I have a ZG124E with a suspension seat. I should have it in a week or so.

 

[Rivets]

Dice, if you really think I am going to make a "chunk of change" selling a unit at $5899 you don't know anything about this business. If you offered me $5000, I will make something as long as you don't ask for any options to be included.

 

[djdicetn]

Dice, if you really think I am going to make a "chunk of change" selling a unit at $5899 you don't know anything about this business. If you offered me $5000, I will make something as long as you don't ask for any options to be included.

Rivets,
So what did the dealer I bought my 2012 Gravely from for $6,800 out-the-door make on it with it having a $7199 MSRP(plus tax) "sticker price". I figured I save about $1k total(and $1,300 based upon the 2013 same model ZTR the dealer had delivered shortly thereafter). Or, in other words, is there a general cost/sale "profit margin" that dealers have regardless of brand/model? Or maybe the question should be "what is the % markup over cost"?
And do I really think you will answer either of those questions???????