John Deere ztrack 830a impossible problem to pin point here!!! Please help

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Yes all the parts have come from a JD dealer, there is no leak around that valve cover and the dealer changed the valves last week along with cylinder heads so those are new gaskets. I will have the coils checked again I mean it's free why not. Also the theory on the engine overheating and making the coil go out is not a bad idea. Do you think I should pull the oil cooler and see if it's clogged? Although I am not sure how I would find out if it's clogged or not?

I would not think it would be, but it would not hurt to blow out behind it with the air compressor.
 

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I blew it out today and when I took it off the oil only really came out of one side and the oil that was in it was solid black I tried to look through it with the shop light and couldn't but I blew through it and the air was not restricted I don't the the oil cool has any problems.
 

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I blew it out today and when I took it off the oil only really came out of one side and the oil that was in it was solid black I tried to look through it with the shop light and couldn't but I blew through it and the air was not restricted I don't the the oil cool has any problems.

Really well now that is another issue then, you just changed the oil so that means the oil is not circulating through the cooler if the oil in the cooler is black.
How does the oil look now in the machine when you check it?
 

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It was pitch black and super thick but the mower burns oil I'm loosing over a quart a day if I change the oil within the day it turns black 2 weeks ago when the valves and heads where changed it had 93% leak down
 

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In the machine it's black but I can't tell how thick
 

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It was pitch black and super thick but the mower burns oil I'm loosing over a quart a day if I change the oil within the day it turns black 2 weeks ago when the valves and heads where changed it had 93% leak down

Holy shat man, it is time for a new engine.
You have a nice mower to use and since it is state owned, the state needs to replace the engine and get that machine back to working top notch.
 

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We have nooo money right now our year ends this month next month is the new year and we are suppose to be getting 30k from the state high way for equitment and there is talk about buying two new ztrack 950s to replace them I just have to make this one work till then but even so it's unsure we will get new ones but these are at the end of there lives this one on top of the motor issues it also has weak hydraulic pumps they are stiff and wine and the other mower has gone through 12 deck belts and 4 drive belts in the last 30 days and the engine KNOCKS lol that one has 2800 hours though it's stupid I am beond frustrated with these machines I guess the last guys never changed the oil and treated them like crap it really shows
 

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We have nooo money right now our year ends this month next month is the new year and we are suppose to be getting 30k from the state high way for equitment and there is talk about buying two new ztrack 950s to replace them I just have to make this one work till then but even so it's unsure we will get new ones but these are at the end of there lives this one on top of the motor issues it also has weak hydraulic pumps they are stiff and wine and the other mower has gone through 12 deck belts and 4 drive belts in the last 30 days and the engine KNOCKS lol that one has 2800 hours though it's stupid I am beond frustrated with these machines I guess the last guys never changed the oil and treated them like crap it really shows

I was going to ask from reading what you have typed where they even serviced halfway to correctly, tranny fluid ever changed?
Tell the guy ordering to get the 970R if they are going 72" deck or if a 60" deck get the 960R, the 950R might be a little weak for the 72" deck.
I have the 960R with the 60" deck and it has all kinds of power and torque.

Anyway sounds like you might just have to mow and let it cool and make it last another month.
 

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The 950 is $9800 or something and the 960 is like 12 and then the 970 goes up to like 17k that's why they are going with the 950 because they can get two of then for 20k, it's the state man they are cheap I have to buy weed eater line from freaking walmart lol
 

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  • / John Deere ztrack 830a impossible problem to pin point here!!! Please help
Without complicating things too much...wow, the machine may be tired, but I'm having trouble with a good leak down and oil blackening in a short time. Sure sounds like a lot of blowby contamination of the oil. There are dyes at auto parts places ($ unknown) that could be used to trace oil thru the cooler, but an oil change should also do the trick to see if oil is circulating thru the cooler. (Before it blackens). Also sounds like there is some engineering in your machine which should include an oil bypass (or oil thermostat) which allows the oil to reach operating temp before routing thru the cooler? Should sit below the cooler and may be pure mechanical (no electrical connections). I'm guessing . Also the free coil test is good, but if a bad batch of coils is in the pipeline which fail hot it is doubtful the dealer tester can detect it. Oh, and an infra red gun could make things simpler to check flow thru cooler . Keep checking the line and cooler, both sides vs engine temp.
 
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