John deere 214 sputtering

logan01

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whatever the setting is for the points I would do that initially. They can be tweaked though I don't think that'll solve the problem. Coils can break down over time. Normally this is discovered at higher rpms and/or wide open throttle. Especially as they heat up/get hot.
 

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It has died out on me a couple times after getting hot. What I've read from other forums, that can be a sign of a bad coil. It doesn't look to be in the best shape and the connections look pretty dirty and corroded. So i think I'll try replacing it and the plug wire and see what happens. If it still misses and backfires(fingers crossed) then i guess I'll recheck the points, and then I'll be back to the drawing board to try and figure out the next possible cause.

If the coil is weak would it cause it to miss?
 

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what are some symptoms of a bad or weak coil?

Can i use any new ignition coil or would it be best to use a kohler one?
 

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One thing is hard starting when cold, could cause a miss (coil firing every now and then) and when it gets hot engine will just shut down like you turned key off.

With your description I would suspect coil being bad.

Do you have any old car or tractor with 12 volt system that has a coil, if so try it before you buy a new one.

You can use coil from parts store with no problem.
 
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Ok thanks I'm just really hoping that the coil will be the problem. It does sound like it would be the problem to me, i was just unsure if a weak coil would cause it to miss and/or backfire or not. Thanks for the advice.
 

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Not sure about interchangeability of coils. If they fit the seat and hold down screws line up that's a start. But the swipe of the magnet and the pick up might be specific to the shoe form and pulse too early or late??
 

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I've had good luck changing coils with one from parts store on Kohler K series, you can take old one and they can match size to what you have, just need to make sure if it's a 12v system to get 12v coil.

Back in 1980 I had a Ford 125 with K 301 in it, coil went out while I was using rototiller, I had just changed my B model Alice Chalmers tractor to 12 volt so I went and got that coil and put on Kohler and finished the garden :cool:
 

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Another suggestion--check the valve lash.

If the intake valve is not seating, at low rpm it can cause the engine to backfire because exhaust gas can get pushed into the intake manifold where a nice, combustible fuel/air mixture resides. Most noticeable at low rpm.

Burned valve can do the same thing.
 
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