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JD D105 My JD d105 has a lose or floppy clutch pedal
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My JD d105 has a lose or floppy clutch pedal ! At first it was stuck in reverse so I ran a Google search that told me a few things but in the end it took me here so I am new member ! I did the adjustment with shift lever beside the seat that got it out of reverse and I re-adjusted it but it still did not want to shift easy . This is when I seen the foot pedal trying to move so I use my heel to pull it up toward me and doing this it will shift without any problem ! Is there something that maybe missing like a spring someplace that holds the linkage tight ?
Thank U for ur help and comments :smile:
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Thank U for ur help and comments :smile:
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I have worked at a dealership since 1998, and these transmissions are definitely nothing to brag about. Deere has alot of bulletins out on them.
They should have stuck to the 5 speed transmission they used to have, in my opinion.
I am going to attach two bulletins which seem relevent to your situation.
The most common issue I have run into is debris laying on top of the transmission interferes with the external linkage that works the variators.
Unfortunately, the easiest way to check these out is to remove the transmission from the tractor.
**If you take the mower deck off and use an inspection mirror and shop light, you may be able to check out the top of the transmission without having to remove it.
Use compressed air and blow any debris you can see off the top of the transmission. If that doesn't work, it may have to be removed to further investigate.
Take a look at those bulletins, and if you're uneasy about removing the transmission, you may want to take it to the dealer rather than the local shop because the dealer has access to all the bulletins and will be able to fix it right.
I am a DIY guy and am all about helping people help themselves, but this transmission is a unique animal, and if properly diagnosed, they usually can be repaired.
View attachment D105_sol_96626.pdf
View attachment D105_sol_95937.pdf
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My JD d105 has a lose or floppy clutch pedal ! At first it was stuck in reverse so I ran a Google search that told me a few things but in the end it took me here so I am new member ! I did the adjustment with shift lever beside the seat that got it out of reverse and I re-adjusted it but it still did not want to shift easy . This is when I seen the foot pedal trying to move so I use my heel to pull it up toward me and doing this it will shift without any problem ! Is there something that maybe missing like a spring someplace that holds the linkage tight ?
Thank U for ur help and comments :smile:
I have worked at a dealership since 1998, and these transmissions are definitely nothing to brag about. Deere has alot of bulletins out on them.
They should have stuck to the 5 speed transmission they used to have, in my opinion.
I am going to attach two bulletins which seem relevent to your situation.
The most common issue I have run into is debris laying on top of the transmission interferes with the external linkage that works the variators.
Unfortunately, the easiest way to check these out is to remove the transmission from the tractor.
**If you take the mower deck off and use an inspection mirror and shop light, you may be able to check out the top of the transmission without having to remove it.
Use compressed air and blow any debris you can see off the top of the transmission. If that doesn't work, it may have to be removed to further investigate.
Take a look at those bulletins, and if you're uneasy about removing the transmission, you may want to take it to the dealer rather than the local shop because the dealer has access to all the bulletins and will be able to fix it right.
I am a DIY guy and am all about helping people help themselves, but this transmission is a unique animal, and if properly diagnosed, they usually can be repaired.
View attachment D105_sol_96626.pdf
View attachment D105_sol_95937.pdf
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Thank U Will1988 I will check to be sure but as of right now it runs and shifts fine as long as u take and pull the clutch pedal up ! I don't have one to compare it too as if this has always been like this . I don't use this mower only my wife it is her mom's and she is a quair bird lol . So for now I will check this and get back to u about it ! Thank u again for ur help :smile:
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Thank U Will1988 I will check to be sure but as of right now it runs and shifts fine as long as u take and pull the clutch pedal up ! I don't have one to compare it too as if this has always been like this . I don't use this mower only my wife it is her mom's and she is a quair bird lol . So for now I will check this and get back to u about it ! Thank u again for ur help :smile:
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OK I made a video I hope the link works !
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tPYbz2j3xF4Qe7J4A
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Thank U Will1988 I will check to be sure but as of right now it runs and shifts fine as long as u take and pull the clutch pedal up ! I don't have one to compare it too as if this has always been like this . I don't use this mower only my wife it is her mom's and she is a quair bird lol . So for now I will check this and get back to u about it ! Thank u again for ur help :smile:
OK I made a video I hope the link works !
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tPYbz2j3xF4Qe7J4A
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Excellent video! Thanks for sticking the camera over top the transmission as that is what I was hoping to see. I noticed there is a stick in there that may be interfering with the linkage that goes back to the primary variator. The linkage pushes up on the variator and if something gets stuck in there, it will hold the variator partially engaged and create the problem you are having. I also noticed that the belt was riding pretty deep in your secondary variator(the front one) than I think it should be for being in neutral. So something is keeping the variators partially engaged which is creating the slop in your pedal. What you are doing is manually returning the pedal to neutral so the shift linkage will move. The linkage is made so you cant shift it unless the pedal is all the way up. Take a closer look at the linkage going back to your rear variator and remove the stick you see in the video and let me know how you make out. If still having problems, Can you show a video up under the back of the transmission showing the action of the rear variator? The first pic below is a snapshot from your video showing the stick. I am also attaching some pics from a google search that you can use to compare to yours.
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Excellent video! Thanks for sticking the camera over top the transmission as that is what I was hoping to see. I noticed there is a stick in there that may be interfering with the linkage that goes back to the primary variator. The linkage pushes up on the variator and if something gets stuck in there, it will hold the variator partially engaged and create the problem you are having. I also noticed that the belt was riding pretty deep in your secondary variator(the front one) than I think it should be for being in neutral. So something is keeping the variators partially engaged which is creating the slop in your pedal. What you are doing is manually returning the pedal to neutral so the shift linkage will move. The linkage is made so you cant shift it unless the pedal is all the way up. Take a closer look at the linkage going back to your rear variator and remove the stick you see in the video and let me know how you make out. If still having problems, Can you show a video up under the back of the transmission showing the action of the rear variator? The first pic below is a snapshot from your video showing the stick. I am also attaching some pics from a google search that you can use to compare to yours.
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OK I see where u mean ! It is just below the belt . I thought I had taken more pics but after reviewing them I deleted about 5 or 6 they were so blurry ! I will remove that debri and see about maybe another short video and try to turn phone at other angles maybe it will help pick up better that way ! I got long day tomorrow lots to do but I will try to get that 1st thing after I have coffee
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I have updated the folder with 8 pics and 2 videos . I turned it over on it;s side and washed it out again cause I found more crude under parts of it and I pulled the pieces out u mentioned . Video not much help but in one I shifted from forward to N to reveres so u can see the engagement alignment . This still is not helping to find out why the pedal will not return to full top and allow u to shift without using the heel to pull it up . I can only think to drill a hole thru the linkage rod and on frame and fix it with a big spring ! JD is like a Ford to keep them running U need to have close pins , duck tape , bailing wire and a sledge hammer . :laughing: Just go back and click the link I previously sent .OK I see where u mean ! It is just below the belt . I thought I had taken more pics but after reviewing them I deleted about 5 or 6 they were so blurry ! I will remove that debri and see about maybe another short video and try to turn phone at other angles maybe it will help pick up better that way ! I got long day tomorrow lots to do but I will try to get that 1st thing after I have coffee
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Good morning, I viewed your pics and the video and the top of the transmission looks very clean now!
I have searched Deere's bulletins and am attaching some info below for you to check.
Attachment #1 shows the primary(rear) variator.
The transmission was removed for the picture, but if you look under the back of your transmission from the bottom, you should be able to locate this area.
Let's make sure something isn't stuck in that linkage or that the variator isn't damaged.
I have also included a diagram that has the transmission components numbered.
Take a look and let me know if that helps at all.
The rear variator linkage is what returns the pedal to neutral. So something has to be holding it from returning to it's home position.
The only other thing I can think of without physically being in front of the machine, is the torsion spring at the pedal.
On the diagram, it is #7 on the last attachment. Take a look at that as well.
We may have had a combination of debris on the transmission and that spring may have broken. I don't have one these units here at the shop currently to compare to.
So I dont know how stiff that spring may be or if it has enough power to return the pedal to neutral.
I've never seen one break yet, but it is possible that yours is broken.
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I have updated the folder with 8 pics and 2 videos . I turned it over on it;s side and washed it out again cause I found more crude under parts of it and I pulled the pieces out u mentioned . Video not much help but in one I shifted from forward to N to reveres so u can see the engagement alignment . This still is not helping to find out why the pedal will not return to full top and allow u to shift without using the heel to pull it up . I can only think to drill a hole thru the linkage rod and on frame and fix it with a big spring ! JD is like a Ford to keep them running U need to have close pins , duck tape , bailing wire and a sledge hammer . :laughing: Just go back and click the link I previously sent .
Good morning, I viewed your pics and the video and the top of the transmission looks very clean now!
I have searched Deere's bulletins and am attaching some info below for you to check.
Attachment #1 shows the primary(rear) variator.
The transmission was removed for the picture, but if you look under the back of your transmission from the bottom, you should be able to locate this area.
Let's make sure something isn't stuck in that linkage or that the variator isn't damaged.
I have also included a diagram that has the transmission components numbered.
Take a look and let me know if that helps at all.
The rear variator linkage is what returns the pedal to neutral. So something has to be holding it from returning to it's home position.
The only other thing I can think of without physically being in front of the machine, is the torsion spring at the pedal.
On the diagram, it is #7 on the last attachment. Take a look at that as well.
We may have had a combination of debris on the transmission and that spring may have broken. I don't have one these units here at the shop currently to compare to.
So I dont know how stiff that spring may be or if it has enough power to return the pedal to neutral.
I've never seen one break yet, but it is possible that yours is broken.
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THAT GOT IT :biggrin: Thank U Will ! That last set of pics helped me to understand where I needed to look ! Dude there was a chunk of wood jammed so tight I had to pick it out in pieces til I got most of it lose ! OK I added new file folder so U can have fun looking and I hope that this thread may help others as well ! See attached link !
Many Times Thank U Will1988 :smile:
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/uAR21XHWRWrrKpA66
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THAT GOT IT :biggrin: Thank U Will ! That last set of pics helped me to understand where I needed to look ! Dude there was a chunk of wood jammed so tight I had to pick it out in pieces til I got most of it lose ! OK I added new file folder so U can have fun looking and I hope that this thread may help others as well ! See attached link !
Many Times Thank U Will1988 :smile:
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You're welcome! It is hard to believe that little piece could cause so much trouble! I'm glad you got it fixed!
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THAT GOT IT :biggrin: Thank U Will ! That last set of pics helped me to understand where I needed to look ! Dude there was a chunk of wood jammed so tight I had to pick it out in pieces til I got most of it lose ! OK I added new file folder so U can have fun looking and I hope that this thread may help others as well ! See attached link !
Many Times Thank U Will1988 :smile:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/uAR21XHWRWrrKpA66
You're welcome! It is hard to believe that little piece could cause so much trouble! I'm glad you got it fixed!