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I currently have a Toro Recycler 163cc. I have been struggling getting my lawn mowed with it. I have a new house and the lawn is very thick and causes the blades to get caught and the engine stops. I have been heavily considering getting an EGO lawn mower. Does anyone know if there is a EGO model that is more powerful than my 163cc engine?

Thank you!

I can’t recommend an electric mower.

if your grass is thick enough to choke a petrol mower and your blades are sharp then switching to an electric mower will be a disaster because every time you stall the motor it draws a massive amount of current which causes it to overheat .

One of my neighbors just switch from Ryobi battery, to gas Toro.

bogdaN said:

One of my neighbors just switch from Ryobi battery, to gas Toro.

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I would check out how the Toro is running, ie: tune up, check RPMs, etc. No reason it should not be able to cut grass effectively unless you are cutting waist high grass.
Battery mowers are for Grandma, West Coast liberals, and hypocrites who think they are saving the planet.

I briefly owned a new but unimpressive Toro Recycler.

I have happily used an EGo 21" SP since 2016. No other poster on this thread has used an electric.

You are not going to shave your thick grass with any mower if the grass is very tall. The solution is to knock an inch or two off at a time, wait a day, repeat.

I think EGo's claim to be equal to gas is a stretch. 5HP perhaps. It is enough to get the job done if one doesn't wait until it is too late to mow. Then put the wheels on high and do what you can.

The EGo runs at 2 speeds, at it's discretion. This makes it easy to know if you are heavily loading the motor. You are not going to hurt the motor, software will shut down if need be. If you hit a tree stump.

A nice feature is how the SP drive is a separate motor. Doesn't depend on blade speed, doesn't depend on the blade running at all. I do not like the new design with a knurled collar in the middle of the handle for controlling speed. The old design with a lever is much easier to set to a known speed. The blade safety interlock buttons embedded in the handle are also a nuisance. A grab bar is much easier to manage.

Was fascinated by the bagging option. The EGo does not have have high suction, little turbulence. Grass blades were laid neatly in a row in the bag. If mulching then one should cut more often.

The mower is quiet enough not to need ear protection. Very light weight too. I never had problems with the plastic deck.

If the motor stays out of high speed you will get about an hour on a 7.5Ah battery. Think it would be a waste to have a model which holds 2 batteries. Takes seconds to swap so why not keep one on charger rather than have to push it around for an hour?

I sold my EGO and bought a 2012 Recycler in decent shape. The Toro walks all over the EGO.
I was never happy with the EGO, and I tried everything.

olds394 said:

I sold my EGO and bought a 2012 Recycler in decent shape. The Toro walks all over the EGO.
I was never happy with the EGO, and I tried everything.

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I find it interesting when people try to sell others on battery powered outdoor power equipment. Battery has its place, just in many cases gas is the way to go. I once has a Toro Personal Pace self-propelled mower in 2004, and literally cut down grass that was head high. Try that with a battery mower. Anyway, college football starts today, and my focus is on that. Will be going to Equipment Expo in Louisville, Kentucky October 17-21st, and will see enough battery powered OPE to make me throw up.

Friend of mine had an EGO and was always complaining about cutting his grass. I recommended a Honda self propelled and he took my advice. The EGO lost significant battery power over his ownership and it would have a hard time getting the job done. The Honda (they don't make them anymore ) had no such issue. When he moved to a new place, he sold his Honda and got a Scag Zero Turn and never looked back LOL

In EGOs defense my yard is very uneven. The Toro doesn’t care.

MParr said:

I can’t recommend an electric mower.

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Yeah, especially since gas lawns mowers don't actually hurt the environment!

I have never done the maths covering the embedded polution in an electic mower as comparred to a petrol mower
For EV's it is very much a function of he battery size but at the low end they come in at around 30 to 40 times the embeded polution of a petrol vehicle , we used a 6 cylinder for the calcs because when it was done 6 cylinders were the most popular engine type but now days it will probably be a V 8
When you get to things like SUV's with the biggest battery they can go into triple figures so you hae have to drive them for a million miles to get the the same starting point as a petrol car .

bertsmobile1 said:

I have never done the maths covering the embedded polution in an electic mower as comparred to a petrol mower
For EV's it is very much a function of he battery size but at the low end they come in at around 30 to 40 times the embeded polution of a petrol vehicle , we used a 6 cylinder for the calcs because when it was done 6 cylinders were the most popular engine type but now days it will probably be a V 8
When you get to things like SUV's with the biggest battery they can go into triple figures so you hae have to drive them for a million miles to get the the same starting point as a petrol car .

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When it comes to battery versus gas, whether it be a trimmer or a Tesla 18 wheeler truck, people often don’t consider all the points and impacts of environmental issues, costs, and real life function. Do some reading online and it will open your eyes. Obviously not a battery fan here.

KM Richards said:

Yeah, especially since gas lawns mowers don't actually hurt the environment!
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Especially since, electric lawn mowers don’t hurt the environment. Because, they are really powered by coal, natural gas, diesel, or nuclear.

Tiger Small Engine said:

When it comes to battery versus gas, whether it be a trimmer or a Tesla 18 wheeler truck, people often don’t consider all the points and impacts of environmental issues, costs, and real life function. Do some reading online and it will open your eyes. Obviously not a battery fan here.

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I have nothing against anything that is battery powered
I do have problems with them being sold under the BS premise that they are less polluting
Buy one because it is convienent for you no worries but battery powered stuff comes with a massive environmental cost before it comes out of the box

When I comes to cars, great idea and I will que up to buy one, the same day a suitable battery is invented .
Li shoulld never be used on anything that requires more than a few milli watts of power
So watches, fine, lap tops OK, phones sure thing , torches great , drills, saw , mowers , bikes not so good and cars bad idea
And I could find 1400 people who parked their car at Lutton airport who will agree 100% after that hybrid Land Rover SUV burned the whole place down , including doing £ 20,000 of damage to the car park which will need to be demolished .
Should make an interesting insurance claim .

Then there are the children forced to work in the cobalt mines run by terrorist militas in the DRC and despite the green blue washing of Apple , Nokia , Tesla , De Walt etc etc etc the DRC supplies 80 % of the worlds cobalt and the "good mines" only account for around 1/3 the rest is controlled by warlords & terrorists so all of them can not be using "clean Green" cobalt . Then there are the graphite mines , residents are still suing for damages . I could go on & on .
The pollution generated by Li mining is on an astronomically toxic and large level .

Forcing car companies to manufacture cars that have a 20 year service life will do a lot more to reduce pollution than replacing every car on the planet with an EV

bertsmobile1 said:

I have nothing against anything that is battery powered
I do have problems with them being sold under the BS premise that they are less polluting
Buy one because it is convienent for you no worries but battery powered stuff comes with a massive environmental cost before it comes out of the box

When I comes to cars, great idea and I will que up to buy one, the same day a suitable battery is invented .
Li shoulld never be used on anything that requires more than a few milli watts of power
So watches, fine, lap tops OK, phones sure thing , torches great , drills, saw , mowers , bikes not so good and cars bad idea
And I could find 1400 people who parked their car at Lutton airport who will agree 100% after that hybrid Land Rover SUV burned the whole place down , including doing £ 20,000 of damage to the car park which will need to be demolished .
Should make an interesting insurance claim .

Then there are the children forced to work in the cobalt mines run by terrorist militas in the DRC and despite the green blue washing of Apple , Nokia , Tesla , De Walt etc etc etc the DRC supplies 80 % of the worlds cobalt and the "good mines" only account for around 1/3 the rest is controlled by warlords & terrorists so all of them can not be using "clean Green" cobalt . Then there are the graphite mines , residents are still suing for damages . I could go on & on .
The pollution generated by Li mining is on an astronomically toxic and large level .

Forcing car companies to manufacture cars that have a 20 year service life will do a lot more to reduce pollution than replacing every car on the planet with an EV

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The negative environmental impact on good old planet earth due to mining for necessary materials has been, and will continue to be massive. The irony of the “green people “ helping the planet by using batteries really bothers me.

Manufacturing these products that are powered by batteries still takes fossil fuels to produce and the raw materials such as plastic, metal, etc. are just like in gas equipment. So when you throw away the “green product” into the landfill, you aren’t helping the planet.

The fact that the U.S. government and media are pushing battery equipment and vehicles down our throats, really pisses me off. If a product or service is superior to the competition, let the free market allow the natural benefits to play out. Not banning blowers, or forcing regulations, or subsidizing purchases (like electric cars) to help offset increased costs. Remember, when the government subsidies an electric vehicle by say $7000 as an incentive to buy it over gas, that money is paid for the taxpayer.

Just returned from the Equipment Expo in Louisville, Kentucky (largest outdoor power equipment trade show in the world), and there was more battery equipment on display than you could shake a stick at. Battery is here to stay, I just want people to be aware of the pros, cons, and consequences. I personally, will stick with gas, forever.

bjacobs222 said:

I currently have a Toro Recycler 163cc. I have been struggling getting my lawn mowed with it. I have a new house and the lawn is very thick and causes the blades to get caught and the engine stops. I have been heavily considering getting an EGO lawn mower. Does anyone know if there is a EGO model that is more powerful than my 163cc engine?

Thank you!

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If you don't discharge the grass, ANY mower will bog down and die. Use the bag or get the discharge chute. That will solve your problem.
As posted by others - electric won't solve your problem.

Tiger Small Engine said:

Just returned from the Equipment Expo in Louisville, Kentucky (largest outdoor power equipment trade show in the world), and there was more battery equipment on display than you could shake a stick at. Battery is here to stay, I just want people to be aware of the pros, cons, and consequences. I personally, will stick with gas, forever.

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They happened to have Hustler, Cub Cadet, etc on display at a convention at the hotel I was at the other day. I mean Hustler?? Your lawn business must only cut 2 yards a day, right??? Or do u carry around 10 sets of batteries?

ps. recent post home user trimmer battery went bad.... after only 2 years of home use. How many $1000's are cali lawn guys going to spend every year on new batteries to be able to work a full day business??

Why catch the grass anyway?

It's better for the soil to put the clippings back in to the ground.

Tiger Small Engine said:

The negative environmental impact on good old planet earth due to mining for necessary materials has been, and will continue to be massive. The irony of the “green people “ helping the planet by using batteries really bothers me.

Manufacturing these products that are powered by batteries still takes fossil fuels to produce and the raw materials such as plastic, metal, etc. are just like in gas equipment. So when you throw away the “green product” into the landfill, you aren’t helping the planet.

The fact that the U.S. government and media are pushing battery equipment and vehicles down our throats, really pisses me off. If a product or service is superior to the competition, let the free market allow the natural benefits to play out. Not banning blowers, or forcing regulations, or subsidizing purchases (like electric cars) to help offset increased costs. Remember, when the government subsidies an electric vehicle by say $7000 as an incentive to buy it over gas, that money is paid for the taxpayer.

Just returned from the Equipment Expo in Louisville, Kentucky (largest outdoor power equipment trade show in the world), and there was more battery equipment on display than you could shake a stick at. Battery is here to stay, I just want people to be aware of the pros, cons, and consequences. I personally, will stick with gas, forever.

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I hope you kept your distance from the self immolating De-Walt battey ZTR