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I replace the carburetor on my HR 215 when I try to start it it only runs on high RPMs

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Tvandame

I have a Honda HR 215. I rebuilt the carburetor, and when I go to start it, it only runs on high high RPMs.


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Forest#2

You need to flog the carb again, most likely.

Sometimes about the only thing that is reasonable priced about a Honda engine is a replacement carb. (at less than $20 with free shipping.


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Tvandame

What do you mean by, flog the carb again? I tore apart a lot of carburetors and we built them for the last 40 years and never heard of that term or had this issue.


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slomo

If the OEM Honda carbs are only 20 bucks, I wouldn't waste time cleaning them if that is true.


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catbob

check your linkage from the carb to the governor arm, might be binding or in the wrong holes on the carb


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Tvandame

The linkage only goes in one spot and there is only one hole for the spring.When the engine is at rest and stop, does the throttle go to wide open?


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Forest#2

You asked:.When the engine is at rest and stop, does the throttle go to wide open?

Yes.

and with the engine not running:
feel of the governor arm or throttle and You normally can move it towards idle but it will be spring loaded and move back to open throttle when you turn it loose.
Also after you start the engine the governor should move the throttle towards lower rpms and you should be able to pull the carb governor arm back towards idle.
If you loosened the governor arm clamp or moved the governor arm when you removed/installed the carb you need to check the governor static adjust procedure.
Do you know if the engine governor was OK BEFORE you removed the carb????(or is this a new to you engine)


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Tvandame

Last year when I change oil and ran the car by the gas, it was surging so I figured the carbon need to be changed or repaired. I pulled it out this year and just pulled the carpet part. Put it back together. Last year it ran at low speed, but it surged a lot. I rebuilt the car cleaned everything out three times and it just runs at high speed when I put it back together


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Tvandame

Not the car, the carburetor


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Tvandame

I don’t know if my reply went through. Last fall when I change the oil and winterized it, it was just surging. The spring I just took the carb off rebuilt it put it back on.


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Forest#2

Have you thought about replacing the carb.

In your previous replies it seemed that you indicated that the engine was stuck/hung at wide open throttle due to no governor control. Some of the Honda powered push lawn mowers do not have a throttle control cable for the operator the engine just runs by governor control.
Are you indicating that the engine is over speeding due to no governor control? (or the throttle butterfly is stuck open on the carb)

You may have to use the vin# to find the correct carb.
Also you might look at some You tube videos of how to clean/repair a HR215 carb


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Tvandame

The only thing I did was take the carburetor off, remove the throttle, linkage and spring, which are attached to the governor arm and the choke linkage. Nothing was bent that I could tell when removed. Hypothetically, could’ve governor inside the Block be bad?


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Forest#2

Not likely, if it was ok before you fooled with just the carb.
Can you see the throttle lever or the governor arm?
If so CAREFULLY WITHOUT FORCE manually operate either and see if the throttle will go to idle.
If stuck in wide open and not moving easily remove the carb and check the carb throttle butterfly inside the carb throat. Some of them butterflys just push into a slot in the plastic shaft and can get out of place and the throttle and the shaft becomes jammed/stuck and the shaft not move freely or if you removed the carb butterfly they usually have to be re-installed/re-inserted the same way they were removed by doing so carefully and then checking for proper throttle shaft operation BEFORE THE CARB IS RE-INSTALLED.


Search on-line for how to do a static governor adjust also if the above checks ok.


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Tvandame

Forest#2 said:
Not likely, if it was ok before you fooled with just the carb.
Can you see the throttle lever or the governor arm?
If so CAREFULLY WITHOUT FORCE manually operate either and see if the throttle will go to idle.
If stuck in wide open and not moving easily remove the carb and check the carb throttle butterfly inside the carb throat. Some of them butterflys just push into a slot in the plastic shaft and can get out of place and the throttle and the shaft becomes jammed/stuck and the shaft not move freely or if you removed the carb butterfly they usually have to be re-installed/re-inserted the same way they were removed by doing so carefully and then checking for proper throttle shaft operation BEFORE THE CARB IS RE-INSTALLED.


Search on-line for how to do a static governor adjust also if the above checks ok.
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Tvandame

OK I broke down and I bought a carburetor. I reset the static on the governor put it all back together. Started it up runs great. I cannot believe that cleaning a carburetor does that. But I want to thank you guys for all your help. It runs great. I can’t believe $15 fixes it. Again thank you very very very much for all your help guys.


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tadawson

Surging, I have found, is almost always the pilot jet.


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Tvandame

Does anyone on here work on Honda generators?


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Forest#2

You asked:
Does anyone on here work on Honda generators?

What is the model and the issue??


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Tvandame

Igen2000 it surges at idle and at high speed. Have cleaned the low speed ports out still does it. A new car is 196 bucks the ones they sell online for 30 or $41 don’t have the correct plug to plug into the circuitboard for the generator.


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StarTech

I think you need read and correct post # 8. As if you pull the carpet apart the wife is going to kill you.


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CurlyMJM

this will happen if the carb gaskets are not put on in the correct orientation, learned this the hard way...


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