I agree with what this guy said when he said (I talked to them about my concerns when they first started building the low-end equipment and introduced BigDog (another mower brand), the dealer shares. Anytime any company starts integrating cheap equipment into their commercial stuff, it's a sign. I saw the same thing with Snapper.) I think the only thing there doing is hurting themselves by producing the low end stuff. same as John Deere, Echo and Cub Cadet did, look at there reputation.
Hustler will probably lose some dealers over selling them at Lowes and Home Depot. Who wants to be dealer of a product when a customer can buy it cheaper at the retail store?
Well toro still has dealers... Home depot only has like 3 models of push mower and 2 tractors vs the dealer who usually has the whole line + all commercial equipment. Hustler just like toro has a massive commercial following and will not lose those sales. All they are doing is spreading the market they probably will need to be built cheap people are not .going to lowes to spend 5000 plus dollars they go there to buy the cheapest best quality they can without pissing off the wife. I think its a great business move.
Completely disagree. Not all consumers know that the there be difference in quality and what the dealer has compared to the retail store. Customer #1 just bought it Lowes and home depot and doesnt care about the high priced dealer. Customer #1 2-4 years later needs parts. He goes to Lowes and Home depot finds the parts he needs to fix it himself. Again the high priced dealer screwed out of sale of new mower plus parts sale. It might be 5-10 years before customer #1 visits hustler dealer to parts or service that Lowes and Home depot doesnt have and offer.
...I think the only thing there doing is hurting themselves by producing the low end stuff. same as John Deere, Echo and Cub Cadet did, look at there reputation.
Completely disagree. Not all consumers know that the there be difference in quality and what the dealer has compared to the retail store. Customer #1 just bought it Lowes and home depot and doesnt care about the high priced dealer. Customer #1 2-4 years later needs parts. He goes to Lowes and Home depot finds the parts he needs to fix it himself. Again the high priced dealer screwed out of sale of new mower plus parts sale. It might be 5-10 years before customer #1 visits hustler dealer to parts or service that Lowes and Home depot doesnt have and offer.
And as a dealer you have a commercial or very well heeled residential customer base you are used to dealing with and now joe average comes in with his cheap husky and wants repairs NOW. You didn't make the $$$ on the sale. He is going back to a box store for his blades, belts and only comes to you when he has to or to try to get it free under warranty, this is a customer you want ??
There was one dealer, not sure the brand that charged a residential customer a "registration" fee ($30??) before he'd perform warranty work since he hadn't bought the machine from him. That was a hotly discussed topic. The owner of the machine complained to the manufacturer and was told the manufacturer didn't have control over the dealers as they were independent owners.
The way Ariens came out with SnoTec as a less expensive entry consumer model so should Husky. Nothing wrong with going for a wider market and having a wider spread of price points but you want to make sure to differentiate your premium product. Toro has residential and commercial they just didn't separate the brand. In today's market I think it makes more sense to put a separate name in there for the entry level stuff but to still make a good product to protect your name. Toro didn't but they evolved in a different era and they've managed to keep both the residential and commercial quality respectable.
I just signed with Hustler....my first mowers arrive tomorrow. I'm not pleased. I see the whole moving units makes the company money, but wh not use the Big Dog models?
Because Hustler is a more prominent brand. I mean would you rather own a Ford Taurus or a BMW 1 series?
I just signed with Hustler....my first mowers arrive tomorrow. I'm not pleased. I see the whole moving units makes the company money, but wh not use the Big Dog models?
Because Hustler is a more prominent brand. I mean would you rather own a Ford Taurus or a BMW 1 series?
You seriously think the big box buyer knows that? They all think a Husqy 455 is a full commercial chainsaw...
Because Hustler is a more prominent brand. I mean would you rather own a Ford Taurus or a BMW 1 series?
Depends on who is making the payments, paying the insurance and having to do the repairs. :tongue:
What we are talking about is same brand different name. More like do you want to go to the Dealer and buy a Mercury Sable or go to Home Depot and get the less expensive Ford Taurus. With Ariens they go with SnoTek by Ariens so they tie the Ariens name in there but you know it's a Sno Tek and not a full blow more expensive orange Ariens.
I do think the "average" guy does do some research before he drops the $$$ on a new machine and word of mouth makes a difference too. The trick is where does he go for that info and what info does he find. Like above with the chainsaw, he's seen husqy and people talking about then being professional grade and thinks the expensive saw is professional. Expensive at the box store that is. He likely didn't see the $1,000 plus saws as that isn't what he was researching. There is so much marketing hype out there it's hard to cut through it as every manufacturer wants to call their cheapest crap the best they can, it's marketing. I'm sure Hustler is going to try and market the stuff at the box store as being professional grade or close to it.
Honda, Toro, and Echo all have equipment at Home Depot. That doesn't mean they can't have a good reputation.
Ask yourself a question, Why doe you visit Lowes, Home Depot, Walmart, Kmart or Target instead of say JC Pennys, Sears knowing that what they sell are seconds or low quality stuff at best. I think everyone knows theses stores don't sell quality, the sell quantity that's how they do business and the public just eats it up because the can save a few bucks at that moment when in reality it cost them more in the long run. The reason Hustler and others use HD & lowes is to sell there low end residential mowers like the Raptor to the public because they can't sell them at the dealers, I mean really when you walk into a dealer and you start looking at a ZTR like Super Z or an X1 your saying wow, so what are the chances your going to walk out the door with the Raptor??????? That's why they want them in department stores. What will happen to the Raptor will be the same as Cub Cadet's line of cheap ZTR along with some others the mowers will go away and will no longer be made because the company lost there butt on them. You think that Echo doesn't hurt there reputation selling at HD? I have two dealers within nine miles of me and the one I deal with when you walk in the front door what do you see, three and a half full walls of Stihl Chains saws, pole saws, Trimmers, edgers, hedge trimmers and blowers everything Stihl, where's the Echo stuff, it's in the back room where nobody goes and why because he can't sell the stuff because anyone who wants the Echo stuff goes to HD even though he sells if for the same price. So tell me about hurting themselves or there Reputation, What type of Reputation do they get when a gut walks into a dealer with a Echo Trimmer to get warranty work done and they tell he has to have a sales receipt and warranty card before they'll work on it and he has neither and the sales person tells him take it back to HD where he purchased it.
If you do buy your equipment at Lowes or Home Depot why then would you take it to a dealer instead of bringing it back to where you bought it and returning or exchanging it. When I first started I had a Poulan hand held blower that I had for almost a year and took it back and exchanged it for a new one with no questions asked.
How? Did you have the recipt or box?
If you do buy your equipment at Lowes or Home Depot why then would you take it to a dealer instead of bringing it back to where you bought it and returning or exchanging it. When I first started I had a Poulan hand held blower that I had for almost a year and took it back and exchanged it for a new one with no questions asked.
I don't know about that but I do know that after 30 days they don't take anything back or exchange it here in HD or Lowes and seeing how they don't service what they sell you have a couple of different choices you can make, you can give it back for them to send out to have the work done or you can take to a dealer yourself for repair and there are some dealers that really don't like servicing something they haven't sold.
I guess that's where I got confused on taking it to a dealer for repairs instead of exchanging it. Here you can take just about anything back and exchange it and let them worry about getting it fixed. When they do get it fixed they have a used and refurbished section that they will put it in.
Yeah they have a refurbished section here but you only have the thirty days to return or exchange an item then they get it fixed and it will show up in the refurbished section. What people need to do if they want to buy lawn equipment or anything else for that fact from the big box stores is fill out there warranty cards that come with the equipment and get the stuff registered with the manufacturer because a lot of these dealer require a sales receipt and the warranty card to work on equipment purchased from HD or one of those places and there are some dealers who just wont work on the stuff period.
My wife has the same style of thinking about rules and store policies. I recently bought a pair of Red Wing Boots from one of their dealers. And these boots had thirty days to be returned. About 90 days later and in worn condition they reluctantly took the boots back. Also when I went to buy my BR600 magnum from my local Stihl dealer they had a sign on the front that said " We will not take personal checks". So after filling out all the paperwork just for giggles when they asked how I want to pay for it I said I'm going to write a check. In which she replied we normally don't take checks but from you we will. I told her I was just kidding and paid cash. Anyway my point is just cause the store has a policy doesn't mean it's the final word.
Hustler will probably lose some dealers over selling them at Lowes and Home Depot. Who wants to be dealer of a product when a customer can buy it cheaper at the retail store?
My wife has the same style of thinking about rules and store policies. I recently bought a pair of Red Wing Boots from one of their dealers. And these boots had thirty days to be returned. About 90 days later and in worn condition they reluctantly took the boots back. Also when I went to buy my BR600 magnum from my local Stihl dealer they had a sign on the front that said " We will not take personal checks". So after filling out all the paperwork just for giggles when they asked how I want to pay for it I said I'm going to write a check. In which she replied we normally don't take checks but from you we will. I told her I was just kidding and paid cash. Anyway my point is just cause the store has a policy doesn't mean it's the final word.
I don't know about that but I do know that after 30 days they don't take anything back or exchange it here in HD or Lowes and seeing how they don't service what they sell you have a couple of different choices you can make, you can give it back for them to send out to have the work done or you can take to a dealer yourself for repair and there are some dealers that really don't like servicing something they haven't sold.
I agree with that too Mr. Ric we have a few dealers here that are reluctant to work on John Deere, etc that where not bought from the dealer. If you let HD, Lowes send it for repair work then dont be in a hurry to get it back.
When do they plan to start this partnership? I looked yesterday, and didnt see a Hustler on Lowes, or Home depot.
Here's what a dealer had to say about hustler going to Lowes and Home Depot.
Hustler Dealers Sound Off on Big Box Threat - Rural Lifestyle Dealer
I wont buy it, I only shop at dealerships plus i can get a better choice.
I'm the same as you, I wont buy from the BBS when it comes to lawn-care equipment. Like you say not only do I get a better choice at the dealer but and I can better the HD price at the dealer by as much as 10% and I have service when I need it.
As I've said I'm a new dealer. Two weeks new. I ordered Raptor & SDs three weeks ago and haven't seen them yet. Looks like I have another week to wait. F hats because they are building Lowes units before mine then it stinks. If I sell them and reorder do have to wait another month in peak selling season?