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Has anyone used one of these and do you think this is a ok deal????

ZERO TURN CUB CADET LAWNMOWER .50 INCH. 22 H.P. HAS STEERING WHEEL. 40 HOURS LIKE NEW $2500.00

Looks just like one with the two handles but has a steering wheel not sure how you could make a Y turn

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Carscw said:

Has anyone used one of these and do you think this is a ok deal????

ZERO TURN CUB CADET LAWNMOWER .50 INCH. 22 H.P. HAS STEERING WHEEL. 40 HOURS LIKE NEW $2500.00

Looks just like one with the two handles but has a steering wheel not sure how you could make a Y turn

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It's called the Z-Force S and it is a Zero Turn mower. Never used one but have seen them used. They say there a great slope mower.

• The rider features dual hydrostatic transmission that provides four wheel steering with the easy-to-use steering wheel
• Revolutionary SynchroSteer™ technology gives this zero turn rider total control on all terrain

The starting cost on the residential is I believe $3999 so $2500 would be a bad deal.

Concept is nice, but have not heard anything good about them.

carscw, unlike Sammy I have heard positive feedback about the S series, the most frequent comment is that they are very stable and easy to use but very lame in the quality of the drive, sealed 2100's? as I understand the series did not sell well at all and when I looked at them in the spring a new one could be had for under 3k so I am tempted to say that this is nothing to jump at.

I did put a deposit on the propane version but then made the big mistake of going Exmark, from the same dealer.

Depending on which Z-Force S you buy they come with the Hydro-Gear ZT 2800 or ZT3100 Transmission w/Oil Reserve & Filter or if you're like robert and buy everything on the cheap side so you can complain you can buy one at the BBS with the EZT drive. The starting price for the residential is $3999 and the commercial is $4999

Only good review I can find is it does good on hills witch is what I need but the cons cancel that out. I lot of people said they have to purge the drive every time they mow or can't go in reverse. I think I will pass on this. I have been happy with my yard tractor but now after reading a lot on here I am ready to try a ZT I am finding it is not easy to find the right one to fit my needs. It needs to be able to hang slopes and cut 2 foot tall grass (weeds). And handle 40 hours a week of hard use

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Going to a golf course to try this out

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I demo one of those at work this past summer. Nice machine but wasn't overly impressed. Hope you know your lookin at $30k

I am looking at a used one it is 2 years old. Going in a auction next week has a lot of hrs on it but is at a golf course so thinking was maintained good. What did you not like about it

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I havent personly used one but 22hp an 50inch for 2500 sounds good:smile:

Carscw said:

I am looking at a used one it is 2 years old. Going in a auction next week has a lot of hrs on it but is at a golf course so thinking was maintained good. What did you not like about it

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I tested a 72" diesel 4wd with 4 wheel steering.
The machine felt too big and bulky. I mow alot of hills so I took it there. It did everything I tried. But just wasn't too impressed.
If you can get it for a good price I'm sure you'd like it. And do everything you ask of it. Don't remember if quick connect attachments were standard,but they are nice.
What model/size you lookin at?

Carscw said:

I am finding it is not easy to find the right one to fit my needs. It needs to be able to hang slopes and cut 2 foot tall grass (weeds). And handle 40 hours a week of hard use

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If you are mowing 40 hours a week of hard use, you don't want anything Cub Cadet.

Looking at a grounds master 360 72 deck. 36hp kabota

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Carscw said:

Looking at a grounds master 360 72 deck. 36hp kabota

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It's a big commercial machine so it's gonna do everything you said above. My bet is it'll still go in the upper teens. Bring yr wallet.

Ric, the Zforce S I was going to buy did not have serviceable drives-or rather was most of us would call serviceable drives, the ezt or 2200 is listed in the specs;

http://www.hydro-gear.com/Main/docs/service-repair-manuals/ezt---2100-Bln-52622_p10.pdf

the download may take a bit

Carscw said:

Only good review I can find is it does good on hills witch is what I need but the cons cancel that out. I lot of people said they have to purge the drive every time they mow or can't go in reverse. I think I will pass on this. I have been happy with my yard tractor but now after reading a lot on here I am ready to try a ZT I am finding it is not easy to find the right one to fit my needs. It needs to be able to hang slopes and cut 2 foot tall grass (weeds). And handle 40 hours a week of hard use

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I think a full blown commercial machine is what I would shoot for if you plan on using it 40 hours a week. I really like my Deere x749 aws 4x4 on slopes it does a great job in that situation. But I don't use it as much as you are referencing.

You should really consider a new machine for that much use, sounds as if this would be your livelyhood.

robert said:

Ric, the Zforce S I was going to buy did not have serviceable drives-or rather was most of us would call serviceable drives, the ezt or 2200 is listed in the specs;

http://www.hydro-gear.com/Main/docs/service-repair-manuals/ezt---2100-Bln-52622_p10.pdf

the download may take a bit

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Robert the Zforce S you were looking at is the low end residential unit, much like the RZT unit sold at the BBS. If you went to the dealer you would find them stocking the High end residential units and they would have the ZT-2800 drives and the commercial units run the ZT-3100 drives, all Z-Force S. As I said it depends on what unit you buy, you get what you pay for.

How did I know Robert would put a link up

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Carscw said:

Only good review I can find is it does good on hills witch is what I need but the cons cancel that out. I lot of people said they have to purge the drive every time they mow or can't go in reverse. I think I will pass on this. I have been happy with my yard tractor but now after reading a lot on here I am ready to try a ZT I am finding it is not easy to find the right one to fit my needs. It needs to be able to hang slopes and cut 2 foot tall grass (weeds). And handle 40 hours a week of hard use

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Carscw I'm going to make a suggestion, you say this mower needs to be able to hang slopes and cut 2 foot tall grass (weeds). And handle 40 hours a week of hard use.
If your thinking a ZTR I personally I think you are dreaming. If you want something that is affordable to buy and economical to use or run that will do what you want I would suggest you start looking at some commercial wide area walk behinds. They can be purchased for between 2 and 5k new depending on the size of deck and choice of gear driven or hydro drives.
I personally run the Cub Cadet G-1336 and I haven't found anything that it will not cut. I do foreclosed homes on occasion with 2ft tall grass and that have pond areas with slopes in the back and it's no problem.
I just don't believe you'll ever find a ZTR that will do what you want to do. As far as Robert putting a link, I have no comment. :laughing:

Thanks Ric for your input did not think about a walk behind. I believe you are right a walk behind might just be the best way to go. Every one talks about how a ZTR is the way to go and I have not found one to fit my needs for under 10k

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Well once again Ric you are incorrect, if you intended to say that all COMMERCIAL ZForce S models use the drives mentioned you are right, however the- Z Force S- is a specific model line which uses the non serviceable 2200 drives and this line is what I provided the link to.

So to clarify it for you Ric, Z Force S is a model line with non servieable drives: Commercial Z Force S is another line which uses the drives you mention.

Omg I am so sorry I started this thread

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I feel for anyone who is really looking for information on LMF, this constant battle with sero turn vs tractor is a PITA.

A Cub Cadet GT2000 riding mower is just another mower, definately nothing special and certainly isn't up to the task of 40 hours a week.

The constant arguing and bickering here really makes me wonder about the IQ of some participants.

I think I will just google walk behind mowers and read the reviews. Unless anyone here has used one and would like to give there input

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robert said:

Well once again Ric you are incorrect, if you intended to say that all COMMERCIAL ZForce S models use the drives mentioned you are right, however the- Z Force S- is a specific model line which uses the non serviceable 2200 drives and this line is what I provided the link to.

So to clarify it for you Ric, Z Force S is a model line with non servieable drives: Commercial Z Force S is another line which uses the drives you mention.

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Robert the residential Z-Force S models consist of the Z-Force 46", 48", and 48"LP all run the Dual EZT transmission The Residential 54", 60" and 60"LP all run the Dual Hydro ZT-2800 Drives. The Commercial Z-Force S models consist Of the 54", 60", and the 60"LP and they run the Dual Hydro ZT-3100 Drives. Now if you would like to talk about the Tank S that's an entire different story. They run Dual Hydro-Gear PK-12 pumps and Parker wheel motors.
Robert I'll say it for the last time you were looking at is the low end residential unit, much like the RZT unit sold at the BBS. If you went to the dealer you would find them stocking the High end residential units and they would have the ZT-2800 drives and the commercial units run the ZT-3100 drives, all Z-Force S. All 2800 and 3100 drives are serviceable the RZT units are not because it's the cheap low end stuff and I'm not incorrect.

Carscw said:

Thanks Ric for your input did not think about a walk behind. I believe you are right a walk behind might just be the best way to go. Every one talks about how a ZTR is the way to go and I have not found one to fit my needs for under 10k

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Another suggestion that mite save you a little money would to keep a check on Craiglist. There was a couple of Scags listed locally here not that would do you any good but you never know what someone mite be trying to sell.

Was just on graigslist looking at a scag 48

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Ric, thank you for clarifying.

jenkinsph, to say the Cub Cadet 2000 series is exceptional compared to the competitiion is a gross understatement and the pictures on ;
betsy-tom (betsy-tom)'s Photos | SmugMug clearly illustrate this.

Look past the color grasshopper, only then will you see the true value.

jenk, rather than posting ricisms why don't you link to another brand which offers similar component and build quality at anywhere near the price point of the Cub 2000?

Let me sweeten the offer, show me another tractor with even similar component/build quality within the Cub price point and I will go away, forever :thumbsup: :confused2:

Robert you are so right I don't know why they don't listen to you

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Robert,
I use two riding mowers for my work, an L130 Deere and the x749 Deere, between the two they accomplish all the tasks I have for them. The L130 I use for most of my mowing because it is very light and simply put is good enough for the task and cheaper at less than $3000. The x749 handles mowing on steep terrain and 3ph implements for building and maintenance of new lawns and fully equipped was about $13,000. Having these two riders I just don't see the need to waste time looking at stuff in between.

I did my homework before I made my last purchase and have been satisfied with the choices I made. For my business needs the x749 was a better choice than a zero turn on subcompact tractor but for others depending on their needs they may find they need something else. I needed something smaller than my Deere 4520 cab tractor and Deere 110tlb to work the tight spots and the x749 fills the bill perfectly for me.

Now if what I needed was a mowing machine as the main use and had enough level ground to work with I would definately consider a zero turn mower over any two wheel drive-two wheel steer rider such as my L130 or your CC 2000. Reason being way faster and more manuerable with a good cut quality. The guys that live in other areas of the US where the grass grows fast and have plenty of mowing to do have good reason to choose a zero turn mower. It fits their needs perfectly, and does a great job, I am not foolish enough to think my L130 can compete with a zero turn mower and not about to think your CC 2000 can either. I already have the L130 and it is paid for, when it dies I will likely replace it with a zero turn mower, it will likely cost alot more than a 100 series Deere. You get what you pay for whether you choose a conventional rider or zero turn model and the abilities of the machines vs. cost has to be weighed in on a needs basis. I will do the research when needed to insure I get one with a good quality drivetrain, good deck and other features I deem worthwhile.

robert said:

Ric, thank you for clarifying.

jenkinsph, to say the Cub Cadet 2000 series is exceptional compared to the competitiion is a gross understatement and the pictures on ;
betsy-tom (betsy-tom)'s Photos | SmugMug clearly illustrate this.

Look past the color grasshopper, only then will you see the true value.

jenk, rather than posting ricisms why don't you link to another brand which offers similar component and build quality at anywhere near the price point of the Cub 2000?

Let me sweeten the offer, show me another tractor with even similar component/build quality within the Cub price point and I will go away, forever :thumbsup: :confused2:

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Thank you for clarifying.

Ric, re: post 17