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Friend of mine brought over his newly acquired HRX217 TDA. Push mower with the honda Overhead cam. Got it from an estate sale. Apparently sat for about 2 years in the weather. No spark, I have a new coil and plug in the way and the carburetor, I'll let the pictures do the talking!!!

The main "passage way" going up into it was clogged solid. I'm assuming this is what high ethanol fuel does when it sits.?

Yes,that and the water it attracts . Time for one of these : https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Adjustable-...235358?hash=item2f1d038ede:g:cdIAAOSwAOdbMD1h

Honda GC's are basicaly throw away motors anyway. Japanese junk.

SidecarFlip said:

Honda GC's are basicaly throw away motors anyway. Japanese junk.

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No,its Chinese junk

Next once i get the carb kit in, i'll open the valve cover and look at the rocker arms. I know they are known for getting cracks in the arms, especially the exhaust arm.

tranchinh said:

No,its Chinese junk

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It's Foreign junk!! :laughing:

Scrubcadet10 said:

Next once i get the carb kit in, i'll open the valve cover and look at the rocker arms. I know they are known for getting cracks in the arms, especially the exhaust arm.

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Scrub a carb kit ???? Do you have a Ultrasonic cleaner ???? That might be the only way to clean that carb Buddy ~!~!

BTW your Honda is made in Japan great engine ~!~!

Boudreaux In Eunice La. said:

Scrub a carb kit ???? Do you have a Ultrasonic cleaner ???? That might be the only way to clean that carb Buddy ~!~!

BTW your Honda is made in Japan great engine ~!~!

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Well I say carb kit, New gaskets for mounting is what I should have said.:confused2:
I got it cleaned up real nice with some carb cleaner. I need to take an after picture

Boudreaux In Eunice La. said:

Scrub a carb kit ???? Do you have a Ultrasonic cleaner ???? That might be the only way to clean that carb Buddy ~!~!

BTW your Honda is made in Japan great engine ~!~!

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Normally, I don't disagree with your wisdom but in this case, I do. The GC Series is a disposa-motor. It's junk, from the pressure die casting to the plastic cam belt inside. I had 2 and both went south, one tossed a rod, the other, the belt broke and scrambled the valves and American Honda would not provide and closure. I'd rather have a no oil B&S than a Honda GC. In fact, both motors were replaced with HF Preds. Never had any issues with HF motors at all. Cheap and reliable.

Not sure where the GC is made, China, Japan or India but it's junk none the less.

SidecarFlip said:

Normally, I don't disagree with your wisdom but in this case, I do. The GC Series is a disposa-motor. It's junk, from the pressure die casting to the plastic cam belt inside. I had 2 and both went south, one tossed a rod, the other, the belt broke and scrambled the valves and American Honda would not provide and closure. I'd rather have a no oil B&S than a Honda GC. In fact, both motors were replaced with HF Preds. Never had any issues with HF motors at all. Cheap and reliable.

Not sure where the GC is made, China, Japan or India but it's junk none the less.

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No problem Mon Ami .............I think the newer Honda's need to go back to the engineering dept. and go back to the older quality stuff ~!~!

Exhaust valve rocker arm cracked. New one on the way

Boudreaux In Eunice La. said:

No problem Mon Ami .............I think the newer Honda's need to go back to the engineering dept. and go back to the older quality stuff ~!~!

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That's why I'll keep my HR214SX until I am too old to cut my grass any longer.

SidecarFlip said:

Honda GC's are basicaly throw away motors anyway. Japanese junk.

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Same for the 190? I have a HRX217 which I believe has a GC190 engine.

jsalis57 said:

Same for the 190? I have a HRX217 which I believe has a GC190 engine.

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They surely can make good engine,selling twice the money but customer use 10 times longer without buying new lawnmower so they make less profit .B.S do that first .
I saw lots of GCV160 and GCV 190 at scrap metal ,Lawn care pro in Houston use HR217 for customer backyard for a year then replace the engine

jsalis57 said:

Same for the 190? I have a HRX217 which I believe has a GC190 engine.

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I have a 2005 HRX217HMA with the GCV190. Hmm, runs super going on 14 years now for this "junk."

Considering the extended warranty Honda offer on their mowers most of them are substantially better than anything else made in the USA
We get both the idiot moron proof USA models and the European , customer has a functioning brain models down here.
The European models are substantially better than the USA ones and a lot easier to use & work on as they do not come with dead mans throttle , engine brake, blade brake and of course are fitted with the vastly superiour cut quality swing back blades.
They are also slightly more expensive than the USA models at full retail but often found cheap at discount stores.

However they are just a lawnmower and no matter how good they are made idiots can bugger them up in no time flat .