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Fluid filling tires on your mower
#1
Nwatson99
Nwatson99
There is a topic rolling in the Hustler forum, but I wanted to bring one here to the home forum.
I am going Sat tentatively to have it done to my rear tires Z960R, I am going back to my dealer having this work done due to the warranty will stay in effect on my rim and tires.
The fluid they are installing is called Rim Guard, so who has experience with it on your JD mower either ZT or LT?
The Rim Guard is the same stuff they put into the JD tractors and the reason I am going this is it is suppose to help eliminate wheel chalk with the ZT, which I do not have this all the time, but sometimes swinging into a tree or bush with the trim side of the mower I have had this happen with darn near every type of riding mower I have ever used.
I am going Sat tentatively to have it done to my rear tires Z960R, I am going back to my dealer having this work done due to the warranty will stay in effect on my rim and tires.
The fluid they are installing is called Rim Guard, so who has experience with it on your JD mower either ZT or LT?
The Rim Guard is the same stuff they put into the JD tractors and the reason I am going this is it is suppose to help eliminate wheel chalk with the ZT, which I do not have this all the time, but sometimes swinging into a tree or bush with the trim side of the mower I have had this happen with darn near every type of riding mower I have ever used.
#2
gfp55
gfp55
If there was a dealer that sold Rim Guard in my area and that sold the stuff so I could put it in my own tire I would have it in mine today. Its a nontoxic liquid that is heavier then water, will not eat up your rims, will not burn and you don't need tube in your tires. The only thing you should do is install metal valve stems because it will eat the adhesive on the tubeless valve stems after some time. You can spill it and not worry about the danger of polluting the ground and ground water. Its a natural fluid made from, I think sugar beets or some kind of beet plant. I guess the it sells for $0.28 to $0.50 a pound or something like that, but I'm not sure. You would have to ask a dealer for prices. It is cheaper then iron weights per pound.
#3
Nwatson99
Nwatson99
Tires are filled and they even added more to the right side to compensate for the fuel tank on the left, so I will report on this just as soon as I mow.
#4
gfp55
gfp55
So give us the run down of Rim Guard, how much per gallon, how much per tire, you know give us the facts man. Just an overview. What size tires on your JD 23x12x12?
#5
Carscw
Carscw
Your going to notice as soon as you get on a hill.
Next you need some super lug tires then you can ride it to the store in the snow.
Next you need some super lug tires then you can ride it to the store in the snow.
#6
Nwatson99
JD Tire Size: 24x12-12
Rim Guard weight: 11lbs per gallon
Rim Guard color: Smurf Blue "lol"
Added to my Tires: Left 8.5 gallons and Right 10 gallons
Air pressure: 12lb
Total cost: $60.88
Edit to add: Oh also tires, rims, and trannies are still under full warranty.
Nah I will ride the Rubicon for that mission, it has power steering. :thumbsup:
Nwatson99
Sorry about that:So give us the run down of Rim Guard, how much per gallon, how much per tire, you know give us the facts man. Just an overview. What size tires on your JD 23x12x12?
JD Tire Size: 24x12-12
Rim Guard weight: 11lbs per gallon
Rim Guard color: Smurf Blue "lol"
Added to my Tires: Left 8.5 gallons and Right 10 gallons
Air pressure: 12lb
Total cost: $60.88
Edit to add: Oh also tires, rims, and trannies are still under full warranty.
I was told the same thing, but my main reason for it was the slide in around trees and stuff with the trim side of the deck so the left wheel does not chalk, so we will see in about 2 days.Your going to notice as soon as you get on a hill.
Next you need some super lug tires then you can ride it to the store in the snow.
Nah I will ride the Rubicon for that mission, it has power steering. :thumbsup:
#7
gfp55
gfp55
Thats the way to go. 11 lbs per gallon. I'm going to have get that stuff. Extra weight and still under warranty, that's great. I can't wait for your write up after some time with it in your tires. Thanks for sharing
#9
Nwatson99
Well I honestly thought according to the news last night I could try it out today, but it has rained here for the past two hours and thunder is rolling so it might be a few more days delay in the report.
Nwatson99
waiting to hear the results so that I can decide if I want to do my JD930
Well I honestly thought according to the news last night I could try it out today, but it has rained here for the past two hours and thunder is rolling so it might be a few more days delay in the report.
#10
gfp55
gfp55
Its worth the wait.
#11
B
billymagg
oh go ahead and give it a real test, mowing in the rain is often "necessary"????? sure, when the honey badger gets to finding me too many honey-do's it time to go mow!:laughing:
B
billymagg
Its worth the wait.
oh go ahead and give it a real test, mowing in the rain is often "necessary"????? sure, when the honey badger gets to finding me too many honey-do's it time to go mow!:laughing:
#12
Nwatson99
You ain't kidding there, looks like tomorrow evening and Wed before I am going to be able to go deck down.
Nwatson99
oh go ahead and give it a real test, mowing in the rain is often "necessary"????? sure, when the honey badger gets to finding me too many honey-do's it time to go mow!:laughing:
You ain't kidding there, looks like tomorrow evening and Wed before I am going to be able to go deck down.
#13
L
LoCo86
I've never heard the term wheel chalk. What is it?
L
LoCo86
There is a topic rolling in the Hustler forum, but I wanted to bring one here to the home forum. I am going Sat tentatively to have it done to my rear tires Z960R, I am going back to my dealer having this work done due to the warranty will stay in effect on my rim and tires. The fluid they are installing is called Rim Guard, so who has experience with it on your JD mower either ZT or LT? The Rim Guard is the same stuff they put into the JD tractors and the reason I am going this is it is suppose to help eliminate wheel chalk with the ZT, which I do not have this all the time, but sometimes swinging into a tree or bush with the trim side of the mower I have had this happen with darn near every type of riding mower I have ever used.
I've never heard the term wheel chalk. What is it?
#14
Nwatson99
Okay I hope I can get this explained easy enough
You are mowing when you make a turn to or towards the left / trim side of the deck to cut around a tree, bush, house, etc, with ZTR and after you have made that cut your pull back on the right controller and the right wheel spins until it either grabs and pulls you out or you have to use the left wheel to help get your moving.
Riding mower same scenario as above just pulling back on the forward and reverse arm or foot pedal and just sit there spinning your tire(s).
Nwatson99
I've never heard the term wheel chalk. What is it?
Okay I hope I can get this explained easy enough
You are mowing when you make a turn to or towards the left / trim side of the deck to cut around a tree, bush, house, etc, with ZTR and after you have made that cut your pull back on the right controller and the right wheel spins until it either grabs and pulls you out or you have to use the left wheel to help get your moving.
Riding mower same scenario as above just pulling back on the forward and reverse arm or foot pedal and just sit there spinning your tire(s).
#15
Nwatson99
Nwatson99
Well folks I got to try the mower out today with the filled tires and all I can say is I wished I had done this years ago.
I ran the mower through two tests I knew I was going to do and one that was not planned at all and it is almost like a completely different mower.
The tests were as follows:
1. Mowing horizontal on my pond dam; this dam I know my boundaries and how high I can mow up on it without sliding and mowing sideways so today I was able to mow two complete passes higher than the boundary line without sliding an inch and pretty confident I could have made a 3 pass, but I did not want to push it since the grass was dry and the ground is still saturated from the rain we had since Sat.
So test on the pond dam passed with flying colors.
2. Also around the dam there are several trees I can mow around all the trees with no problem at all, however after I have circled around one tree in particular from front, then left side, to rear, then the right side I have tried to back up which is partially on the dam incline with 4 different zero turn mowers and I have never been able to do until today. I made my normal pass and instead of continuing forward and going on to the next area, I stopped pulled back on the controls and bam I was backing up the dam and away from the tree.
So reverse test on a incline and close cut area around a tree passed.
3. The unexpected test: There is a small hole in the yard very close the pond on the opposite side of the dam that I know I cannot drive into and out of it when the ground is wet, well I was not thinking and totally forgot the ground was saturated and hello there it is and I am in it.
This little hole has snagged me 4 times and I had to take my F-150 to get the JDs' out, so I do not even try to get out when I drop into it since I know the tires just spin, so I sat there for maybe 5 seconds, pushed the controllers forward and drove right on out of this small hole.
So the dreaded little hole passed, but I am not going to push my luck testing it and will wait for dry yard. LOL
Ride:
The ride which I am sure some will wonder and ask, but the rear end felt softer and more cushion to it, which I was worried about the ride being worse and harder since the tires are filled now.
Controls:
Response from the controllers and tires also seems to be faster and best way to describe it is the tires are biting and moving faster.
The Con:
Non there was one con I found which is nothing and I really would not call it a con, but I wanted to let everyone know.
I noticed with the extra weight of the tires when you drive you ZT on wet ground you can see your tire tracks on wet ground, well with the filled tires the tires are actually squeezing water out of the ground, so you do get more water / moisture out of the ground where the tires roll that you can see.
I ran the mower through two tests I knew I was going to do and one that was not planned at all and it is almost like a completely different mower.
The tests were as follows:
1. Mowing horizontal on my pond dam; this dam I know my boundaries and how high I can mow up on it without sliding and mowing sideways so today I was able to mow two complete passes higher than the boundary line without sliding an inch and pretty confident I could have made a 3 pass, but I did not want to push it since the grass was dry and the ground is still saturated from the rain we had since Sat.
So test on the pond dam passed with flying colors.
2. Also around the dam there are several trees I can mow around all the trees with no problem at all, however after I have circled around one tree in particular from front, then left side, to rear, then the right side I have tried to back up which is partially on the dam incline with 4 different zero turn mowers and I have never been able to do until today. I made my normal pass and instead of continuing forward and going on to the next area, I stopped pulled back on the controls and bam I was backing up the dam and away from the tree.
So reverse test on a incline and close cut area around a tree passed.
3. The unexpected test: There is a small hole in the yard very close the pond on the opposite side of the dam that I know I cannot drive into and out of it when the ground is wet, well I was not thinking and totally forgot the ground was saturated and hello there it is and I am in it.
This little hole has snagged me 4 times and I had to take my F-150 to get the JDs' out, so I do not even try to get out when I drop into it since I know the tires just spin, so I sat there for maybe 5 seconds, pushed the controllers forward and drove right on out of this small hole.
So the dreaded little hole passed, but I am not going to push my luck testing it and will wait for dry yard. LOL
Ride:
The ride which I am sure some will wonder and ask, but the rear end felt softer and more cushion to it, which I was worried about the ride being worse and harder since the tires are filled now.
Controls:
Response from the controllers and tires also seems to be faster and best way to describe it is the tires are biting and moving faster.
The Con:
Non there was one con I found which is nothing and I really would not call it a con, but I wanted to let everyone know.
I noticed with the extra weight of the tires when you drive you ZT on wet ground you can see your tire tracks on wet ground, well with the filled tires the tires are actually squeezing water out of the ground, so you do get more water / moisture out of the ground where the tires roll that you can see.
#16
Carscw
It's the little things in life like this that make us happy.
Why everyone does not do this I don't know.
Very good review and glad you are happy with the results.
Carscw
Well folks I got to try the mower out today with the filled tires and all I can say is I wished I had done this years ago. I ran the mower through two tests I knew I was going to do and one that was not planned at all and it is almost like a completely different mower. The tests were as follows: 1. Mowing horizontal on my pond dam; this dam I know my boundaries and how high I can mow up on it without sliding and mowing sideways so today I was able to mow two complete passes higher than the boundary line without sliding an inch and pretty confident I could have made a 3 pass, but I did not want to push it since the grass was dry and the ground is still saturated from the rain we had since Sat. So test on the pond dam passed with flying colors. 2. Also around the dam there are several trees I can mow around all the trees with no problem at all, however after I have circled around one tree in particular from front, then left side, to rear, then the right side I have tried to back up which is partially on the dam incline with 4 different zero turn mowers and I have never been able to do until today. I made my normal pass and instead of continuing forward and going on to the next area, I stopped pulled back on the controls and bam I was backing up the dam and away from the tree. So reverse test on a incline and close cut area around a tree passed. 3. The unexpected test: There is a small hole in the yard very close the pond on the opposite side of the dam that I know I cannot drive into and out of it when the ground is wet, well I was not thinking and totally forgot the ground was saturated and hello there it is and I am in it. This little hole has snagged me 4 times and I had to take my F-150 to get the JDs' out, so I do not even try to get out when I drop into it since I know the tires just spin, so I sat there for maybe 5 seconds, pushed the controllers forward and drove right on out of this small hole. So the dreaded little hole passed, but I am not going to push my luck testing it and will wait for dry yard. LOL Ride: The ride which I am sure some will wonder and ask, but the rear end felt softer and more cushion to it, which I was worried about the ride being worse and harder since the tires are filled now. Controls: Response from the controllers and tires also seems to be faster and best way to describe it is the tires are biting and moving faster. The Con: Non there was one con I found which is nothing and I really would not call it a con, but I wanted to let everyone know. I noticed with the extra weight of the tires when you drive you ZT on wet ground you can see your tire tracks on wet ground, well with the filled tires the tires are actually squeezing water out of the ground, so you do get more water / moisture out of the ground where the tires roll that you can see.
It's the little things in life like this that make us happy.
Why everyone does not do this I don't know.
Very good review and glad you are happy with the results.
#17
Nwatson99
Thank ya sir, now clean out your PM box
Nwatson99
It's the little things in life like this that make us happy.
Why everyone does not do this I don't know.
Very good review and glad you are happy with the results.
Thank ya sir, now clean out your PM box
#18
gfp55
gfp55
It's the little things in life like this that make us happy.
Why everyone does not do this I don't know.
Very good review and glad you are happy with the results.
First off thats a great review and if people read and take your advice about loading their tires on both tractors and zero turns more people would be safer and have more control on hills, ditches, etc. I don't know why dealers are not telling their customers about loaded tires when they are selling mowers. I think you gave an honest review, you had two test planned out and the third one was a bonus. (you need to fill in the hole) I think you talked about that hole in your last review on you newest JD. You write reviews that people can understand. Good job. Carscw;; Do you remember when we posted about loading tires and how some people said how you were wrong and how it doesn't help, etc, etc. Well if they read Nwatons99 review and believe it they just might try it and see and feel the difference in the handling of their machines. I have loaded my tires for years and know for a fact that is a good idea and it make mowers safer on hills, ditches, etc with better traction and ride.Thank ya sir, now clean out your PM box
#19
Carscw
I cleaned it out
Carscw
. Dang thing stays full.Thank ya sir, now clean out your PM box
I cleaned it out
#20
Carscw
The thing with people is they are scared of what they do not understand.
Carscw
Carscw;; Do you remember when we posted about loading tires and how some people said how you were wrong and how it doesn't help, etc, etc. Well if they read Nwatons99 review and believe it they just might try it and see and feel the difference in the handling of their machines. I have loaded my tires for years and know for a fact that is a good idea and it make mowers safer on hills, ditches, etc with better traction and ride.
The thing with people is they are scared of what they do not understand.
#21
gfp55
gfp55
How true and they are afraid to try something new and don't want to listen to people.The thing with people is they are scared of what they do not understand.
#22
Nwatson99
Thanks man and yes I assure you that hole is going to get filled.
Nwatson99
First off thats a great review and if people read and take your advice about loading their tires on both tractors and zero turns more people would be safer and have more control on hills, ditches, etc. I don't know why dealers are not telling their customers about loaded tires when they are selling mowers. I think you gave an honest review, you had two test planned out and the third one was a bonus. (you need to fill in the hole) I think you talked about that hole in your last review on you newest JD. You write reviews that people can understand. Good job. Carscw;; Do you remember when we posted about loading tires and how some people said how you were wrong and how it doesn't help, etc, etc. Well if they read Nwatons99 review and believe it they just might try it and see and feel the difference in the handling of their machines. I have loaded my tires for years and know for a fact that is a good idea and it make mowers safer on hills, ditches, etc with better traction and ride.
Thanks man and yes I assure you that hole is going to get filled.