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Ferris 700z. Snapper s125 or s200. Dixon ultra 61.

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diamatron

My old toro 17-52z died. So here is my current short list for a zero turn under 6500.

Ferris 700z.
Snapper pro s125
Snapper pro s200
Dixon ultra 61
Dixon dx161

All 61" cuts


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DSepe

My old toro 17-52z died. So here is my current short list for a zero turn under 6500. Ferris 700z. Snapper pro s125 Snapper pro s200 Dixon ultra 61 Dixon dx161 All 61" cuts
I own a 600z Ferris and really enjoy it. Would you be getting the kawasaki or vanguard on that 700z? Both very good engines. Snapper is made by Ferris also so the Pro line is the same mower without suspension. Parent company of both is B&S. I really like that Dixon DX161 what is the exact pricing on that?


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Shughes717

My old toro 17-52z died. So here is my current short list for a zero turn under 6500.

Ferris 700z.
Snapper pro s125
Snapper pro s200
Dixon ultra 61
Dixon dx161

All 61" cuts

The only difference in the is700 and the s125xt is the price and the suspension. Otber than That they are identical. The s200xt is in the class with the ferris is2100. It is a better mower than The other two i mentioned. I dont have much experience with dixon, but they are built by husqvarna so they should be good mowers. I have the s150xt and it is a very good machine. My dad has the s200xt with the suspension seat and mows 9 acres with it. Which engine options are you looking at? The is700 and the s125xt is offered with the fs series kawi, concidered commercial, but the s200xt is offered with the big block vanguard and the fx series kawi. Those are the engines i would recommend if you are interested in ferris/snapper pro. Icd deck is a good cutting deck as well.


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Shughes717

Where can you get a s200xt for under 6500? That is a great price. Jump on that one.


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DSepe

Where can you get a s200xt for under 6500? That is a great price. Jump on that one.
I agree... price on s200xt is awesome.


#6

djdicetn

djdicetn

I own a 600z Ferris and really enjoy it. Would you be getting the kawasaki or vanguard on that 700z? Both very good engines. Snapper is made by Ferris also so the Pro line is the same mower without suspension. Parent company of both is B&S. I really like that Dixon DX161 what is the exact pricing on that?

In 2012 my Dixon dealer gave me his "best price" on a DX152 of $6,391 OTD. You can probably get into a DX161 for $6,500 OTD. They are VERY good machines at that price point. I ended up giving about $400 more for my Gravely but it was a better ZTR overall to the Dixon.


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diamatron

S 200xt on sale for $6075 but they are about 350 miles away. Briggs commercial turf 27hp.

Do you recommend against that engine. I won't be using the machine commercially. Just mowing my 5 acres.


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DSepe

S 200xt on sale for $6075 but they are about 350 miles away. Briggs commercial turf 27hp. Do you recommend against that engine. I won't be using the machine commercially. Just mowing my 5 acres.
Not sold on the commercial turf. It is a variant of the not so popular Intek engine. It was introduced this year. I can recommend the the B&S Vanguard/Big block or Kawasaki. Just so everyone knows I am not knocking B&S because I had a Vanguard for 26 years on my other mower. The dealer was pushing me to get the B&S Comm turf on my Ferris but I didn't wanna be the guinea pig. He says they fixed all the issues...they may have but I'm very cautious when it comes to that stuff.


#9

Av8r

Av8r

S 200xt on sale for $6075 but they are about 350 miles away. Briggs commercial turf 27hp.

Do you recommend against that engine. I won't be using the machine commercially. Just mowing my 5 acres.

I too went for the kawasaki. I'm sure the B&S would be fine, but for just a couple hundred more, you get peace of mind. Good luck and happy mowing


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diamatron

The units I am looking at are 2013 closeouts. Will this be the mode year the problems were had with the turf engine.


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Shughes717

S 200xt on sale for $6075 but they are about 350 miles away. Briggs commercial turf 27hp.

Do you recommend against that engine. I won't be using the machine commercially. Just mowing my 5 acres.

That is an unbelievable price for a s200xt, but I'm with the others on this one. Not sold on the commercial turf engine. It is supposedly a commercial grade engine and will have a Donaldson air filter, but I wasn't a fan of the intek. For that price it may be worth giving it a shot though. It should mow your 5 acres I two hours or less. My dad can mow 9 in 3.5 hours with his and that's driving it a half mile down the road. I would see if you could get the vanguard or the Kawi for under 7000 before I purchased if it were me.


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Shughes717

The units I am looking at are 2013 closeouts. Will this be the mode year the problems were had with the turf engine.

I have not seen or heard of any problems with the commercial turf engine, but the engine hasn't been out very long. The problems were with the intek engines. As was mentioned earlier these engines are claimed to be better. Many people, myself included, are just a little gun shy and don't want to be the ones to try them first. As I mentioned earlier though, you would be getting a lot of mower for that price. Most likely one of the reasons it is priced so low is to get people to try them. Of the mowers on your list it is in the bigger class. I can tell you the rest of the mower is very well made. I bought my mower after trying my dad's. I mow 4.2 acres myself with a 48" s150xt in 2.5 hours and get a great cut. If you can get an s200xt with one of the other engines for anything close to that price then that would be the route I would take. If that's the only one in that range then it would be too hard for me to pass up. Around here the best price I can get for a s200xt is 7500. 8500 for the Kawi or vanguard.


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DSepe

I'm with Shughes on this one. The price is so good I would probably get it...even with the Turf on it. They claim the problems have been fixed so maybe they have. The price is amazing. So amazing I didn't realize we were talking about a 200xt at first. I saw 125xt and 150xt even though you said 200xt lol


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Shughes717

If you do pull the trigger on one of those mowers I would go ahead and get the suspension seat. I should have gotten it when I bought mine myself. I will be getting one before next season.


#15

djdicetn

djdicetn

The units I am looking at are 2013 closeouts. Will this be the mode year the problems were had with the turf engine.

Whoa....timeout....red flag....penalty. Do I hear you right(all of these are "2013"models)???? You realize that means when all the other dealers except this one (or these) sold all of their 2013 on-hand inventory by at least late October, 2013 to early November, 2013 before the new 2014 models come in sometime after Thanksgiving 2013, this handful of preemo ZTR's just didn't happen to sell.

Believe me, I bought my 2012 Gravely in mid-September, 2012(and saved a bunch at the end of the season) and when I went to my dealer on 11/02/2013 to purchase a mulch kit he told me ALL of the 2012's on hand(that's Gravelys, Scags, Cub Cadet and Snapper) had sold, just some hadn't been picked up yet(I asked because I still saw a couple of Scags & Gravelys on the floor). If those Commercial Grade ZTR's you mentioned had not sold by November, 2013(just before the 2014's arrived) I would wonder why the dealers' commercial customers didn't pick them up for just about dealer cost???? Also.....for some strange reason, no one in your area had been able to swing a deal for the last 7-8 months after the 2014's came in???

And you realize, just like cars....when you "drive that ZTR off the lot" it will be 2 Years old(can you spell depreciation)?? I assume they would still have a "New Warranty" but I can't keep from thinking in the back of my mind.......sumpin smells fishy here:0(


#16

djdicetn

djdicetn

That is an unbelievable price for a s200xt, but I'm with the others on this one. Not sold on the commercial turf engine. It is supposedly a commercial grade engine and will have a Donaldson air filter, but I wasn't a fan of the intek. For that price it may be worth giving it a shot though. It should mow your 5 acres I two hours or less. My dad can mow 9 in 3.5 hours with his and that's driving it a half mile down the road. I would see if you could get the vanguard or the Kawi for under 7000 before I purchased if it were me.

So after thinking about it a little more....do you think the OP's getting such a deal on the s200xt because it is a 2013(will be two years old in 4 months or so when the 2015's come in to the dealerships). If I were a dealer I would be "embarrassed" to still have those kind of 2013 ZTR's in stock and were unable to sell them this close to the 2015's arriving!!!


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pcclipper

Matters not to me. I just bought a 2012 Ferris is 1500ZXKAW2352 with only 19.1 hours on it. I still have 2 months on the warranty. What a mower!! I paid 4800 for mower and a 12 x 7 trailer.


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Shughes717

So after thinking about it a little more....do you think the OP's getting such a deal on the s200xt because it is a 2013(will be two years old in 4 months or so when the 2015's come in to the dealerships). If I were a dealer I would be "embarrassed" to still have those kind of 2013 ZTR's in stock and were unable to sell them this close to the 2015's arriving!!!

Yes I do think it's an unbelievable deal. It will still have a new mower warranty and these mowers don't depreciate like a car does. I don't see it as an issue. That's just me though. Not much difference in the 2013 and 2014 models. If anyone can get an s200xt for that price new they should jump on it. My dad's is a 2011 with almost 300 hours and he can get between 5000 and 6000 for his. Mine is a 2012 s150xt and I turned down a 4000 offer.


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Shughes717

Matters not to me. I just bought a 2012 Ferris is 1500ZXKAW2352 with only 19.1 hours on it. I still have 2 months on the warranty. What a mower!! I paid 4800 for mower and a 12 x 7 trailer.

I remember that. That was an amazing deal as well. As I told you earlier I am jealous of that one. You can turn around and sell the mower alone for at least 5000 and still have the trailer, but if you are like me you didn't buy a mower to sell it in a year or two. I wanted a mower that would last me 20 years. By the way, how do you like the cut of the icd deck pcclipper?

P.s. Your mower and mine are the same. Mine just doesn't have that suspension. You may have the larger deck though.


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DSepe

I remember that. That was an amazing deal as well. As I told you earlier I am jealous of that one. You can turn around and sell the mower alone for at least 5000 and still have the trailer, but if you are like me you didn't buy a mower to sell it in a year or two. I wanted a mower that would last me 20 years. By the way, how do you like the cut of the icd deck pcclipper? P.s. Your mower and mine are the same. Mine just doesn't have that suspension. You may have the larger deck though.
Shughes when you gonna sell that Snapper and buy a 2100z lol

Anyway OP tell us what you end up buying


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Shughes717

Shughes when you gonna sell that Snapper and buy a 2100z lol

Anyway OP tell us what you end up buying

If i could afford it i would. That would be the only way i would get rid of my snapper pro.


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diamatron

Decided i really don't want to travel hours away, so keeping my search more local.

Today I stopped by my neighborhood Ferris Dealer. He has a 700z Turf for $7000, which he doesn't recommend for my 5 acre lot. He wants to sell me a 2100 Vanguard for $8200.

Both being out of my price range. I left a message for the Snapper Pro area dealer, hopefully he returns my call.

Local Dixon dealer is advertising a 61" Commercial Mower for $5699, showing a picture of the dx161. I have to call and see if they are trick selling the ultra.

Let you guys know.


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Shughes717

Decided i really don't want to travel hours away, so keeping my search more local.

Today I stopped by my neighborhood Ferris Dealer. He has a 700z Turf for $7000, which he doesn't recommend for my 5 acre lot. He wants to sell me a 2100 Vanguard for $8200.

Both being out of my price range. I left a message for the Snapper Pro area dealer, hopefully he returns my call.

Local Dixon dealer is advertising a 61" Commercial Mower for $5699, showing a picture of the dx161. I have to call and see if they are trick selling the ultra.

Let you guys know.

Sounds like the dealer is just trying to get more money from you. The is700 would handle 5 acres easily. Which engine option did you look at for the is700? Seems a little high unless you were looking at the 28hp vanguard big block.


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diamatron

Got better results calling places today.

Dixon dx161 $52699th Koehler

Snapper pro s125 $5199 fs kaw
Snapper pro s200 $6440 turf

Bad boy czt60. $5874. ? Engine

That's a great price in the 125 I think and shouldn't it have the better deck then the Dixon?

Don't know much about bad boy. The 200 snapper is one tough machine.

Hard to decide


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Shughes717

Got better results calling places today.

Dixon dx161 $52699th Koehler

Snapper pro s125 $5199 fs kaw
Snapper pro s200 $6440 turf

Bad boy czt60. $5874. ? Engine

That's a great price in the 125 I think and shouldn't it have the better deck then the Dixon?

Don't know much about bad boy. The 200 snapper is one tough machine.

Hard to decide

That is a good price for the s125xt and the s200xt. They will both do the job. The icd deck is on both and cuts well. The main difference in the two is you would be upgrading from zt3400 ( on s125xt) hydros to zt5400 (on s200xt). And of course the engine. Still a great price on the s200xt. The is700 is the same mower as the s125xt I think your ferris dealer was high on it. You will be fine with any of the mowers you are considering.


#26

djdicetn

djdicetn

Got better results calling places today.

Dixon dx161 $52699th Koehler

Snapper pro s125 $5199 fs kaw
Snapper pro s200 $6440 turf

Bad boy czt60. $5874. ? Engine

That's a great price in the 125 I think and shouldn't it have the better deck then the Dixon?

Don't know much about bad boy. The 200 snapper is one tough machine.

Hard to decide
When I looked at Dixons in 2012 the DX161 only came with the Briggs Commercial Turf or the Kawasaki FX....the Ultra 61 came with the Kohler Courage. You may want to get some clarification on the engine and make sure it's a DX100, not an Ultra(the price seems awfully cheap for a DX100). The Kohler Courage is a big turn off!! IMHO, I would pick (1)Snapper Pro S125, (2)Dixon DX161(if it comes with the Kawa), (3)Snapper Pro S200 and (4)Bad Boy CZT60.


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Shughes717

Don't forget to get the suspension seat though. I can tell you from experience it makes a difference. Dad has it, and I don't.


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diamatron

Your were right. The dx161 comes with the Briggs and stratton


#29

djdicetn

djdicetn

Your were right. The dx161 comes with the Briggs and stratton

Sure wish it had the Kawa.....I'm not a big B & S fan:0(


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Shughes717

Sure wish it had the Kawa.....I'm not a big B & S fan:0(

If we go by history we would stay away from the b&s, but the commercial turf engines haven't been out long enough to pass judgement yet. It would be hard for me to pass up an opportunity to get an s200xt for under 6500. I have never seen one priced below 7500. A lot of mower for that price. I know it will be mentioned that it is the same old intek engine.


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Shughes717

Forgot to mention this earlier, but with the s200xt you get 10 gallon fuel capacity, zt5400 hydros, larger wider tires, and flat free front tires.


#32

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diamatron

Since I am down to snappers, I will re-post this to their dedicated forum.

Went and met the Snapper Dealer and test drove the 2 units. And I have for sure decided its between the 2 Snappers.

s125 Kaw - $5100
s200 BS Turf - $6440

Tests drive I noticed how much more comfortable the premium seat is on the s200, and you can add the suspension plate for $200 if you want. I felt like the sound of the Kawasaki on the s125 was more pleasant, and for some reason the s125 felt more responsive with its steering. Is this just me, or the torque of the Kawasaki or maybe the 3400 are 'quicker'..... I don't know. Probably just me liking the Kawasaki!

So I am in Limbo between the two models. Both are going to mow my yard in the same time frame, and both will hold up to my 5 acre lot without issues.

Price of better seat on s125 - $350 aftermarket i think. You can a a full under seat mount suspension to s200 seat for $200, but its seat seemed pretty comfortable already.

Whats the input, Should I get less mower and great engine at a great price?

or, get a powerhouse mower with a hopefully not underpowered Briggs Engine that could have issues?

Looking forward to your input!

Rick


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Shughes717

Since I am down to snappers, I will re-post this to their dedicated forum.

Went and met the Snapper Dealer and test drove the 2 units. And I have for sure decided its between the 2 Snappers.

s125 Kaw - $5100
s200 BS Turf - $6440

Tests drive I noticed how much more comfortable the premium seat is on the s200, and you can add the suspension plate for $200 if you want. I felt like the sound of the Kawasaki on the s125 was more pleasant, and for some reason the s125 felt more responsive with its steering. Is this just me, or the torque of the Kawasaki or maybe the 3400 are 'quicker'..... I don't know. Probably just me liking the Kawasaki!

So I am in Limbo between the two models. Both are going to mow my yard in the same time frame, and both will hold up to my 5 acre lot without issues.

Price of better seat on s125 - $350 aftermarket i think. You can a a full under seat mount suspension to s200 seat for $200, but its seat seemed pretty comfortable already.

Whats the input, Should I get less mower and great engine at a great price?

or, get a powerhouse mower with a hopefully not underpowered Briggs Engine that could have issues?

Looking forward to your input!

Rick

You will be fine either way bud. They are both good mowers. I listed the advantages to the s200xt earlier. I am a fan of the Kawi engine though. I don't think the commercial turf will be under powered though.


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diamatron

Don't forget to get the suspension seat though. I can tell you from experience it makes a difference. Dad has it, and I don't.

Does your dad have the premium grey/red seat with the suspension insert, or the black suspension seat?


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Shughes717

Does your dad have the premium grey/red seat with the suspension insert, or the black suspension seat?

His is the s200xt so it is the premium grey seat with the suspension insert. Mine is the black seat. I will be getting the insert before next season. I found a post about the commercial turf engine on the gravely thread. I put it on the snapper thread. It sounds like b&s did make several improvements on their engine.


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diamatron

His is the s200xt so it is the premium grey seat with the suspension insert. Mine is the black seat. I will be getting the insert before next season. I found a post about the commercial turf engine on the gravely thread. I put it on the snapper thread. It sounds like b&s did make several improvements on their engine.

Thank you so much for your help! I am at ease on the engine at least from seeing the improvements documented there! Also your statement that the 27hp wouldn't be underpowered at all. And, knowing the suspension seat options for both units. So All I have to decide is if the extra features worth the extra dimes. But note, this B&G model is somewhat stripped of some of the 200 lines features. I believe the flat free front tires, and the dual gas tanks are not standard. Maybe some kind of cushioned bearing on the lever arms?, not sure what else.


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Shughes717

Thank you so much for your help! I am at ease on the engine at least from seeing the improvements documented there! Also your statement that the 27hp wouldn't be underpowered at all. And, knowing the suspension seat options for both units. So All I have to decide is if the extra features worth the extra dimes. But note, this B&G model is somewhat stripped of some of the 200 lines features. I believe the flat free front tires, and the dual gas tanks are not standard. Maybe some kind of cushioned bearing on the lever arms?, not sure what else.

Have you made a decision on what you are going with yet? Interested to know what you went with.


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diamatron

I tried to stop by the dealer today but ran out of time this morning. I think I am going with s200xt. Because it comes with the premium seat that is easily upgraded for 200 dollars to full suspension. And also the bigger tires should help traction on the slopes. Plus everything else is one step more hd then the 125 for nit much more dime

But haven't pulled any trigger yet. I was going to drive that s 125 one more time to be sure


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Shughes717

I tried to stop by the dealer today but ran out of time this morning. I think I am going with s200xt. Because it comes with the premium seat that is easily upgraded for 200 dollars to full suspension. And also the bigger tires should help traction on the slopes. Plus everything else is one step more hd then the 125 for nit much more dime

But haven't pulled any trigger yet. I was going to drive that s 125 one more time to be sure

I think you are making a good choice. If you have some slopes the heavier s200xt and the bigger hydros will do better. The wider tires will help minimize soil compaction as well. My dad's mower is heavier than mine, but the foot print is lighter. You can see my tire tracks more than his. Not a big deal. I just make sure I don't run over the same tracks every time I mow. You also taught me something about the s200xt. I was unaware they offered one without the flat free front tires and the dual tanks.


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diamatron

Ya. I super excited, I have followed the zero turns for a couple years. Snapper pros just always hit the sweet spot for me. I have a friend who's just started a lawn business with a skag. He hates that I a buying snapper, he is all about brand names skag, dixie, bad boy, husquana.... ect. Though I do feel bad for my neighbor who brought a mtd zero turn last fall. He mows 2acres way too short, 2 inches maybe, and it's all clumpy and streaking. He has nothing but trouble with his deck coming loose and his engine, kohler courage 27, not wanting to start. My engine, briggs turf 27, is my only gamble. I could have went down a spec on the drivetrain and got a Kawasaki. But I am good with all the knowledge I received here and other places about the briggs being built pretty good. I will for sure take extra special care of it. She gets delivered tomorrow around 10. Should get her first mow Saturday or Sunday. And it will be a tough task with no mow for 3 or 4 weeks a


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Shughes717

Ya. I super excited, I have followed the zero turns for a couple years. Snapper pros just always hit the sweet spot for me. I have a friend who's just started a lawn business with a skag. He hates that I a buying snapper, he is all about brand names skag, dixie, bad boy, husquana.... ect. Though I do feel bad for my neighbor who brought a mtd zero turn last fall. He mows 2acres way too short, 2 inches maybe, and it's all clumpy and streaking. He has nothing but trouble with his deck coming loose and his engine, kohler courage 27, not wanting to start. My engine, briggs turf 27, is my only gamble. I could have went down a spec on the drivetrain and got a Kawasaki. But I am good with all the knowledge I received here and other places about the briggs being built pretty good. I will for sure take extra special care of it. She gets delivered tomorrow around 10. Should get her first mow Saturday or Sunday. And it will be a tough task with no mow for 3 or 4 weeks a

Awesome, let me know how it goes.


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Shughes717

I don't understand your friend's thinking. How is badboy a brand name and snapper pro not a brand name? Snapper pro (ferris/simplicity) has been making commercial mowers longer than badboy.


#43

Carscw

Carscw

I would think snapper would be a lot higher on the list then badboy.

Snapper was making one of the best mowers many many years before badboy came along.

I have a 1998 snapper pro and still use it over my newer mowers.


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Shughes717

I would think snapper would be a lot higher on the list then badboy.

Snapper was making one of the best mowers many many years before badboy came along.

I have a 1998 snapper pro and still use it over my newer mowers.

I know, right? Lol


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diamatron

It's just amazing how marketing can influence the general public. Advertising creates buzz words and theories that just don't apply to real world situations. I did my my homework and decided on snapper pro, of course my local dealer seems awesome and anything less would have influenced me greatly.

Max actually rolls his eyes when I mention snapper to him. Today he tried to change my mind to buy a 2007 dixie chopper eagle lt2300 50" for 3800. Telling me it's a great deal on a dixie because they are the fastest mowers in the world. Again.... Marketing.


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Shughes717

It's just amazing how marketing can influence the general public. Advertising creates buzz words and theories that just don't apply to real world situations. I did my my homework and decided on snapper pro, of course my local dealer seems awesome and anything less would have influenced me greatly.

Max actually rolls his eyes when I mention snapper to him. Today he tried to change my mind to buy a 2007 dixie chopper eagle lt2300 50" for 3800. Telling me it's a great deal on a dixie because they are the fastest mowers in the world. Again.... Marketing.

Google zero turn lawn mower race. Was done in 2011. Hustler super z, scag cheetah, john deere, exmark laser z, and Dixie chopper. The hustler smoked them all. Scag was second, jd and exmark were the same and Dixie chopper was last. Sure didn't look like the fastest mower in the world to me. Just an unsubstantiated claim by the manufacturer. I believe that Dixie chopper makes one mower that can go over 20 mph, but it is too expensive to buy. The rest of their mowers are no faster than any other commercial brand.


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diamatron

Got the s200xt delivered today. Mowed a small section and took a trip around the yard. Going to have to get used to the speed and size and controls over time. I would take a picture but you all know what they look like.


Only small gripe is the dealer just gave me any old s200 manual and it doesn't match my actual model and the engine manual doesn't match either.


#48

djdicetn

djdicetn

Got the s200xt delivered today. Mowed a small section and took a trip around the yard. Going to have to get used to the speed and size and controls over time. I would take a picture but you all know what they look like.


Only small gripe is the dealer just gave me any old s200 manual and it doesn't match my actual model and the engine manual doesn't match either.

Congrats on the purchase......and no, we all don't know what they look like(post a picture, we wanna see it:0)


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Shughes717

Got the s200xt delivered today. Mowed a small section and took a trip around the yard. Going to have to get used to the speed and size and controls over time. I would take a picture but you all know what they look like.


Only small gripe is the dealer just gave me any old s200 manual and it doesn't match my actual model and the engine manual doesn't match either.

Let them know. If they are as good as it sounds they will correct that. The biggest problem you will have is that you will get done so quick you will be disappointed that you don't have more to mow. I run into that myself. I even went across the road and volunteered to help the church across from me mow their lot. I did more in 20 minutes than they did with two mowers. Would have done more, but had a flat lol.


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diamatron

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A pic of my new mower. My family thinks i spent too much, but they can have fun mowing with their Craftsman tractors..... lol


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Shughes717

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A pic of my new mower. My family thinks i spent too much, but they can have fun mowing with their Craftsman tractors..... lol

I totally agree. Mowing will be fun for you. It will be a chore for them, and it will take them twice as long as it would take you to mow lol. Good looking mower. Ask your buddy max what it would have cost him to get the same features on a Dixie chopper or scag. Couldn't even come close to the price you got that one for.


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DSepe

Got the s200xt delivered today. Mowed a small section and took a trip around the yard. Going to have to get used to the speed and size and controls over time. I would take a picture but you all know what they look like. Only small gripe is the dealer just gave me any old s200 manual and it doesn't match my actual model and the engine manual doesn't match either.

Funny thing, my dealer gave me a FX Kawasaki manual when I have a FS Kawasaki on my Ferris.


#53

clpolcar

clpolcar

Funny thing, my dealer gave me a FX Kawasaki manual when I have a FS Kawasaki on my Ferris.[/QUOTE]

My dealer gave me the right right mower manual and wrong engine manual. Gave me the FH and I have the FS Kawasaki engine


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djdicetn

djdicetn

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A pic of my new mower. My family thinks i spent too much, but they can have fun mowing with their Craftsman tractors..... lol

That's a fine looking machine!!! Just tell them what I did....it's a retirement investment, because regardless of your age if you take care of that ZTR it'll outlast you:0)


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DSepe

That's some serious reinforcement up at the caster tires!


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diamatron

That's some serious reinforcement up at the caster tires!

This thing is a tank. From the frame to the tires with all the heavy duty connecting rods and ball joints and bearings. A beast for the price. Last Minute I came across a Dixon dx260 for just 500 more dollars. The dixon came with a Kawasaki engine which I liked. But this Snapper Pro's build quality is second to none in this price range.

Of course, loved my dealer. But since the sale they haven't answered any of my emails or returned any of my calls. I know its fair season and they are busy with that. But time will tell if my dealers just was all talk to get the sale or not.

Rick


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Shughes717

This thing is a tank. From the frame to the tires with all the heavy duty connecting rods and ball joints and bearings. A beast for the price. Last Minute I came across a Dixon dx260 for just 500 more dollars. The dixon came with a Kawasaki engine which I liked. But this Snapper Pro's build quality is second to none in this price range.

Of course, loved my dealer. But since the sale they haven't answered any of my emails or returned any of my calls. I know its fair season and they are busy with that. But time will tell if my dealers just was all talk to get the sale or not.

Rick

You definitely got a very good mower for an awesome price. Let us know how it goes after you mow with it. Are you still looking into getting the suspension insert?


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diamatron

I hope to mow this evening if my wife gets home rom her hair dresser in time. I tried calling and emailing the dealer to get the insert and trailer hitch ordered. But they stopped communication after the sale.


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DSepe

I hope to mow this evening if my wife gets home rom her hair dresser in time. I tried calling and emailing the dealer to get the insert and trailer hitch ordered. But they stopped communication after the sale.
That's messed up if they are truly done talking to you...very hard to find a good dealer these days. Mine takes about 2 calls before they do what I ask during peak season.


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diamatron

Was able to use my mower tonight. I was very impressed with the power of the engine and capacity handling of the deck. Knowing I got the smaller engine option I went in skeptical, but only in the heaviest of grass did I notice any issues. And I haven't mowed my yard In over 4 weeks, so some areas were super thick.

I didn't time myself directly, but the hour meter says 1.4 hours now. My previous best was 2 1/4 hours. So I am going to be saving a lot of time, because today I slowed down over the high grass areas.

Grass clippings are somewhat clumpy, but like I said I was making hay out there. The cut looks amazing otherwise, but no evidence of a striping kit at all. I mowed at 3 1/4, which my old mower would have crapped out at. I checked my deck level ness before I mowed and it was almost perfectly level without any pitch, maybe a 1/16 down in the rear.

The controls are a lot stiffer then my old worn out toro, but much more responsive. I found the seat very comfortable and my feet are supported nicely to support myself when things get rough. I will be getting the insert, mind as we'll have the best ride possible! That is if I can find a dealer to sell me the items, hard to find online. The deck really discharges the grass quickly and lays down a carpet like cut. My dogs like to carry small tree limbs and such around the yard and mowed over a few of these such items. Shot these items out like a rocket, even with the chute down.

Afterwards I got out the leaf blower to get all the tall grass clipping off the top,of the deck. They all blew off nicely except for around the outside spindle next to the discharge chute. The mounting hardware for the chute didn't allow me to get in there and clean it out, I had to dig in with my hands and got most of it. If this issue remained I might remove the safety cover from that spindle.

Overall grade.... "A"

Mowed a under a demanding condition with ultimate success!


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Shughes717

Was able to use my mower tonight. I was very impressed with the power of the engine and capacity handling of the deck. Knowing I got the smaller engine option I went in skeptical, but only in the heaviest of grass did I notice any issues. And I haven't mowed my yard In over 4 weeks, so some areas were super thick.

I didn't time myself directly, but the hour meter says 1.4 hours now. My previous best was 2 1/4 hours. So I am going to be saving a lot of time, because today I slowed down over the high grass areas.

Grass clippings are somewhat clumpy, but like I said I was making hay out there. The cut looks amazing otherwise, but no evidence of a striping kit at all. I mowed at 3 1/4, which my old mower would have crapped out at. I checked my deck level ness before I mowed and it was almost perfectly level without any pitch, maybe a 1/16 down in the rear.

The controls are a lot stiffer then my old worn out toro, but much more responsive. I found the seat very comfortable and my feet are supported nicely to support myself when things get rough. I will be getting the insert, mind as we'll have the best ride possible! That is if I can find a dealer to sell me the items, hard to find online. The deck really discharges the grass quickly and lays down a carpet like cut. My dogs like to carry small tree limbs and such around the yard and mowed over a few of these such items. Shot these items out like a rocket, even with the chute down.

Afterwards I got out the leaf blower to get all the tall grass clipping off the top,of the deck. They all blew off nicely except for around the outside spindle next to the discharge chute. The mounting hardware for the chute didn't allow me to get in there and clean it out, I had to dig in with my hands and got most of it. If this issue remained I might remove the safety cover from that spindle.

Overall grade.... "A"

Mowed a under a demanding condition with ultimate success!

Lift the discharge Shute up and slide it forward so it rests on the bolt. There is a slot on the bottom side of the shield just like it is on the other side. You should be able to blow the grass out with the Shute in the up position. Some grasses don't stripe well, and if your grass was too tall it may take a few cuttings before it greens up to show stripes. The icd deck does leave a great cut. I have had a little trouble with clover, but I got rid of the clover this spring. Good to hear that the engine has the power to cut the tall grass. I was concerned that the 20 hp fx Kawi I have on my mower would not be powerful enough to handle the 48" deck on my mower, but it surprised me on the first mowing. These mowers are well built.


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serelaw

I think I'm gonna remove mine also.
Too much work to clean. I'm lazy.
I see a lot of lco's that have removed them also around here.


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Shughes717

How are things going with the s200xt diamatron? Any luck with your dealer? I hope you are able to get the suspension insert. I rode dads on his lawn again last week and it is a huge difference in the ride. I hope you are able to stripe your lawn this year. If you cut it regular at 3.25 and it gets green you should start seeing stripes (depending on what type of grass you have). If not you may have to raise your mowing height a little more.


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diamatron

Probably just have to show up at the dealer in person and see why thy ditched me. I used to mow at 3.5 before because it's all the power I really had, and noticed more striping from the vacuum alone then I have now.

What type of oil is the general census for being best in our mowers? I am leaning towards using sae 30 Dino oil. It's done we well in the past. But, I have switched to synthetic in my autos, so debating on mower. But they don't make plain 30 wieght in synthetic.


#65



DSepe

Probably just have to show up at the dealer in person and see why thy ditched me. I used to mow at 3.5 before because it's all the power I really had, and noticed more striping from the vacuum alone then I have now. What type of oil is the general census for being best in our mowers? I am leaning towards using sae 30 Dino oil. It's done we well in the past. But, I have switched to synthetic in my autos, so debating on mower. But they don't make plain 30 wieght in synthetic.

The oil debate gets nasty on here so be warned. You do whatever works best for you is all I can say lol


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Shughes717

The oil debate gets nasty on here so be warned. You do whatever works best for you is all I can say lol

Totally agree with that post. Many different opinions about that one. Whatever works best for you. I use 5w 30 synthetic and have had no issues. Haven't thought about it, but slowing down May help with the striping. I run as fast as I can and get some stripes, but it would probably do better if I ran at a slower speed. I just can't help myself. I enjoy getting on a long straight away and letting it eat. Try to better my time every time I mow.


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Shughes717

We're you able to see what I was attempting to describe with the slot on the bottom side of the shield on the discharge side?


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diamatron

Ya. Both spindle covers have a small opening on the outside edge. I was able to blow the one side clean
, the the discharge side gave me trouble. I will try propping up the chute next time.

Thanks.


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Shughes717

Ya. Both spindle covers have a small opening on the outside edge. I was able to blow the one side clean
, the the discharge side gave me trouble. I will try propping up the chute next time.

Thanks.

Keep me posted on how you like the engine. I have friends who ask me about ztr mowers all the time. It would be nice to have some input from some actual commercial turf engine owners.


#70



DSepe

Totally agree with that post. Many different opinions about that one. Whatever works best for you. I use 5w 30 synthetic and have had no issues. Haven't thought about it, but slowing down May help with the striping. I run as fast as I can and get some stripes, but it would probably do better if I ran at a slower speed. I just can't help myself. I enjoy getting on a long straight away and letting it eat. Try to better my time every time I mow.
Now that shughes said it first he'll be the one they go after lol. I also use 5w 30 synthetic in my mower based on what the dealer says he uses on all Kawasaki motors he services.


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Shughes717

Now that shughes said it first he'll be the one they go after lol. I also use 5w 30 synthetic in my mower based on what the dealer says he uses on all Kawasaki motors he services.

Lol, thanks for throwing me under the bus bro. I can take criticism though. I'm used to it.


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diamatron

Sorry, I knew oil is quite a buzz word for debate. I search and really don't find much about what turf owners are using. I will use a plan and let everyone know how it works. But fir now I will follow the manual and allow the engine to go through its break in procedure.


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Shughes717

I now see why you were having trouble cleaning the discharge chute side of your mower deck diamatron. My dad is in Texas harvesting cotton, so I mowed for him today with his mower. I noticed when I started cleaning the deck that there is a ridge where the discharge chute mounts that blocks access to the slot on the bottom of the pulley shield. That ridge is not on my 48" deck. Looks like the manufacturer could have cut the ridge down so it wouldn't block the slot.


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diamatron

Left rear drive has a very slow leak. Upon testing with soapy water I foind a pin hole in the inner sidewall. Called service dept and they have to order me in a new tire. Thwy didn't have any a of my turf saver type on the floor it had to be ordered


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Shughes717

Left rear drive has a very slow leak. Upon testing with soapy water I foind a pin hole in the inner sidewall. Called service dept and they have to order me in a new tire. Thwy didn't have any a of my turf saver type on the floor it had to be ordered

Hope they are covering the tire under warranty, I got a hole in my drive tire and went to a tire place to get it replaced. Was told it would be $95. I just had them put a tube in it for now.


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wdrdoctor

Royal Purple offers straight 30 in fully synthetic. Your local auto stores don't carry it,but you can order it online.


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diamatron

Yes, they are covering the tire under warranty. Well at least they said the claim would be made under warranty.

I have seen the royal purple sae30. Looks to be a good product line they offer. Amazon carries the product at a good prices.


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wdrdoctor

I wouldn't use synthetic oil in a zero turn mower until it has at least 50+ hrs on it. On a brand new zto you should do your first oil and filter change at 10 hrs,and then every 50 hrs after that. That's just my opinion. Also make sure you keep an eye on your air filter because dirt is what reduces the life of an engine.


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diamatron

The premium seat suspension insert. Looks like its part by K & M 6081.

I haven't seen the insert in person but online looks identical on pics. And can find it under 160 shipped.

Anyone verify this part number works with my s200xt model 5901280.


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Shughes717

The premium seat suspension insert. Looks like its part by K & M 6081.

I haven't seen the insert in person but online looks identical on pics. And can find it under 160 shipped.

Anyone verify this part number works with my s200xt model 5901280.

I do not know if they are the same, but I am also interested in finding that one out. I will be getting the suspension insert or the suspension seat myself next year


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diamatron

I will let you know. I found someone posting that it was a direct fit on their ferris mower. So I ordered one. Rural king is who has them for under 160 free shipping.


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diamatron

Installed the K&M 6081 today. Direct fit on my s200xt with premium seat and glider. Probably added a couple inches highg of the seat. Used exciting and some hardware from the kit. Takes so,e common sense to install. I figure if you order the snapper brand it would come with more precise instructions. Now to mow and see how it does.

So far love my mower, great looking yard compared to before. Only con is more fuel then then my old wimpy zero turn and louder by far. I hear a lot of rattling while mowing, culprits seem to be rops bar folded down, deck chains, and deck shoot whiles going over bumpy terrain.


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Shughes717

Installed the K&M 6081 today. Direct fit on my s200xt with premium seat and glider. Probably added a couple inches highg of the seat. Used exciting and some hardware from the kit. Takes so,e common sense to install. I figure if you order the snapper brand it would come with more precise instructions. Now to mow and see how it does.

So far love my mower, great looking yard compared to before. Only con is more fuel then then my old wimpy zero turn and louder by far. I hear a lot of rattling while mowing, culprits seem to be rops bar folded down, deck chains, and deck shoot whiles going over bumpy terrain.

Glad to know the k&m insert will work. Does the two inches in height make it uncomfortable when working the steering levers?


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diamatron

Haven't driven it yet. But I have a big belly and the levers are lower now over my belly more. If it bothers me there is plenty of adjustment on the handles to be good to go.


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diamatron

Suspension seat a true success. Meets expectations and above really canr believe how much is smoothed out ny ride. My back isn't even stiff after hours of mowing.

Should be standard feature on all faster zero turns.


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Shughes717

Suspension seat a true success. Meets expectations and above really canr believe how much is smoothed out ny ride. My back isn't even stiff after hours of mowing.

Should be standard feature on all faster zero turns.

I am glad to hear the after market suspension insert works on snapper pro. I will be looking into them before next season. Are the control levers still comfortable to operate with the seat being higher?


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diamatron

There were some 1/2 inch spacers from factory I didn't re use making the height change less. I am siting one click more forward probably so my legs are comfortably reaching the footrest. And angled the levers forward a little to make up for that as well.

When I started mowing I noticed my body kinda swinging forward and back gliding over the bumpy terrain. All while my legs were getting bounced around on the deck below. As I got used to the movement all I noticed is I was cruising along much faster then before. Lol


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