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Engine died and will now not crank Hustler Raptor 42" FR651VR engine Model 931741 serial number 13011560

#1

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Cocoloco

The engine just stopped, it will not crank!! nothing no clicking nothing, I did not hit anything.
had to push it to the shed now what.
It has fuel I checked the volts the other day when it was running had 13V.
Is there a cut out for the oil level?? I thought I checked it before starting and it was full.
Im going back out in the 100F weather to start t/shooting again BUT im not electrically minded.
I checked battery volts 0; its on charge.
I will put the batt back in tomorrow after a good night charge if it starts, where do I put the meter to check if the battery is charging? on the batt terminals or?
Where is the voltage regulator location I cannot find a good diagram or photo.
Thank you.


#2

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Cocoloco

I presume a safety switch is stopping the mower from cranking, the battery is charged


#3

StarTech

StarTech

First check the master fuse.
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#4

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Cocoloco

NICE ive been looking for one of these wiring diagrams. yes the 15A master fuse by the starter solenoid....starter relay? it looked good yesterday im going to check the continuity today. my meter battery was dud.


#5

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Cocoloco

replaced fuse thank you for the input!!!! now we have noise but still not turning over. What charges the Battery this is a newish battery, Im taking it to get it checked tomorrow but im thinking the charging system is not working. Where do I place the multi meter to see if the alternator?? is working, if I get the mower running.


#6

StarTech

StarTech

Since this fuse blew while operating check the PTO clutch coil resistance. Should be in the range of 2.65 - 2.92 ohms if it has the original Warner TG clutch. If below 2.65 then the clutch is partially shorted and needs replacing.

Now the only to test for charging is to have the engine running then you check across the battery terminals and the voltage should climbing above the battery's standing voltage and not above 14.8-15 volts.


#7

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MParr

Did you remember to turn the PTO switch off?


#8

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Cocoloco

StarTech said:
Since this fuse blew while operating check the PTO clutch coil resistance. Should be in the range of 2.65 - 2.92 ohms if it has the original Warner TG clutch. If below 2.65 then the clutch is partially shorted and needs replacing.

Now the only to test for charging is to have the engine running then you check across the battery terminals and the voltage should climbing above the battery's standing voltage and not above 14.8-15 volts.
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The clutch that is bolted onto the engine spindle? I replaced that maybe 3 years ago. Is the clutch coil part of that assembly?
And thanks for the engine running volts info, before this happened I checked the running volts it was 13volts Im going to jump the mower this morning with the batt charger see if it starts. Then check the volts running


#9

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Cocoloco

MParr said:
Did you remember to turn the PTO switch off?
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Yes thanks for the tip.


#10

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Cocoloco

Engine seized??starter engages engine not turning, took both plugs out, top cover off, tried to turn by hand with a bar but it does not rotate just moves a couple of degrees left and right cannot get the engine to rotate fully by hand.


#11

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Cocoloco

If the clutch on the drive shaft is malfunctioning; would that stop the engine from turning?


#12

StarTech

StarTech

IF you are referring to PTO clutch on the engine's crankshaft, then if there is a bearing failure it can.


#13

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Cocoloco

Yes the PTO Clutch.
Thank you.


#14

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Cocoloco

SOLD for parts yesterday!!!! thanks for the info's


#15

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Steve Smith

Cocoloco said:
The engine just stopped, it will not crank!! nothing no clicking nothing, I did not hit anything.
had to push it to the shed now what.
It has fuel I checked the volts the other day when it was running had 13V.
Is there a cut out for the oil level?? I thought I checked it before starting and it was full.
Im going back out in the 100F weather to start t/shooting again BUT im not electrically minded.
I checked battery volts 0; its on charge.
I will put the batt back in tomorrow after a good night charge if it starts, where do I put the meter to check if the battery is charging? on the batt terminals or?
Where is the voltage regulator location I cannot find a good diagram or photo.
Thank you.
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We had a similar problem, left the key on. We have started taking the key out when we are done mowing.


#16

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Cocoloco

Steve Smith said:
We had a similar problem, left the key on. We have started taking the key out when we are done mowing.
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thanks for the reply with the t/s I did I could go no further do not have the tools or garage to strip and or replace.


#17

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rider89

Cocoloco said:
The engine just stopped, it will not crank!! nothing no clicking nothing, I did not hit anything.
had to push it to the shed now what.
It has fuel I checked the volts the other day when it was running had 13V.
Is there a cut out for the oil level?? I thought I checked it before starting and it was full.
Im going back out in the 100F weather to start t/shooting again BUT im not electrically minded.
I checked battery volts 0; its on charge.
I will put the batt back in tomorrow after a good night charge if it starts, where do I put the meter to check if the battery is charging? on the batt terminals or?
Where is the voltage regulator location I cannot find a good diagram or photo.
Thank you.
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My lawn tractor has done that a couple times. I start taking apart the plastic molex connectors and flushing with electrical cleaner/lube, and after each one cleaned, try the starter. There's probably 6 of them on the machine and mostly are about the safety lockouts.


#18

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CV63sami0812

Check fuses, especially battery charging fuse, check fan belt if there is one either replace or tighten. Battery could be not charging dropping out low voltage shutdown relay or switch.


#19

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Gord Baker

From your last response, it sounds like you may have a broken Crankshaft or seized bearings.
Did it slow down slowly or stop abruptly?


#20

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Johner

Cocoloco said:
The engine just stopped, it will not crank!! nothing no clicking nothing, I did not hit anything.
had to push it to the shed now what.
It has fuel I checked the volts the other day when it was running had 13V.
Is there a cut out for the oil level?? I thought I checked it before starting and it was full.
Im going back out in the 100F weather to start t/shooting again BUT im not electrically minded.
I checked battery volts 0; its on charge.
I will put the batt back in tomorrow after a good night charge if it starts, where do I put the meter to check if the battery is charging? on the batt terminals or?
Where is the voltage regulator location I cannot find a good diagram or photo.
Thank you.
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Yes on the terminals, should read 12.5 volts, fully charged. If not more. Could be any safety switch that went bad. Loose wire, keep checking all the switches.


#21

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tstella63

Cocoloco said:
The engine just stopped, it will not crank!! nothing no clicking nothing, I did not hit anything.
had to push it to the shed now what.
It has fuel I checked the volts the other day when it was running had 13V.
Is there a cut out for the oil level?? I thought I checked it before starting and it was full.
Im going back out in the 100F weather to start t/shooting again BUT im not electrically minded.
I checked battery volts 0; its on charge.
I will put the batt back in tomorrow after a good night charge if it starts, where do I put the meter to check if the battery is charging? on the batt terminals or?
Where is the voltage regulator location I cannot find a good diagram or photo.
Thank you.
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Try manually cranking engine by rotating pulley under mower engine


#22

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drumrol

Doesn't sound good. If you can't turn it with the spark plugs out, she might be a goner


#23

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bill.g

I had this same problem and it was the electric clutch that took a dump. When that happens the windings pile up in the clutch and the engine is solid. It just so happened to take out the switch to activate the clutch too. Two issues at once can leave you scratching your head!


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