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#1

striker

striker

hi guys, i have a cub cadet LT 42'' XT1 enduro series and about 5 yrs old, my last mow last season it decided to just cut out in reverse mow mode, it seemed ok ok in forward, could it be that its just the battery or could it be something more sinister, thanks


#2

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bertsmobile1

So to get things clear
Normally the mow in reverse bypass switch would allow you to mow when going backwards .
Now it is not working and when you set the MIR to mow backwards the engine cuts out .
Is that is what is happening .
When you have nothing to go on but the words on a screen it can be difficult to understand exactly what is happening .


#3

striker

striker

yeah, what you say is about right, its like the battery dies, had to jump it to start it after it cut out, but it only cuts out in MIR


#4

StarTech

StarTech

Need the model number from the serial number tag so we can pull the wiring schematics. Also have you recently changed the ignition switch or seat switch?


#5

B

bertsmobile1

As Star says
Some use a relay for the MIR function while others have it built into the switch.


#6

StarTech

StarTech

bertsmobile1 said:
As Star says
Some use a relay for the MIR function while others have it built into the switch.
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Most likely it is 4 position Snap in Delta switch. Either a 47 or 49.


#7

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wekjo

striker said:
hi guys, i have a cub cadet LT 42'' XT1 enduro series and about 5 yrs old, my last mow last season it decided to just cut out in reverse mow mode, it seemed ok ok in forward, could it be that its just the battery or could it be something more sinister, thanks
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Bought a 2006 deere for gal pal, mowed in reverse in spite of switch preventing same. Pulled switch out of panel and previous owner had jumped contacts, eliminating same from circuit. Removed jumper and now one must hold switch down to avoid shut down whilst reverse mowing. Just the way I want it for mechanically challenged and/or drunk operators. Get a new switch for your mower or jumper the contacts


#8

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STEVES

Is it "like have to jump it" or does it not start after reverse & you must jump start it?


#9

S

STEVES

Original battery?


#10

StarTech

StarTech

With out the requested info being provided most things posted are just guesses. Cub Cadet (MTD) uses three different systems that I know of and must know which of three that is being used here. Apparently the OP isn't really interested in fixing the problem so I am stepping out of this thread.


#11

striker

striker

StarTech said:
Need the model number from the serial number tag so we can pull the wiring schematics. Also have you recently changed the ignition switch or seat switch?
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will get it tomorrow and post it, ty


#12

striker

striker

bertsmobile1 said:
As Star says
Some use a relay for the MIR function while others have it built into the switch.
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i will look into it ty


#13

striker

striker

StarTech said:
Most likely it is 4 position Snap in Delta switch. Either a 47 or 49.
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where would i find the delta switch on the mower and how to test it if it has one ?? ty


#14

striker

striker

StarTech said:
With out the requested info being provided most things posted are just guesses. Cub Cadet (MTD) uses three different systems that I know of and must know which of three that is being used here. Apparently the OP isn't really interested in fixing the problem so I am stepping out of this thread.
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sorry , i have been away for some family stuff :(


#15

striker

striker

STEVES said:
Original battery?
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yes, original battery


#16

striker

striker

STEVES said:
Is it "like have to jump it" or does it not start after reverse & you must jump start it?
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#17

striker

striker

yes, it wont start after reverse mow, and now does not start at all with out a jump, it would seem the battery is not charging ty


#18

striker

striker

StarTech said:
Need the model number from the serial number tag so we can pull the wiring schematics. Also have you recently changed the ignition switch or seat switch?
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hi there, the model number is ...............................13AVA1CS056..................date of manu........12/2016


#19

StarTech

StarTech

Okay your ignition switch is the MTD RMC switch setup using the Delta 6900-47 switch. Here is the pin out for the switch.

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Electrical Schematic
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If you need to replace the switch you use the Oregon 33-105 or if you don't mind having a wrong symbol use the Husqvarna 532175566.

The Oregon Switch is the non printed/ non molded version that MTD/Cub uses. The Husqvarna is the printed and will have a headlamp symbol in placed the reverse mode symbol. It is due to way the switch is used here. The switches with the reverse symbol will not work in this application.


#20

striker

striker

striker said:
hi there, the model number is ...............................13AVA1CS056..................date of manu........12/2016
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not changed the ign or seat switch


#21

striker

striker

striker said:
not changed the ign or seat switch
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#22

striker

striker

no, no changes


#23

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STEVES

replace battery so you can properly diagnosis circuits if you haven't done as yet
relay needs battery power to operate correctly


#24

striker

striker

good advice, i will try that as it is due a new battery, thank you


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