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Echo's New PB 8010 Backpack Blower

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Darryl G

Echo finally has their newest and most powerful backpack blower ready for the market. Their top blower currently available is the PB 770 which falls short of the competition. Specs for the 8010 are impressive. 1000+ cfm at 200+ mph. Unfortunately it looks like won't be available until November. I've already ordered one from my dealer. I think they said it's $599.

https://youtu.be/Ws36VAOYmy8

There's some other videos on YouTube as well.

Edit - I just realized that it doesn't have a hip belt like my Husqvarna 580 does. Great feature for extended use. I forgot to check to see if it even has a sternum strap, but it's pretty simple to add that.


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Boobala

Boobala

Echo finally has their newest and most powerful backpack blower ready for the market. Their top blower currently available is the PB 770 which falls short of the competition. Specs for the 8010 are impressive. 1000+ cfm at 200+ mph. Unfortunately it looks like won't be available until November. I've already ordered one from my dealer. I think they said it's $599.

https://youtu.be/Ws36VAOYmy8

There's some other videos on YouTube as well.

Edit - I just realized that it doesn't have a hip belt like my Husqvarna 580 does. Great feature for extended use. I forgot to check to see if it even has a sternum strap, but it's pretty simple to add that.

Better hope ya don't need a JOCK-STRAP for it !! .. Sorry Darryl, I just couldn't resist !! .. :laughing:..:laughing:


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Darryl G

Lol. Nope it's not all that heavy even with an 80cc engine. They lightened it up by using carbon fiber. Seriously.


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Darryl G

Hopefully I'll have my new blower by the end of the month. The tube-mounted throttle units are shipping first followed by the hip-mounted throttle units. My dealer is only getting a pallet of the hip throttle units but will swap with another dealer to get a tube mounted one for me. I could just go get one from another nearby dealer who is only getting tube throttle units, but then I would be parading it around before my dealer gets theirs and potentially lose them sales. Many of the landscaping pros in my area that I'm friendly with use the same dealer that I do.

I can't wait to see what I can do with 1071 cfm of air at 211 mph!



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Boobala

Boobala

Hopefully I'll have my new blower by the end of the month. The tube-mounted throttle units are shipping first followed by the hip-mounted throttle units. My dealer is only getting a pallet of the hip throttle units but will swap with another dealer to get a tube mounted one for me. I could just go get one from another nearby dealer who is only getting tube throttle units, but then I would be parading it around before my dealer gets theirs and potentially lose them sales. Many of the landscaping pros in my area that I'm friendly with use the same dealer that I do.

I can't wait to see what I can do with 1071 cfm of air at 211 mph!

A proper nozzle attachment and you could blow up a lot skirts .. oooooo-eeeee baby !! .. :laughing:..:laughing:


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Darryl G

My dealer got in a pallet of the PB 8010 hip throttle blowers today and I checked one out. I happened to be there for supplies just as they were assembling and firing up the first one. The thing sounds mean! Like a 2 stroke dirt bike. I don't think neighbors will like it much...kind of raspy. I should have my tube throttle unit that they're swapping with another dealer for on Saturday.

My first impressions are that it's going to be a game changer for large leaf cleanups. Myself, the counter guy and the owner all had our mouths hanging open when the mechanic fired it up and gave it the throttle. The thing tacks out!

It doesn't really feel very heavy. I was surprised how light it is. Mind you that my big blower now is the Husqvarna 580 BTS which is a heavy unit and they only had 1/2 a tank of fuel in it, but the Echo felt lighter. And mind you I'm 6'2 and 200+ pounds and a professional landscaper. It's not something I'd strap onto my 110 pound wife. It would probably send her flying, lol.

I'm glad I went with the tube throttle. The hip throttle feels too short for me making me cock my shoulder back and the grip for the tube is fixed and at a steeper angle than I'd like. I believe the tube throttle handle is adjustable. It didn't feel very comfortable but I didn't take the time to adjust the straps much. I think I'll miss the waist belt and sternum strap on my Husqvarna but I've actually been keeping the hip strap loose on my 580 lately to get used to shouldering it.

I'll update this thread when I get my unit and get some time on it. I'm already running into some pretty heavy leaf drops on some of my accounts but I won't be into the big piles for a while yet.

Pretty sure I'm going to sell my Billy Goat 10HP wheel blower. I've hardly used it since I got my 580 and it seems that this Echo will make it entirely obsolete.

Edit:. Here's a photo of it in the bed of landscaper friend's truck.

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Darryl G



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Boobala

Boobala


AWESOME lookin machine ................ :thumbsup:


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Darryl G

I've had my blower a few days now and put about 4 hours on it. It's certainly very powerful, very loud and very thirsty. It seems to be running a bit rich because it gives off fumes like my old Shindaiwa EB-630 units do. I'm not choking on it but it's noticeable.

Comfort is a bit of an issue for me. I can't seem to get it sitting on my back how I'd like it to and although the shoulder straps are curved they sit out further on my shoulders than is comfortable for me. This is where a sternum strap would help. Mind you I've done over 3,000 miles of long-distance backpacking and have been a professional landscaper since 2002, so I'm no stranger to carrying things on my back and no wimp. It doesn't feel heavy to me, I just can't help but keep trying to fuss with the adjustments on the straps and can never seem to get them right. The padding is good, the position of the unit on my back and shoulders just feels wrong.

I had to put the disc in to block the air flow against my back because temps are down in the 50s now and it blows quite a bit of air on your back. It even blows a substantial amount with the disc in. I'm sure it will be nice in the summer but so far I find it to be giving me an unnecessary chill.

The detent on the cruise control level between idle and off is basically non-existent on the tube throttle model. I've already shut it off by accident twice trying to idle it down and once while putting it on. The hip throttle model has a much more obvious detent.

The tube and handle also have comfort and use issues for me. The elbow and flex tube are so large in diameter that they hit my hip if I try to move it left much past the center of my body. The limit is around the 11 o'clock position so if you want to blow left you need to twist your body. I've messed with the angle of the handle and its position fore and aft and no matter how I adjust it my elbow keeps hitting the top of the flex tube, making it tender after a while.

The good news is that it reliably starts cold at 3 pulls and at 2 pulls when warm. It's ready to work almost immediately and throttle response is excellent. There's no noticeable vibration from it; the spring mounting system does an excellent job of isolating the machine from the frame. The tube is about the right length for me. It produces a wide and powerful stream of air that's good for moving leaves and bulky debris like twigs and light brush. I haven't had a chance to try it on large acorn accumulations, pine needles or pine cones yet. Scouring of stuck material is good but not excellent like some units with a higher air speed and more focused stream. Overall it seems to strike a pretty good balance of air flow and velocity and the power is impressive.

The cruise control is a bit tricky to get it set exactly where I want it and I wish the lever was a bit bigger. What I tend to do with tube mount units is to set the cruise at a good speed for what I'm doing and then use the trigger as kind of a turbo when I need some extra power. On this unit I tend to just use the trigger because it's hard to adjust the cruise control with just the small lever and if you hold the trigger and then slide the lever to where you want it, it backs off. Again, it seems like a constant fussing rather than just being how I want it, similar to the straps. I do like that you can hold the trigger all the way in and then slide the cruise control all the way past a locking detent so the throttle doesn't back off over time like it can on some units.

The bottom line is that although this blower is extremely powerful, I'm not in love with it the way I was with my Husqvarna 580 BTS and instead find it kind of annoying to use. The negatives are all pretty minor but add up to the point of annoyance to me. It shouldn't be hard to put a blower on, adjust the straps, operate a cruise control and move a tube a tube around. Maybe I'll get used to it and get things adjusted so that it's comfortable for me but if I haven't managed to do that after 4 hours of use I'm not very hopeful. I want something that I can just throw on my back and use for an hour or 2 without having to fuss with it...ya know. Maybe I won't care once the leaf piles start getting big and I get to use it to its full potential, but I can't see it replacing my 580 as my preferred blower for my mowing route at this point.

I'll put up some pictures and a video or 2 when I get a chance.


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Boobala

Boobala

I've had my blower a few days now and put about 4 hours on it. It's certainly very powerful, very loud and very thirsty. It seems to be running a bit rich because it gives off fumes like my old Shindaiwa EB-630 units do. I'm not choking on it but it's noticeable.

Comfort is a bit of an issue for me. I can't seem to get it sitting on my back how I'd like it to and although the shoulder straps are curved they sit out further on my shoulders than is comfortable for me. This is where a sternum strap would help. Mind you I've done over 3,000 miles of long-distance backpacking and have been a professional landscaper since 2002, so I'm no stranger to carrying things on my back and no wimp. It doesn't feel heavy to me, I just can't help but keep trying to fuss with the adjustments on the straps and can never seem to get them right. The padding is good, the position of the unit on my back and shoulders just feels wrong.

I had to put the disc in to block the air flow against my back because temps are down in the 50s now and it blows quite a bit of air on your back. It even blows a substantial amount with the disc in. I'm sure it will be nice in the summer but so far I find it to be giving me an unnecessary chill.

The detent on the cruise control level between idle and off is basically non-existent on the tube throttle model. I've already shut it off by accident twice trying to idle it down and once while putting it on. The hip throttle model has a much more obvious detent.

The tube and handle also have comfort and use issues for me. The elbow and flex tube are so large in diameter that they hit my hip if I try to move it left much past the center of my body. The limit is around the 11 o'clock position so if you want to blow left you need to twist your body. I've messed with the angle of the handle and its position fore and aft and no matter how I adjust it my elbow keeps hitting the top of the flex tube, making it tender after a while.

The good news is that it reliably starts cold at 3 pulls and at 2 pulls when warm. It's ready to run almost immediately and throttle response is excellent. There's no noticeable vibration from it; the spring mounting system does an excellent job of isolating the machine from the frame. The tube is about the right length for me. It produces a wide and powerful stream of air that's good for moving leaves and bulky debris like twigs and light brush. I haven't had a chance to try it on large acorn accumulations, pine needles or pine cones yet. Scouring of stuck material is good but not excellent like some units with a higher air speed and more focused stream. Overall it seems to strike a pretty good balance of air flow and velocity and the power is impressive.

The cruise control is a bit tricky to get it set exactly where I want it and I wish the lever was a bit bigger. What I tend to do with tube mount units is to set the cruise at a good speed for what I'm doing and then use the trigger as kind of a turbo when I need some extra power. On this unit I tend to just use the trigger because it's hard to adjust the cruise control with just the small lever and if you hold the trigger and then slide the lever to where you want it, it backs off. Again, it seems like a constant fussing rather than just being how I want it, similar to the straps. I do like that you can hold the trigger all the way in and then slide the cruise control all the way past a locking detent so the throttle doesn't back off over time like it can on some units.

The bottom line is that although this blower is extremely powerful, I'm not in love with it the way I was with my Husqvarna 580 BTS and instead find it kind of annoying to use. The negatives are all pretty minor but add up to the point of annoyance to me. It shouldn't be hard to put a blower on, adjust the straps, operate a cruise control and move a tube a tube around. Maybe I'll get used to it and get things adjusted so that it's comfortable for me but if I haven't managed to do that after 4 hours of use I'm not very hopeful. I want something that I can just throw on my back and use for an hour or 2 without having to fuss with it...ya know. Maybe I won't care once the leaf piles start getting big and I get to use it to its full potential, but I can't see it replacing my 580 as my preferred blower for my mowing route at this point.

I'll put up some pictures and a video or 2 when I get a chance.

Beech, Beech, Beech, go buy a %$#@%$#&%%#@ RAKE !! .. :laughing:..:laughing:..:laughing:..:cool2:


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Darryl G

What's a rake? :laughing:


#13

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Darryl G

Here is the 8010 alongside my 580 and a video of it cleaning up debris from a fallen dead Poplar tree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQCEoI_g9M

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#14

Boobala

Boobala

What's a rake? :laughing:

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Darryl G

OK, I take back everything negative I said about this blower, lol. Holy crap does it move leaves!

I messed around with the straps some more. The big issue is them sitting too far out on my shoulders. I tightened up the top straps within about an inch of their limit thus limiting the ability of the shoulder straps to move outwards. This also lowers the blower further down your back though - I would rather have it up higher. It's tolerable now but I think I'll still add a sternum strap.

Here it is pitching some leaves to the woods. I don't think I could have done it that quickly with my 10hp wheel blower. https://youtu.be/8DXVh0wPs7g


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Jason1

I found the new pb8010 for sale on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ECHO-PB-80...h=item3faec2ab0e:g:R34AAOSwYcBbySNf:rk:1:pf:0

My local dealer said they won't have it till January. :frown:


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Darryl G

Lol, that double retail. My dealer sold their 18 units in a few days and they're not expecting more any time soon.


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dhowdy

Just purchased the 8010 and it is all the specs suggest, saved me a half and hour on a job today. The only complaint I have is no chest strap. Had a hard time keeping it from falling off. The volume of leaves it will blow is impressive. I have a Husqvarna 580 and it wasn't even close on large piles of leaves. Pine needles blew out easy also. It has enough power to blow out three in rocks from the landscape, just have to pay attention to where you point it. So far loving it.


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Darryl G

Yeah I was out today with my son running it alongside the 580. No comparison. It has such a wide and powerful air stream! For light duty blowing it's nothing all that special, but when you challenge it is when it really shines. I totally forgive it for not having the best ergonimics and comfort.


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bertsmobile1

What's a rake? :laughing:

In a historical context, a rake (short for rakehell, analogous to "hellraiser") was a man who was habituated to immoral conduct, particularly womanising.
Often, a rake was also prodigal, wasting his (usually inherited) fortune on gambling, wine, women and song, and incurring lavish debts in the process.

Sounds like Boo to me


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Darryl G

Just purchased the 8010 and it is all the specs suggest, saved me a half and hour on a job today. The only complaint I have is no chest strap. Had a hard time keeping it from falling off. The volume of leaves it will blow is impressive. I have a Husqvarna 580 and it wasn't even close on large piles of leaves. Pine needles blew out easy also. It has enough power to blow out three in rocks from the landscape, just have to pay attention to where you point it. So far loving it.

I'm definitely going to put a chest strap on mine. I'll see if my local Stihl dealer has one. I don't see one listed as an Echo accessory anywhere. https://www.stihl.com/STIHL-power-t...edder-accessories/21901-63715/Chest-belt.aspx

This one looks good too. https://www.goruck.com/molle-sternum-strap/

I could probably rig one up myself because I always cut the straps off old backpacks, but I'd probably have to do some sewing for that and use less than ideal materials.


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Darryl G

Just purchased the 8010 and it is all the specs suggest, saved me a half and hour on a job today. The only complaint I have is no chest strap. Had a hard time keeping it from falling off. The volume of leaves it will blow is impressive. I have a Husqvarna 580 and it wasn't even close on large piles of leaves. Pine needles blew out easy also. It has enough power to blow out three in rocks from the landscape, just have to pay attention to where you point it. So far loving it.
Added the Stihl chest strap for $10. Much better!

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#23

Boobala

Boobala

Now all ya need is the JOCK-STRAP .. (be sure it's padded, to protect the "family-jewels" ya know).. :laughing:..:laughing:


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Darryl G

Now all ya need is the JOCK-STRAP .. (be sure it's padded, to protect the "family-jewels" ya know).. :laughing:..:laughing:

The machine needs one for sure, because it sure has what those things are meant to protect. :laughing:


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Boobala

Boobala

The machine needs one for sure, because it sure has what those things are meant to protect. :laughing:

Glad to see it exceeds your expectations Darryl, ..... ENJOY !! .. :thumbsup:


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Jason1

It's on sale at ebay for $566.99

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Echo-PB-80...h=item214ac6fa5c:g:~TUAAOSwQrVbzyFs:rk:1:pf:0

Use coupon code PICKUPTEN for 10% off until tomorrow 8am for the discount.

Woo Hoo! :laughing::laughing:


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Darryl G

It's on sale at ebay for $566.99

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Echo-PB-80...h=item214ac6fa5c:g:~TUAAOSwQrVbzyFs:rk:1:pf:0

Use coupon code PICKUPTEN for 10% off until tomorrow 8am for the discount.

Woo Hoo! :laughing::laughing:

Not a bad deal. Better than the $1,100 one on Ebay for sure, lol. Local dealers near me sold out in a few days. Seems there was a sort of rationing with each dealer only receiving one pallet of 18 units and they're not expecting more any time soon. The Stihl dealer that I bought my chest strap from said they sold out of their shipment of the new BR800s in 2 days.


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Jason1

I called many dealers in my area and no one has it. They all told me in the spring. :thumbdown:

Whoever was able to get one is mighty lucky.


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Darryl G

This blower continues to impress me. I have just shy of 60 hours on it now. I run it without the lower tube a lot. It's not really necessary and the machine performs similarly without it. I find that it works best when you aim high and well ahead to move leaves and then scour what's left. Holding that long heavy tip up for 4 or 5 hours a day gets tiring. I can work with it in conditions that I normally wouldn't and it can do things easily that other blowers struggle with, such as blowing leaves out of Pachysandra. I don't think I provided that video link here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUkzlP6d5wA


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Boobala

Boobala

IF.. your sweetie, keeps you 1/2 as happy as THAT blower does, you're schittin in high-cotton, and you're one lucky man !! ..:thumbsup:..:laughing:


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Darryl G

Not even close. This blower almost makes leaf cleanups fun. The leaves all came down at once and it's been really wet. I would be hopelessly behind if not for this blower. It's like having a 10 HP wheeled blower on your back.


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Boobala

Boobala

Not even close. This blower almost makes leaf cleanups fun. The leaves all came down at once and it's been really wet. I would be hopelessly behind if not for this blower. It's like having a 10 HP wheeled blower on your back.

Better your sweetie doesn't see your post .... :laughing:..:laughing:..:laughing:..:laughing:


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Darryl G

Better your sweetie doesn't see your post .... :laughing:..:laughing:..:laughing:..:laughing:
I warmed her car up for her this morning. That's all that matters. :laughing:


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Darryl G

Update: My dealer says that the first batch of these blowers were made in Japan. They're gearing up to produce them in the USA. His distributor said that he has 18,000 units on order. That's 1000 pallets! Myself and all of my landscaper buddies in town who have them agree that they're a game changer for leaf cleanups and that having one salvaged a very difficult (wet) cleanup season.

I put over 100 hours on my unit without a single mechanical issue. That's a good start. It does take a little while to warm up in sub-freezing temperatures, longer than other blowers I own. I did check the air filter and knock out the pre-filter. Otherwise I haven't serviced it at all.

Did I mention this thing is LOUD? It's a bit too loud really. I recommend doubling up on hearing protection with plugs and over-the-ear protection if you're going to run it for extended periods of time at high throttle.

P.S. - Be careful when taking off and putting this unit down. The edges on the bottom of the frame hurt when you scrape/drop it against your lower legs.


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Jason1

I have a brand new Echo PB8010H for sale in the marketplace. Please message me if you're interested. :thumbsup:


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Darryl G

Update: 289 hours on my 8010T and all is still good. I have somewhat squashed the metal ring on the end of the tube several times but it's pretty easy to get back to round with just hand pressure. The tube handle kept sliding no matter how hard I cranked the thumb knob up so I just added a ring of tape to prevent it from moving. I have long arms and need it out as far as possible. Still on the original spark plug. I changed the fuel filter once after getting some water from the bottom of a gas can into the tank. It still starts within 2 pulls but is taking a little longer to warm up.


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Darryl G

Big thumbs up to Echo. They had a recall on the straps due to stitching coming undone. Mine were fine with 300 hours on the machine but they replaced them anyway. A week after getting those replaced I began having trouble with a kink staying in the flex portion of the pipe and they replaced the whole assembly with an updated one minus the lower tube. It's nice to see a company that stands behind their equipment and fixes known problems.


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