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ECHO VS HUSQVARNA
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boostedwolfe
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boostedwolfe
Hey guys, I am in the market for a blower and week wacker. I have done quite a bit of research but as I have found, I see people going back and forth with the Echo pb 500h vs Husqvarna 350bt discussion. Some people prefer Echo, some prefer Husky.
I would like to get something with great reliability and power also with a strong warranty. What do you guys think?
For a weed trimmer I had a horrible Ryobi that did not last over a year. I have been looking into the Echo SRM 225. Thoughts?
I would like to get something with great reliability and power also with a strong warranty. What do you guys think?
For a weed trimmer I had a horrible Ryobi that did not last over a year. I have been looking into the Echo SRM 225. Thoughts?
#2
OutdoorEnvy
OutdoorEnvy
I really like my SRM-225. It's a good piece of equipment IMO. I don't use a blower so no help there.
#3
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clay45
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clay45
Both great brands. Find the one you really like and then purchase the next most expensive one. You'll be glad you did.
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#4
Carscw
Carscw
Just get the ones that feel the best in your hands.
I use both and really don't think one is better then the other.
But my husky blower is 2 years old and always starts on the second pull. Never have to prime or choke it.
I use both and really don't think one is better then the other.
But my husky blower is 2 years old and always starts on the second pull. Never have to prime or choke it.
#5
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boostedwolfe
I just checked out Home Depot. Only $199 for the SRM-225
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boostedwolfe
I really like my SRM-225. It's a good piece of equipment IMO. I don't use a blower so no help there.
I just checked out Home Depot. Only $199 for the SRM-225
#6
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boostedwolfe
I see a lot about about the Husky having the waist strap that comes in handy.
I am going to have my mower looked at/tuned up because the power steering cable is broken and I will see if the guy will be willing to give me a deal on the Echo/Husky.
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boostedwolfe
Just get the ones that feel the best in your hands.
I use both and really don't think one is better then the other.
But my husky blower is 2 years old and always starts on the second pull. Never have to prime or choke it.
I see a lot about about the Husky having the waist strap that comes in handy.
I am going to have my mower looked at/tuned up because the power steering cable is broken and I will see if the guy will be willing to give me a deal on the Echo/Husky.
#7
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Rivets
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Rivets
Echo has a five year warranty on their equipment. No one else is close. Should be a no brainer vs Husqvarna.
#8
chevitz
chevitz
I bought a shindawa a few years ago, and have been very happy with it. before i bought it i asked a couple landscape crews (on their lunch break) what weedwacker was best, and they all said the shindawa's were the best. the guys i asked weren't the owners of the equipment, but the operators. that said they also had redmax whips, but said the shindawa was way more reliable. echo owns shindawa now, so i would lean that way.
#9
Carscw
I longer warranty does not make it better.
Carscw
Echo has a five year warranty on their equipment. No one else is close. Should be a no brainer vs Husqvarna.
I longer warranty does not make it better.
#10
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Rivets
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Rivets
You are correct, but it does mean that the company will stand behind their product longer. Echo has emerged as a leader in innovations in the market and we have found that the number which come in for repairs is less than any other brand. We sell Echo and Stihl, and in the past three years Echo is our top seller for that reason.
#11
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dhd
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dhd
We have an older Husqvarna trimmer and a newer Echo Pas 230 with about five attachments.
The Echo is our go to trimmer because of the quick attachment feature, I bought an extra line trimmer attachment,
so that when the line runs out, we can just remove and replace the trimmer attachment rather than reload string while we're in the middle of a trimming job.
Save the string reloading for a rainy day. We also got a blade attachment for light brush and heavy weeds, the chain saw extension, for tree limb trimming.
Looking to get the paddle sweeper attachment next to take care of the gravel in the grass from the winter's snow removal.
The ability to change out attachments rather than being stuck with just a trimmer, makes our Echo PAS 230 a much more valuable tool.
The Echo is our go to trimmer because of the quick attachment feature, I bought an extra line trimmer attachment,
so that when the line runs out, we can just remove and replace the trimmer attachment rather than reload string while we're in the middle of a trimming job.
Save the string reloading for a rainy day. We also got a blade attachment for light brush and heavy weeds, the chain saw extension, for tree limb trimming.
Looking to get the paddle sweeper attachment next to take care of the gravel in the grass from the winter's snow removal.
The ability to change out attachments rather than being stuck with just a trimmer, makes our Echo PAS 230 a much more valuable tool.
#12
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boostedwolfe
Sounds like you have used Echo for a long time with little to no problems and if there were problems, Echo stands behind their products longer.
Where is your place located?
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boostedwolfe
You are correct, but it does mean that the company will stand behind their product longer. Echo has emerged as a leader in innovations in the market and we have found that the number which come in for repairs is less than any other brand. We sell Echo and Stihl, and in the past three years Echo is our top seller for that reason.
Sounds like you have used Echo for a long time with little to no problems and if there were problems, Echo stands behind their products longer.
Where is your place located?
#13
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boostedwolfe
So instead of the SRM 225 you think I should push for the Pas 230 because it is a little more versatile with attachments?
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boostedwolfe
We have an older Husqvarna trimmer and a newer Echo Pas 230 with about five attachments.
The Echo is our go to trimmer because of the quick attachment feature, I bought an extra line trimmer attachment,
so that when the line runs out, we can just remove and replace the trimmer attachment rather than reload string while we're in the middle of a trimming job.
Save the string reloading for a rainy day. We also got a blade attachment for light brush and heavy weeds, the chain saw extension, for tree limb trimming.
Looking to get the paddle sweeper attachment next to take care of the gravel in the grass from the winter's snow removal.
The ability to change out attachments rather than being stuck with just a trimmer, makes our Echo PAS 230 a much more valuable tool.
So instead of the SRM 225 you think I should push for the Pas 230 because it is a little more versatile with attachments?
#14
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dhd
I don't know what your situation or needs are for a trimmer or other attachments.
For my situation the Echo PAS solved a big complaint I had with my older Husqvarna trimmer.
With my old Husqvarna trimmer, I could either run the trimmer head or a brush blade head, but to swap them out, it would take me about 15-20 minutes, and it always seems like the wrong head was installed when ever I was ready to use the Husqvarna. At times my wife might want to use the Husqvarna, and swapping trimmer heads was too complicated for her.
With the Echo PAS my wife can swap out an attachment in less than a minute. I have 3 trimmer heads, two loaded with the same size dia. line and one loaded with a much thinner dia. line.
The thinner line is used in an area around my in-laws modular home, it has plastic skirting that will damage easily if regular sized trimmer line is used.
The two heads loaded with the same size line is just so we never have to worry about loading new trimmer line during our trimming operation, just change out the attachment. We also have a brush blade head if the heavier trimmer line is too light for some trimming operations we may encounter.
The ProPruner (chainsaw on a pole) was an attachment I wasn't sure I'd use much, and I certainly did not want to purchase an expensive dedicated ProPruner with it's own power-head. The ProPrune attachment has worked out perfectly for us, we use it ever year, but only 2-3 times during that year. So an attachment made more sense than having dedicated ProPruner with it's own power-head (motor) to maintain.
Before I got my Echo PAS, I familiarize myself with all the possible attachments I thought I might use. I then selected a power head that could handle those attachments.
During the time frame I was looking at the Echo PAS, some of the attachments were not recommended for some of the smaller PAS power heads.
It seemed like the PAS 230 could handle all the available attachments I might be interested in at the time.
Another nice feature to consider. If an attachment ever becomes inoperable, that fairly inexpensive attachment is all you need to replace. Or if the power-head ever fails, a new replacement power-head with work with all of the attachments that you already possess.
I recommend to familiarize yourself with the different attachments available for the PAS and determine if you can justify more than just the one trimmer attachment.
If you can, than I'd be incline to say yes in regards to your question.
Instead of the SRM 225 I think you should push for the PAS because it is more versatile with attachments.
Edit.... I just noticed in your first post you mentioned you were looking for a blower also. One of the available Echo PAS attachments is a blower.
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dhd
So instead of the SRM 225 you think I should push for the Pas 230 because it is a little more versatile with attachments?
I don't know what your situation or needs are for a trimmer or other attachments.
For my situation the Echo PAS solved a big complaint I had with my older Husqvarna trimmer.
With my old Husqvarna trimmer, I could either run the trimmer head or a brush blade head, but to swap them out, it would take me about 15-20 minutes, and it always seems like the wrong head was installed when ever I was ready to use the Husqvarna. At times my wife might want to use the Husqvarna, and swapping trimmer heads was too complicated for her.
With the Echo PAS my wife can swap out an attachment in less than a minute. I have 3 trimmer heads, two loaded with the same size dia. line and one loaded with a much thinner dia. line.
The thinner line is used in an area around my in-laws modular home, it has plastic skirting that will damage easily if regular sized trimmer line is used.
The two heads loaded with the same size line is just so we never have to worry about loading new trimmer line during our trimming operation, just change out the attachment. We also have a brush blade head if the heavier trimmer line is too light for some trimming operations we may encounter.
The ProPruner (chainsaw on a pole) was an attachment I wasn't sure I'd use much, and I certainly did not want to purchase an expensive dedicated ProPruner with it's own power-head. The ProPrune attachment has worked out perfectly for us, we use it ever year, but only 2-3 times during that year. So an attachment made more sense than having dedicated ProPruner with it's own power-head (motor) to maintain.
Before I got my Echo PAS, I familiarize myself with all the possible attachments I thought I might use. I then selected a power head that could handle those attachments.
During the time frame I was looking at the Echo PAS, some of the attachments were not recommended for some of the smaller PAS power heads.
It seemed like the PAS 230 could handle all the available attachments I might be interested in at the time.
Another nice feature to consider. If an attachment ever becomes inoperable, that fairly inexpensive attachment is all you need to replace. Or if the power-head ever fails, a new replacement power-head with work with all of the attachments that you already possess.
I recommend to familiarize yourself with the different attachments available for the PAS and determine if you can justify more than just the one trimmer attachment.
If you can, than I'd be incline to say yes in regards to your question.
Instead of the SRM 225 I think you should push for the PAS because it is more versatile with attachments.
Edit.... I just noticed in your first post you mentioned you were looking for a blower also. One of the available Echo PAS attachments is a blower.
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Dave1954
great weedeater best I ever owned including several sthils
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Dave1954
I just checked out Home Depot. Only $199 for the SRM-225
great weedeater best I ever owned including several sthils
#16
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boostedwolfe
I had a base Ryobi trimmer and it maybe worked for about 2 months before the thing died and it stopped working. Home Depot charged us $60 to fix it
Eventually after they kept saying I would need to keep putting more money in to fix it every two weeks, I said I was done ever using Ryobi.
I have a lot of brush in my yard, as well as rough spots where I need to wake the ground back up. I also have way too many leaves that I know what to do with. Another problem are the neighbor's trees that just grow over my fence and ruin the yard.
I think I might have to go with this model for the attachments. I like the idea of swapping them back and forth. Instead of me going out and buying all new tools, this would definitely help me out.
I am in between The Husky/Echo comparison battle presently. I might be siding with the Echo.
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boostedwolfe
I don't know what your situation or needs are for a trimmer or other attachments.
For my situation the Echo PAS solved a big complaint I had with my older Husqvarna trimmer.
With my old Husqvarna trimmer, I could either run the trimmer head or a brush blade head, but to swap them out, it would take me about 15-20 minutes, and it always seems like the wrong head was installed when ever I was ready to use the Husqvarna. At times my wife might want to use the Husqvarna, and swapping trimmer heads was too complicated for her.
With the Echo PAS my wife can swap out an attachment in less than a minute. I have 3 trimmer heads, two loaded with the same size dia. line and one loaded with a much thinner dia. line.
The thinner line is used in an area around my in-laws modular home, it has plastic skirting that will damage easily if regular sized trimmer line is used.
The two heads loaded with the same size line is just so we never have to worry about loading new trimmer line during our trimming operation, just change out the attachment. We also have a brush blade head if the heavier trimmer line is too light for some trimming operations we may encounter.
The ProPruner (chainsaw on a pole) was an attachment I wasn't sure I'd use much, and I certainly did not want to purchase an expensive dedicated ProPruner with it's own power-head. The ProPrune attachment has worked out perfectly for us, we use it ever year, but only 2-3 times during that year. So an attachment made more sense than having dedicated ProPruner with it's own power-head (motor) to maintain.
Before I got my Echo PAS, I familiarize myself with all the possible attachments I thought I might use. I then selected a power head that could handle those attachments.
During the time frame I was looking at the Echo PAS, some of the attachments were not recommended for some of the smaller PAS power heads.
It seemed like the PAS 230 could handle all the available attachments I might be interested in at the time.
Another nice feature to consider. If an attachment ever becomes inoperable, that fairly inexpensive attachment is all you need to replace. Or if the power-head ever fails, a new replacement power-head with work with all of the attachments that you already possess.
I recommend to familiarize yourself with the different attachments available for the PAS and determine if you can justify more than just the one trimmer attachment.
If you can, than I'd be incline to say yes in regards to your question.
Instead of the SRM 225 I think you should push for the PAS because it is more versatile with attachments.
Edit.... I just noticed in your first post you mentioned you were looking for a blower also. One of the available Echo PAS attachments is a blower.
I had a base Ryobi trimmer and it maybe worked for about 2 months before the thing died and it stopped working. Home Depot charged us $60 to fix it
Eventually after they kept saying I would need to keep putting more money in to fix it every two weeks, I said I was done ever using Ryobi.
I have a lot of brush in my yard, as well as rough spots where I need to wake the ground back up. I also have way too many leaves that I know what to do with. Another problem are the neighbor's trees that just grow over my fence and ruin the yard.
I think I might have to go with this model for the attachments. I like the idea of swapping them back and forth. Instead of me going out and buying all new tools, this would definitely help me out.
I am in between The Husky/Echo comparison battle presently. I might be siding with the Echo.
#17
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boostedwolfe
They have been having some great deals lately. Even the Blowers.
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boostedwolfe
great weedeater best I ever owned including several sthils
They have been having some great deals lately. Even the Blowers.
#18
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dhd
I believe Husqvarna and Stihl both have muti-purpose units similar to the Echo PAS.
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dhd
I had a base Ryobi trimmer and it maybe worked for about 2 months before the thing died and it stopped working. Home Depot charged us $60 to fix it
Eventually after they kept saying I would need to keep putting more money in to fix it every two weeks, I said I was done ever using Ryobi.
I have a lot of brush in my yard, as well as rough spots where I need to wake the ground back up. I also have way too many leaves that I know what to do with. Another problem are the neighbor's trees that just grow over my fence and ruin the yard.
I think I might have to go with this model for the attachments. I like the idea of swapping them back and forth. Instead of me going out and buying all new tools, this would definitely help me out.
I am in between The Husky/Echo comparison battle presently. I might be siding with the Echo.
I believe Husqvarna and Stihl both have muti-purpose units similar to the Echo PAS.
#19
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Rivets
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Rivets
East of the Mississippi, west of Lake Michigan, south of Lake Superior and north of the noisy state. Hope that narrows it down.
#20
Carscw
Carscw
The ryobi attachments will work on the husqvarna.
The echo is a little different.
The echo is a little different.
#21
Mike88se
Mike88se
I just bought a new Husqvarna 224L. I used to use an Echo Srm 210. I have nothing but good things to say about the Echo but I love the 224L. Light, quiet, power enough and starts easily on 1 pull. I also have a Shindy T270. Its a beast... when it is running. Hard to find carb parts and heavy. Stay away from Ryobi, Poulan, Weedeater etc and you'll be fine.
#22
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boostedwolfe
I learned my lesson once with Ryobi, never again :thumbdown:
So I have been seeing new ads for the PB-580H-T from Echo. Is that released yet and if so do I opt for that one?
I was looking on the Echo site at the PAS series. They have the PAS-225 Value Pack with the 21.2 cc motor that comes with the edger and trimmer for $299.99. How does that pair up against the PAS 230, just a cc difference?
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boostedwolfe
I just bought a new Husqvarna 224L. I used to use an Echo Srm 210. I have nothing but good things to say about the Echo but I love the 224L. Light, quiet, power enough and starts easily on 1 pull. I also have a Shindy T270. Its a beast... when it is running. Hard to find carb parts and heavy. Stay away from Ryobi, Poulan, Weedeater etc and you'll be fine.
I learned my lesson once with Ryobi, never again :thumbdown:
So I have been seeing new ads for the PB-580H-T from Echo. Is that released yet and if so do I opt for that one?
I was looking on the Echo site at the PAS series. They have the PAS-225 Value Pack with the 21.2 cc motor that comes with the edger and trimmer for $299.99. How does that pair up against the PAS 230, just a cc difference?
#23
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dhd
It's not just a cc difference, there is also what other Echo PAS attachments may be recommended for the PAS-225 compared to the PAS-230.
For instance the Pro Paddle, Pro Sweep, Pro Thatch and Straight Shaft Edger are recommended only for the PAS-230 and larger, at the present time.
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dhd
I learned my lesson once with Ryobi, never again :thumbdown:
So I have been seeing new ads for the PB-580H-T from Echo. Is that released yet and if so do I opt for that one?
I was looking on the Echo site at the PAS series. They have the PAS-225 Value Pack with the 21.2 cc motor that comes with the edger and trimmer for $299.99. How does that pair up against the PAS 230, just a cc difference?
It's not just a cc difference, there is also what other Echo PAS attachments may be recommended for the PAS-225 compared to the PAS-230.
For instance the Pro Paddle, Pro Sweep, Pro Thatch and Straight Shaft Edger are recommended only for the PAS-230 and larger, at the present time.
#24
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boostedwolfe
Ah I see the differences on the site now.. Sorry for being so difficult. I just want to get the best option for me. Before I ever buy anything, I get really extensive with research. I will most likely be purchasing tomorrow.
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boostedwolfe
It's not just a cc difference, there is also what other Echo PAS attachments may be recommended for the PAS-225 compared to the PAS-230.
For instance the Pro Paddle, Pro Sweep, Pro Thatch and Straight Shaft Edger are recommended only for the PAS-230 and larger, at the present time.
Ah I see the differences on the site now.. Sorry for being so difficult. I just want to get the best option for me. Before I ever buy anything, I get really extensive with research. I will most likely be purchasing tomorrow.
#25
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dhd
You're not being difficult.
I try and do a lot of research too, before purchasing.
I bought the PAS 230 rather than a smaller PAS thinking I may decide to get one of those more demanding attachments in the future, so far I've not gotten any.
Recently I thought I might get a Pro Paddle, but after researching I've decided against it. The Pro Paddle is $299 and at some point in time the rubber paddle assy. needs replacing which can run around $100. It's just not an attachment I'd use much.
So as it presently stands, I could have gotten the PAS 225 rather than the PAS 230 and probably been just as well off, but who knows what other attachments Echo may introduce in the future, and those few extra CCs probably does help a little when trimming becomes more demanding.
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dhd
Ah I see the differences on the site now.. Sorry for being so difficult. I just want to get the best option for me. Before I ever buy anything, I get really extensive with research. I will most likely be purchasing tomorrow.
You're not being difficult.
I try and do a lot of research too, before purchasing.
I bought the PAS 230 rather than a smaller PAS thinking I may decide to get one of those more demanding attachments in the future, so far I've not gotten any.
Recently I thought I might get a Pro Paddle, but after researching I've decided against it. The Pro Paddle is $299 and at some point in time the rubber paddle assy. needs replacing which can run around $100. It's just not an attachment I'd use much.
So as it presently stands, I could have gotten the PAS 225 rather than the PAS 230 and probably been just as well off, but who knows what other attachments Echo may introduce in the future, and those few extra CCs probably does help a little when trimming becomes more demanding.
:confused3:
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boostedwolfe
I am feeling like I might just have to side with you on this one. Although the PAS 225 VP would be good with the edger. They have some good attachments with that but if I do want to step up my game with it later, maybe I should just get the PAS230
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boostedwolfe
You're not being difficult.
I try and do a lot of research too, before purchasing.
I bought the PAS 230 rather than a smaller PAS thinking I may decide to get one of those more demanding attachments in the future, so far I've not gotten any.
Recently I thought I might get a Pro Paddle, but after researching I've decided against it. The Pro Paddle is $299 and at some point in time the rubber paddle assy. needs replacing which can run around $100. It's just not an attachment I'd use much.
So as it presently stands, I could have gotten the PAS 225 rather than the PAS 230 and probably been just as well off, but who knows what other attachments Echo may introduce in the future, and those few extra CCs probably does help a little when trimming becomes more demanding.
:confused3:
I am feeling like I might just have to side with you on this one. Although the PAS 225 VP would be good with the edger. They have some good attachments with that but if I do want to step up my game with it later, maybe I should just get the PAS230
#27
Mike88se
Mike88se
Doesn't sound like you're being difficult. Its a good idea to put some thought into this. I didn't read whether you shopping for homeowner personal use but I'm guessing you are. In that case the PAS sounds good. For small time pro I think it would be a nice backup for the individual machines. For everyday pro use all that swapping would get old and make me feel like I was burning precious time.
Also you didn't mention or I missed the size of your work area. A back pack blower may be great on leaf cleanups but I rarely do leaf cleanups and the ones I have done my Hitachi hand held has been up to the task.
I do large estates to patio homes and that little Hitachi has been more than sufficient. I have tried a used PB770 and a new BT150 and decided there wasn't any more advantage to them than to my Hitachi. And my Hitachi is light and handy. Pick it up, give it a pull or two and off I go. Just a thought.
Also you didn't mention or I missed the size of your work area. A back pack blower may be great on leaf cleanups but I rarely do leaf cleanups and the ones I have done my Hitachi hand held has been up to the task.
I do large estates to patio homes and that little Hitachi has been more than sufficient. I have tried a used PB770 and a new BT150 and decided there wasn't any more advantage to them than to my Hitachi. And my Hitachi is light and handy. Pick it up, give it a pull or two and off I go. Just a thought.
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boostedwolfe
I always put thought into everything before I make a purchase. It will be for homeowner personal use. I have about 3K square feet to myself, then help all the neighbors with their leaves etc. I have to do a ton of leaf clean ups.
I just used a Hitachi two days ago and it felt alright, just would like a backpack one. I have an electric one just like it, but I would rather not use it because of chord restrictions.
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boostedwolfe
Doesn't sound like you're being difficult. Its a good idea to put some thought into this. I didn't read whether you shopping for homeowner personal use but I'm guessing you are. In that case the PAS sounds good. For small time pro I think it would be a nice backup for the individual machines. For everyday pro use all that swapping would get old and make me feel like I was burning precious time.
Also you didn't mention or I missed the size of your work area. A back pack blower may be great on leaf cleanups but I rarely do leaf cleanups and the ones I have done my Hitachi hand held has been up to the task.
I do large estates to patio homes and that little Hitachi has been more than sufficient. I have tried a used PB770 and a new BT150 and decided there wasn't any more advantage to them than to my Hitachi. And my Hitachi is light and handy. Pick it up, give it a pull or two and off I go. Just a thought.
I always put thought into everything before I make a purchase. It will be for homeowner personal use. I have about 3K square feet to myself, then help all the neighbors with their leaves etc. I have to do a ton of leaf clean ups.
I just used a Hitachi two days ago and it felt alright, just would like a backpack one. I have an electric one just like it, but I would rather not use it because of chord restrictions.
#29
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boostedwolfe
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boostedwolfe
I contacted a few local dealers and of course they will not work with me on any prices/don't have the medium range equipment in stock. Was quoted $400 for trimmers when they are $259 at Home Depot. The PB500T is $299.99 free shipping but $319.99 in the store. I can wait a few days if I have to.
I think I am going to get the PB500T and then still a bit undecided about the trimmer. The PAS 230 (just the head) is $269.00 (22.8 cc). But the PAS 225VP the head with a trimmer/edger is $299.99 (21.2 cc). If I get the PAS 230, I will need to buy the trimmer/edger for another $160.00. (69.99 trimmer/ 89.99 edger, totaling the PAS230 with trimmer and edger at $429.00 which is a big difference from the PAS 225VP.
I think I am going to get the PB500T and then still a bit undecided about the trimmer. The PAS 230 (just the head) is $269.00 (22.8 cc). But the PAS 225VP the head with a trimmer/edger is $299.99 (21.2 cc). If I get the PAS 230, I will need to buy the trimmer/edger for another $160.00. (69.99 trimmer/ 89.99 edger, totaling the PAS230 with trimmer and edger at $429.00 which is a big difference from the PAS 225VP.
#30
Mike88se
Mike88se
Look around some more. Tyler Tools and CPO sometimes have great deals on blowers and trimmers. They don't sell Echo though so if you have your heart set on Echo thats not the place.
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dhd
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dhd
The price difference between the PAS 225 and PAS 230 does seem like a large amount, for just a small amount of engine size difference.
It would almost seem there was more than just cc size difference.
I did find out that the PAS 225 engine has one piston ring and the PAS 230 engine has two piston rings.
I have no idea if that's really significant or not.
I would think the PAS 225 is probably a tough enough machine, Echo gives it the same 5 year warranty length like all their other gear.
For average home use I would think the PAS 225 would probably provide just as good as service as the PAS 230.
The money you save by getting the PAS 225 could be used to get another attachment, which would probably be more useful than gaining a few extra engine CCs if you got the PAS 230.
I remember in an earlier post you said you like to research before purchasing,
so here are the latest parts manuals for the PAS 225 and PAS 230 in case you'd like to compare a little more.
PAS 225
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachme...8fb0-843d8e3e98fc/PAS-225es_T39914_041015.pdf
PAS 230
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachme...d54-7696d1b44982/PAS230es_S67711_070913_3.pdf
It would almost seem there was more than just cc size difference.
I did find out that the PAS 225 engine has one piston ring and the PAS 230 engine has two piston rings.
I have no idea if that's really significant or not.
I would think the PAS 225 is probably a tough enough machine, Echo gives it the same 5 year warranty length like all their other gear.
For average home use I would think the PAS 225 would probably provide just as good as service as the PAS 230.
The money you save by getting the PAS 225 could be used to get another attachment, which would probably be more useful than gaining a few extra engine CCs if you got the PAS 230.
I remember in an earlier post you said you like to research before purchasing,
so here are the latest parts manuals for the PAS 225 and PAS 230 in case you'd like to compare a little more.
PAS 225
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachme...8fb0-843d8e3e98fc/PAS-225es_T39914_041015.pdf
PAS 230
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachme...d54-7696d1b44982/PAS230es_S67711_070913_3.pdf
#32
jekjr
We are running a 500 back pack. We also have an 804 Shindiawa. I like the echo blower but I regret not getting something bigger than the 500 every time I start it up. I highly reccomend buying as big of a blower as your budget can stand. The bigger you get the more air you are going to get and there is a noticeable differance.
We have two PAS trimmers as well. We have a 225 and a 280. We have had some problems getting the 280 to run but the 225 has not missed a lick for us. When the 280 is running it is much of a man so to speak though. It will make an edge hum where as the 225 is not that strong. I find the 225 to work excellent with the pole saw and even the hedge trimmers. It depends on what you are cutting with the string trimmer head as to how good it cuts. Light trimming ahead of the mowers on a yard well kept it does great. Heavy trimming it lacks a little in power.
jekjr
I contacted a few local dealers and of course they will not work with me on any prices/don't have the medium range equipment in stock. Was quoted $400 for trimmers when they are $259 at Home Depot. The PB500T is $299.99 free shipping but $319.99 in the store. I can wait a few days if I have to. I think I am going to get the PB500T and then still a bit undecided about the trimmer. The PAS 230 (just the head) is $269.00 (22.8 cc). But the PAS 225VP the head with a trimmer/edger is $299.99 (21.2 cc). If I get the PAS 230, I will need to buy the trimmer/edger for another $160.00. (69.99 trimmer/ 89.99 edger, totaling the PAS230 with trimmer and edger at $429.00 which is a big difference from the PAS 225VP.
We are running a 500 back pack. We also have an 804 Shindiawa. I like the echo blower but I regret not getting something bigger than the 500 every time I start it up. I highly reccomend buying as big of a blower as your budget can stand. The bigger you get the more air you are going to get and there is a noticeable differance.
We have two PAS trimmers as well. We have a 225 and a 280. We have had some problems getting the 280 to run but the 225 has not missed a lick for us. When the 280 is running it is much of a man so to speak though. It will make an edge hum where as the 225 is not that strong. I find the 225 to work excellent with the pole saw and even the hedge trimmers. It depends on what you are cutting with the string trimmer head as to how good it cuts. Light trimming ahead of the mowers on a yard well kept it does great. Heavy trimming it lacks a little in power.
#33
jekjr
Also... I use my local dealer. So far they have gone over and beyond to help me. The few dollars you are buying from a big box store can bite you in the butt if you have issues. A good local dealer is a very hard thing to beat when it comes to equipment. There are too many easing to list to buy from them instead of big box stores or mail order houses.
jekjr
I contacted a few local dealers and of course they will not work with me on any prices/don't have the medium range equipment in stock. Was quoted $400 for trimmers when they are $259 at Home Depot. The PB500T is $299.99 free shipping but $319.99 in the store. I can wait a few days if I have to. I think I am going to get the PB500T and then still a bit undecided about the trimmer. The PAS 230 (just the head) is $269.00 (22.8 cc). But the PAS 225VP the head with a trimmer/edger is $299.99 (21.2 cc). If I get the PAS 230, I will need to buy the trimmer/edger for another $160.00. (69.99 trimmer/ 89.99 edger, totaling the PAS230 with trimmer and edger at $429.00 which is a big difference from the PAS 225VP.
Also... I use my local dealer. So far they have gone over and beyond to help me. The few dollars you are buying from a big box store can bite you in the butt if you have issues. A good local dealer is a very hard thing to beat when it comes to equipment. There are too many easing to list to buy from them instead of big box stores or mail order houses.
#34
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boostedwolfe
Totally agree. I definitely want to get a few more attachments for the PAS225 which will come in handy!
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boostedwolfe
The price difference between the PAS 225 and PAS 230 does seem like a large amount, for just a small amount of engine size difference.
It would almost seem there was more than just cc size difference.
I did find out that the PAS 225 engine has one piston ring and the PAS 230 engine has two piston rings.
I have no idea if that's really significant or not.
I would think the PAS 225 is probably a tough enough machine, Echo gives it the same 5 year warranty length like all their other gear.
For average home use I would think the PAS 225 would probably provide just as good as service as the PAS 230.
The money you save by getting the PAS 225 could be used to get another attachment, which would probably be more useful than gaining a few extra engine CCs if you got the PAS 230.
I remember in an earlier post you said you like to research before purchasing,
so here are the latest parts manuals for the PAS 225 and PAS 230 in case you'd like to compare a little more.
PAS 225
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachme...8fb0-843d8e3e98fc/PAS-225es_T39914_041015.pdf
PAS 230
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachme...d54-7696d1b44982/PAS230es_S67711_070913_3.pdf
Totally agree. I definitely want to get a few more attachments for the PAS225 which will come in handy!
#35
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boostedwolfe
Well guys,
Last week I picked up the PB 500T and it starts on the third pull almost every time. It seems pretty powerful for my property but the real test will be the fall when I have to get rid of my leaves (neighbors leaves)!
I just ordered the PAS225VP with the trimmer/edger combo and I cannot wait until it comes. I fixed my Toro mower this weekend by putting a new traction cable on with a set of new front wheels and a new blade.
Changed the oil and put a new air filter/spark plug and it starts up just fine! Will probably be mowing this week. Grass is coming in nicely!
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boostedwolfe
We are running a 500 back pack. We also have an 804 Shindiawa. I like the echo blower but I regret not getting something bigger than the 500 every time I start it up. I highly reccomend buying as big of a blower as your budget can stand. The bigger you get the more air you are going to get and there is a noticeable differance.
We have two PAS trimmers as well. We have a 225 and a 280. We have had some problems getting the 280 to run but the 225 has not missed a lick for us. When the 280 is running it is much of a man so to speak though. It will make an edge hum where as the 225 is not that strong. I find the 225 to work excellent with the pole saw and even the hedge trimmers. It depends on what you are cutting with the string trimmer head as to how good it cuts. Light trimming ahead of the mowers on a yard well kept it does great. Heavy trimming it lacks a little in power.
Well guys,
Last week I picked up the PB 500T and it starts on the third pull almost every time. It seems pretty powerful for my property but the real test will be the fall when I have to get rid of my leaves (neighbors leaves)!
I just ordered the PAS225VP with the trimmer/edger combo and I cannot wait until it comes. I fixed my Toro mower this weekend by putting a new traction cable on with a set of new front wheels and a new blade.
Changed the oil and put a new air filter/spark plug and it starts up just fine! Will probably be mowing this week. Grass is coming in nicely!
#36
jekjr
We have had good results with the PB 500T Blower. Ours is probably 10 months old now. If I had it to do over agin though I would get a larger one.
We also have a PAS 225. It does a great job with the trimmer. In most edging situations it does a good job. We found that on some situations it is a little small on power for the edger. We have the hedge trimmer and the pole saw also. The 225 does a great job with both of them. We also have a PAS 280. We use it on the edger most of the time when it is running.... We have not had good success with it as far as reliability. Today our dealer gave us a replacement for it in fact. The 280 power head will make the edger hum...........
jekjr
Well guys, Last week I picked up the PB 500T and it starts on the third pull almost every time. It seems pretty powerful for my property but the real test will be the fall when I have to get rid of my leaves (neighbors leaves)! I just ordered the PAS225VP with the trimmer/edger combo and I cannot wait until it comes. I fixed my Toro mower this weekend by putting a new traction cable on with a set of new front wheels and a new blade. Changed the oil and put a new air filter/spark plug and it starts up just fine! Will probably be mowing this week. Grass is coming in nicely!
We have had good results with the PB 500T Blower. Ours is probably 10 months old now. If I had it to do over agin though I would get a larger one.
We also have a PAS 225. It does a great job with the trimmer. In most edging situations it does a good job. We found that on some situations it is a little small on power for the edger. We have the hedge trimmer and the pole saw also. The 225 does a great job with both of them. We also have a PAS 280. We use it on the edger most of the time when it is running.... We have not had good success with it as far as reliability. Today our dealer gave us a replacement for it in fact. The 280 power head will make the edger hum...........
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boostedwolfe
If anything I could always sell the blower after the season and upgrade if I have to. We will see how the fall leaves match up against us this year. What size larger would you recommend?
You haven't had a lot of success with the 280 or the edger attachment? I am waiting for it to be shipped to me. Home Depot's site is taking forever to update. I contacted customer service and they said it
will be shipping from California and I might have it next week. Looking to have my first mow this weekend so the edger would be nice for that. If you miss edging the initial first times, you can be set back a decent amount.
I want to have some sort of control over the lawn. I really want it to be the greenest on the block and I have all the materials but being the greenest will be nothing without some order and appearance aesthetics.
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boostedwolfe
We have had good results with the PB 500T Blower. Ours is probably 10 months old now. If I had it to do over agin though I would get a larger one.
We also have a PAS 225. It does a great job with the trimmer. In most edging situations it does a good job. We found that on some situations it is a little small on power for the edger. We have the hedge trimmer and the pole saw also. The 225 does a great job with both of them. We also have a PAS 280. We use it on the edger most of the time when it is running.... We have not had good success with it as far as reliability. Today our dealer gave us a replacement for it in fact. The 280 power head will make the edger hum...........
If anything I could always sell the blower after the season and upgrade if I have to. We will see how the fall leaves match up against us this year. What size larger would you recommend?
You haven't had a lot of success with the 280 or the edger attachment? I am waiting for it to be shipped to me. Home Depot's site is taking forever to update. I contacted customer service and they said it
will be shipping from California and I might have it next week. Looking to have my first mow this weekend so the edger would be nice for that. If you miss edging the initial first times, you can be set back a decent amount.
I want to have some sort of control over the lawn. I really want it to be the greenest on the block and I have all the materials but being the greenest will be nothing without some order and appearance aesthetics.
#38
jekjr
Our PAS 280 trimmer has had problems for a while. Numerous trips to the shop. Just got a replacement yesterday. That one ran great today.
jekjr
I would not say the 225 is bad with the edger. It just lacks the power to run it the way we sometimes need to. We do a lot of edging at times. The 280 does a better job for us. It is strong. I am not sure which Echo blower to recommend. The bigger the better I imagine. We have an 804 Shindiawa. It does an awesome job. A 7?? Something Echo is the largest echo I have seen at a local dealer. I forget the numbers just know bigger than 700.If anything I could always sell the blower after the season and upgrade if I have to. We will see how the fall leaves match up against us this year. What size larger would you recommend? You haven't had a lot of success with the 280 or the edger attachment? I am waiting for it to be shipped to me. Home Depot's site is taking forever to update. I contacted customer service and they said it will be shipping from California and I might have it next week. Looking to have my first mow this weekend so the edger would be nice for that. If you miss edging the initial first times, you can be set back a decent amount. I want to have some sort of control over the lawn. I really want it to be the greenest on the block and I have all the materials but being the greenest will be nothing without some order and appearance aesthetics.
Our PAS 280 trimmer has had problems for a while. Numerous trips to the shop. Just got a replacement yesterday. That one ran great today.