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Echo srm225 only 6mths old won't start
#1
C
Choochoo
C
Choochoo
Hello everyone.
I have an echo arm 225 thats only 6mts old and has been used sparingly because of winter. Now the last 2 times I used it it would not start till i used starting fluid and pulled the string till I had blisters. Now today it won't even stay running after using the starting fluid. Before, once it got started it ran like a champ. Now it will just kick over and die. I have had 3 other echoes that have had no problems and I used them till they just died. But this new one sucks!! Any suggestions?
I have an echo arm 225 thats only 6mts old and has been used sparingly because of winter. Now the last 2 times I used it it would not start till i used starting fluid and pulled the string till I had blisters. Now today it won't even stay running after using the starting fluid. Before, once it got started it ran like a champ. Now it will just kick over and die. I have had 3 other echoes that have had no problems and I used them till they just died. But this new one sucks!! Any suggestions?
#2
Ric
Echo makes a kit that contains spark plug, fuel filter, air filter fuel lines and all, install the kit and see what happens. Have you pulled the spark plug to see what it looks like, it may just need to be cleaned up and re-gaped. The other alternative would be to take the thing back if it's only 6 months old and get your money back.
Ric
Hello everyone.
I have an echo arm 225 thats only 6mts old and has been used sparingly because of winter. Now the last 2 times I used it it would not start till i used starting fluid and pulled the string till I had blisters. Now today it won't even stay running after using the starting fluid. Before, once it got started it ran like a champ. Now it will just kick over and die. I have had 3 other echoes that have had no problems and I used them till they just died. But this new one sucks!! Any suggestions?
Echo makes a kit that contains spark plug, fuel filter, air filter fuel lines and all, install the kit and see what happens. Have you pulled the spark plug to see what it looks like, it may just need to be cleaned up and re-gaped. The other alternative would be to take the thing back if it's only 6 months old and get your money back.
#3
FloGro
FloGro
Rebuild the carb
#4
C
Choochoo
C
Choochoo
Well thank you both for the posts but to have to do things like the replacement accessory kit or even rebuild the carburetor on a 6mth machine is ludicrous! Especially on one that has been used only 4 to 5 times!! I do appreciate the feedback! Time to contact echo!!
#5
Ric
The kit was just an alternative, Where did you buy the unit? I'd just take it back and either get my money back or a replacement and I'd definitely let Echo know.
Ric
Well thank you both for the posts but to have to do things like the replacement accessory kit or even rebuild the carburetor on a 6mth machine is ludicrous! Especially on one that has been used only 4 to 5 times!! I do appreciate the feedback! Time to contact echo!!
The kit was just an alternative, Where did you buy the unit? I'd just take it back and either get my money back or a replacement and I'd definitely let Echo know.
#6
exotion
... You let it sit with gas for to long the carb is gummed up. Not echos fault it is yours. It is however probably still under warranty. Get it fixed and take better care of it...
exotion
Well thank you both for the posts but to have to do things like the replacement accessory kit or even rebuild the carburetor on a 6mth machine is ludicrous! Especially on one that has been used only 4 to 5 times!! I do appreciate the feedback! Time to contact echo!!
... You let it sit with gas for to long the carb is gummed up. Not echos fault it is yours. It is however probably still under warranty. Get it fixed and take better care of it...
#7
C
Choochoo
C
Choochoo
#1 Exotion you have no clue what your talking about because after each use that I used it during the winter I removed the gas and ran it dry!!! I do know a few things!!! I have had echo brand trimmers for 22 yrs!! So please don't jump to conclusions and say "IT'S MY FAULT"!! Next time if you would like more info just ask!!
#8
exotion
exotion
Either way I would look to the carb as the culprit. Sorry for offending. It's still under warranty take it to the dealer and ask them why it happened some won't tell you unless you ask
#9
exotion
Also I am sorry I see people trying to blame the companies all the time. Even years after the original purchase people won't the company to honor the product and pay for all repairs I've seen it a lot lately here and took it out on you. Again apologies
exotion
#1 Exotion you have no clue what your talking about because after each use that I used it during the winter I removed the gas and ran it dry!!! I do know a few things!!! I have had echo brand trimmers for 22 yrs!! So please don't jump to conclusions and say "IT'S MY FAULT"!! Next time if you would like more info just ask!!
Also I am sorry I see people trying to blame the companies all the time. Even years after the original purchase people won't the company to honor the product and pay for all repairs I've seen it a lot lately here and took it out on you. Again apologies
#10
Carscw
Maybe you did drain the gas but you have a fuel delivery problem. Would be a gummed up carb or filter.
Carscw
#1 Exotion you have no clue what your talking about because after each use that I used it during the winter I removed the gas and ran it dry!!! I do know a few things!!! I have had echo brand trimmers for 22 yrs!! So please don't jump to conclusions and say "IT'S MY FAULT"!! Next time if you would like more info just ask!!
Maybe you did drain the gas but you have a fuel delivery problem. Would be a gummed up carb or filter.
#11
Carscw
Carscw
What do you do with the gas you take out of the trimmer?
#12
C
Choochoo
C
Choochoo
Thank you all!!! I am bringing it to a licensed dealer to have it looked at. I appreciate all the suggestions!
#14
Mower Doctor 78006
Mower Doctor 78006
Iam 99% sure that the problem is fuel related. Old gas doesn't burn!! If you dumped the gas out and kept it in your can and 6 months later tried to use it........... Buy fresh gas from the pump, mix with 2 stroke oil. Make sure trimmer has no fuel left in it. I guarantee that's where your problem is. If you drained all the fuel out and ran it dry, there shouldn't be a need to clean, kit, install new carb. Most people don't know that old fuel is bad!! 30 days is the max from pump to can. Throw it away. I have owned and worked on echo's for 15 years. There great machines.
#15
C
Choochoo
Thank you. I do agree they are great products. I have owned a total of 4 trimmers from echo in the past 22yrs. I'm figuring if this is the problem it's because of the ethonal in the fuel. I know this has a tendency to gum up.
C
Choochoo
Iam 99% sure that the problem is fuel related. Old gas doesn't burn!! If you dumped the gas out and kept it in your can and 6 months later tried to use it........... Buy fresh gas from the pump, mix with 2 stroke oil. Make sure trimmer has no fuel left in it. I guarantee that's where your problem is. If you drained all the fuel out and ran it dry, there shouldn't be a need to clean, kit, install new carb. Most people don't know that old fuel is bad!! 30 days is the max from pump to can. Throw it away. I have owned and worked on echo's for 15 years. There great machines.
Thank you. I do agree they are great products. I have owned a total of 4 trimmers from echo in the past 22yrs. I'm figuring if this is the problem it's because of the ethonal in the fuel. I know this has a tendency to gum up.
#16
Ric
My apology's, I'm not trying to Hi-Jack the thread.......You can't blame it on old gas. Gasoline doesn't really go bad if you leave it unused for a period of time. That's just another urban legend, people who worry about "old gas" and spend money on fuel stabilizer are wasting psychic energy as well as cash. The fact is old gas does burn. Yes gas will lose some of its volatility over time which means it doesn't burn as well but that doesn't mean its bad. You tell people that gas isn't any good after 30 days max from pump to can which is crazy when the fact is you don't even know how old the gas is when you buy it, it could set in the tanks at the gas station that long or longer before it's sold. You should never throw gas away, Just add to it just like the service stations do.
Ric
Iam 99% sure that the problem is fuel related. Old gas doesn't burn!! If you dumped the gas out and kept it in your can and 6 months later tried to use it........... Buy fresh gas from the pump, mix with 2 stroke oil. Make sure trimmer has no fuel left in it. I guarantee that's where your problem is. If you drained all the fuel out and ran it dry, there shouldn't be a need to clean, kit, install new carb. Most people don't know that old fuel is bad!! 30 days is the max from pump to can. Throw it away. I have owned and worked on echo's for 15 years. There great machines.
My apology's, I'm not trying to Hi-Jack the thread.......You can't blame it on old gas. Gasoline doesn't really go bad if you leave it unused for a period of time. That's just another urban legend, people who worry about "old gas" and spend money on fuel stabilizer are wasting psychic energy as well as cash. The fact is old gas does burn. Yes gas will lose some of its volatility over time which means it doesn't burn as well but that doesn't mean its bad. You tell people that gas isn't any good after 30 days max from pump to can which is crazy when the fact is you don't even know how old the gas is when you buy it, it could set in the tanks at the gas station that long or longer before it's sold. You should never throw gas away, Just add to it just like the service stations do.
#17
exotion
exotion
Probably should not argue this topic again....
Whatever happened its fuel related he says he uses the fuel in his chain saw. Runs his trimmer empty every time. Perhaps this practice dried out some rubber parts in the carb. Or a small amount of fuel oil mix(a lot of 2cycle oil uses fuel stabilizer) maybe the oil dried and clogged something. In all cases the carb needs cleaned, rebuilt, or possibly replaced.
I would find out why it happened if something dried out keep fuel in it. Or whatever...
Whatever happened its fuel related he says he uses the fuel in his chain saw. Runs his trimmer empty every time. Perhaps this practice dried out some rubber parts in the carb. Or a small amount of fuel oil mix(a lot of 2cycle oil uses fuel stabilizer) maybe the oil dried and clogged something. In all cases the carb needs cleaned, rebuilt, or possibly replaced.
I would find out why it happened if something dried out keep fuel in it. Or whatever...
#18
Ric
I'm not going to argue the topic, I don't have too. There have been to many articles wrote by different people and firms alike to prove what I said is correct. The shelf life of gasoline depends on the type of gas and the storage conditions and can range from a couple months to a couple years. One wild card is that gas you buy at the pump may already have been in storage for anywhere from days to months.
If the or his problem is fuel related it's easy to check all he has to do is try and start the engine, choke it, crank it half a dozen times and if it doesn't start pull the plug and see if it's soaked with gas. If the plug is wet he is getting gas and it's not a fuel related problem unless his mixture is wrong.
Check all your electrical connections, change the gas filter, change the two air filters and clean the spark arresting screen and a new plug first before you start tearing into the carb. Simple things first.
I've been on this forum basically since it started and I seen a lot of threads about people having problems with Trimmers, Edgers and alike and it seems that the greatest majority of the problems ( not All) with this equipment not working have something in common and that's the use of fuel stabilizers, seems like to me the people who use that stuff are the ones always having problems???
Ric
Probably should not argue this topic again....
Whatever happened its fuel related he says he uses the fuel in his chain saw. Runs his trimmer empty every time. Perhaps this practice dried out some rubber parts in the carb. Or a small amount of fuel oil mix(a lot of 2cycle oil uses fuel stabilizer) maybe the oil dried and clogged something. In all cases the carb needs cleaned, rebuilt, or possibly replaced.
I would find out why it happened if something dried out keep fuel in it. Or whatever...
I'm not going to argue the topic, I don't have too. There have been to many articles wrote by different people and firms alike to prove what I said is correct. The shelf life of gasoline depends on the type of gas and the storage conditions and can range from a couple months to a couple years. One wild card is that gas you buy at the pump may already have been in storage for anywhere from days to months.
If the or his problem is fuel related it's easy to check all he has to do is try and start the engine, choke it, crank it half a dozen times and if it doesn't start pull the plug and see if it's soaked with gas. If the plug is wet he is getting gas and it's not a fuel related problem unless his mixture is wrong.
Check all your electrical connections, change the gas filter, change the two air filters and clean the spark arresting screen and a new plug first before you start tearing into the carb. Simple things first.
I've been on this forum basically since it started and I seen a lot of threads about people having problems with Trimmers, Edgers and alike and it seems that the greatest majority of the problems ( not All) with this equipment not working have something in common and that's the use of fuel stabilizers, seems like to me the people who use that stuff are the ones always having problems???
#19
Carscw
I have to agree. I think all the fuel additives that people put in their gas is the reason they have problems with their equipment running.
When I joined a couple years ago I fell for it even tho I was not having any problems with my equipment. I read on here that you need to use a fuel stabilizer.
About a month after I started using it my wife's says you know we never had any problems starting this trimmer until you started putting that crap in the gas.
I do not store gas I was it the same or next day. I do have mowers and some 2 stroke handheld. That will sit with gas in them for a couple months and start and run just fine.
Think about this they add 10% ethanol to the gas then you add some crap to counter react with the ethanol. So how much pure gas is left?
Carscw
I'm not going to argue the topic, I don't have too. There have been to many articles wrote by different people and firms alike to prove what I said is correct. The shelf life of gasoline depends on the type of gas and the storage conditions and can range from a couple months to a couple years. One wild card is that gas you buy at the pump may already have been in storage for anywhere from days to months. If the or his problem is fuel related it's easy to check all he has to do is try and start the engine, choke it, crank it half a dozen times and if it doesn't start pull the plug and see if it's soaked with gas. If the plug is wet he is getting gas and it's not a fuel related problem unless his mixture is wrong. Check all your electrical connections, change the gas filter, change the two air filters and clean the spark arresting screen and a new plug first before you start tearing into the carb. Simple things first. I've been on this forum basically since it started and I seen a lot of threads about people having problems with Trimmers, Edgers and alike and it seems that the greatest majority of the problems ( not All) with this equipment not working have something in common and that's the use of fuel stabilizers, seems like to me the people who use that stuff are the ones always having problems???
I have to agree. I think all the fuel additives that people put in their gas is the reason they have problems with their equipment running.
When I joined a couple years ago I fell for it even tho I was not having any problems with my equipment. I read on here that you need to use a fuel stabilizer.
About a month after I started using it my wife's says you know we never had any problems starting this trimmer until you started putting that crap in the gas.
I do not store gas I was it the same or next day. I do have mowers and some 2 stroke handheld. That will sit with gas in them for a couple months and start and run just fine.
Think about this they add 10% ethanol to the gas then you add some crap to counter react with the ethanol. So how much pure gas is left?
#20
C
Choochoo
C
Choochoo
Ok fellas,
The verdict is in and it was a broken needle spring..Don't ask cause I don't know! lol But she runs fine now!! Thanks for all y'all's input!!!
The verdict is in and it was a broken needle spring..Don't ask cause I don't know! lol But she runs fine now!! Thanks for all y'all's input!!!
#21
exotion
Interesting. Wonder how that happened
exotion
Ok fellas,
The verdict is in and it was a broken needle spring..Don't ask cause I don't know! lol But she runs fine now!! Thanks for all y'all's input!!!
Interesting. Wonder how that happened