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Cutting deck problem

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Bange

Murray 42L18G60X8A

When I bought this lawn mower, the platform was disassembled, with dents, some tears, broken cable and with rumbling bearings. I noticed some differences between the current platform and the one in the Murray manual (basically in the part of the brake set)
I recovered all the defects, redid some screws and fixed holes with excessive clearance (in the suspension arms) and installed it on the tractor, but there is a problem that I haven't been able to solve yet.

low platform photo Level 1.1.jpg

high platform photoLevel 5.1.jpg

See the distance from the platform to the wooden stump ... in photo 1, the selected height is 1 and in photo 2 the selected height is 5.
It is noticed that it does not rise in the perfect vertical and this affects the tension of the belt and causes the blades to be activated from height 3 onwards, even without activating the coupling lever.
As there are grotesque welds on the fixing brackets, it is possible that the set is not in its correct geometry or has been modified.
Questions:
1 - Is it normal for the platform to go up or down without being perfectly vertical?
2 - It is possible that this difference is compensated for by the adjustment of the cable (not original).
3 - What is the correct measurement of the belt? The one that is installed is A-93.
4 - In normal situation, does the platform have any game (swing) or is it rigid anywhere?

Grateful for any help


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bertsmobile1

The front mount is too short.
Very common for the mounting brackets to have excessive wear or even been bent backwards.
Check the anchor bracket, listed 70 in the diagram beow
People who consistantly run into things with the deck end up bending it backwards
Solution is to put a big shifer on it and bend it forward
front drag link anchor plate

To check if this is the problem put some spacers between the nut & the cone on the front drag link part 98 in the diagram below
This deck lift is not the best idea on the planet and when I level the blades I have to do it mid height because the deck tilts down at the highest position & tilts up at the lowest .
drag link


#3

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Bange

My friend, my English is terrible and I use Google for translation ... nicknames or expressions have no translation. I think your numerical references are from the manual I attached ... could you confirm and explain in other words the meaning of "The solution is to put a big shifer on it and fold it forward front drag link anchor plate"? I imagine it is the "arm suspension" (6) in the manual .... is that it? Do you have an answer to questions 3 and 4? Tks

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bertsmobile1

The part shown as number 70 in the first diagram gets bent towards the back of the mower during use
So some times it needs to be bent towards the front to put it in the right place.

The drag link , part numbered 98 in the second diagram has a thread on the front to make it shorter which lifts the front of the deck higher and also causes the belt to be a little looser .This should stop the blades engaging when you raise the deck, .
At the end of the drag link are 2 parts, not given numbers because you have to buy them as a set.
The bit that presses against part 70 is a cone and behind it is the nut
the limit to how far you can pull the drag link forward is the clip ( number 98 ).
So if putting spacers between the but & the cone does not move the drag link far enough forward to make the blades level to the ground then the bracket ( part 70 ) will need to be bent.

I use a 24 inch long shifting spannar , also called a Monkey Wrench or adjustable spannar


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Bange

Okay, in fact the part 70 is slightly tilted backwards (+ -95 °) ... do I adjust it to 90 ° or less?
As for piece 98, it already has the cone, a long spacer (+ - 5cm) and then the adjustment nut.
From what you say, whenever I adjust the height of the deck, there is a need for a touch-up on piece 98 to keep the deck as horizontal as possible ... correct?


#6

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Bange

...
This deck lift is not the best idea on the planet and when I level the blades I have to do it mid height because the deck tilts down at the highest position & tilts up at the lowest .
drag link...
What do you say about deck is valid for everyone or is there one that is better?


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bertsmobile1

Okay, in fact the part 70 is slightly tilted backwards (+ -95 °) ... do I adjust it to 90 ° or less?
As for piece 98, it already has the cone, a long spacer (+ - 5cm) and then the adjustment nut.
From what you say, whenever I adjust the height of the deck, there is a need for a touch-up on piece 98 to keep the deck as horizontal as possible ... correct?
IT should point slightly forward so we can call it 80 to 85 the way you are measuring.
Not needed to be exact but it has less chance of bending back if it is bent forward to start with
Some times I take them off & turn the bracket around.
Some you can do it & some you can not do it .
Originally there was just the cone & 2 nuts , one to adjust it and the other to lock
I think you mean a 5mm spacer ( 1/4" ) ant 5 cm which is about the full length of the thread.
That rod need s to be adjusted to keep the BLADES as close to horizontal as possible at all cutting heights .
To work best the front of the blades should be about 1/4" lower than the back.
The blades might not be parallel to the bottom of the deck so you must measure from the blades


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bertsmobile1

What do you say about deck is valid for everyone or is there one that is better?
Every deck that uses a drag link at the front will move in an arc as it is raised & lowered
To move parallel the deck needs to hang of 4 rods which is how it was done 30 years ago
But that was complicated and used a lot of parts which made it expensive.
So to make decks cheaper they went to 3 point mounting


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Bange

Perfect, that was also my conclusion about this deck ... (I don't know others)
Has anyone tried to put an arm (6) longer?
This would soften the arc made when going up and down the deck.
Putting in Sketchup, the best position of the arm in the part fixed on the chassis is aligned with the motor shaft pulley .... but the brake / clutch shaft can get in the way a little ...


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slomo

Every deck that uses a drag link at the front will move in an arc as it is raised & lowered
To move parallel the deck needs to hang of 4 rods which is how it was done 30 years ago
But that was complicated and used a lot of parts which made it expensive.
So to make decks cheaper they went to 3 point mounting
Right, cheaper not better.

slomo


#11

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Bange

What are these parts for? Any other decks or implements?

Level 1 dúvida.jpg


#12

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Bange

Well folks, I managed to solve the problem ... many will not like it because original pieces were not used, but it is the most viable solution for a set that has already been sacrificed, crooked and sure outside the original geometry.
Steps:
1 - 3cm increase in the Link Asm Lift FXD (101)
2 - inversion of the Bracket Deck Susp. Front (70)
3 - the Link Lift Susp connection flap has been dented. Front Mower (98), was very crooked.
4 - Changing the Manual Clutch Cable w / Spr (only the cable not the cover) and making another termination for regulation.

The simple inversion of the 70 did not have any positive effect.
Before the modification, it was very hard to select level 5, as the arms hit the bodywork.
After the modifications and adjustments, the deck continued to vary according to the level, but less than previously and the adjustment of the cable length was essential.

101
Peça 101.1.jpg
78 and 90
Peça 70 e 98.1.jpg
Croocked flap
Aba torta.1.1.jpg

end cable
Terminação do cabo de acionar o deck 1.1.jpg
Terminação do cabo de acionar o deck 2.1.jpg

final
Obs.: deck without knives


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slomo

Be careful running that deck by carpets, outdoor rugs and the like. My Snapper sucked up the wife's outdoor rug with a mulching blade on. I got scolded that day LOL.

slomo


#14

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Bange

Thanks for the warning, my blades are not yet installed, as I see the best way to sharpen them.
The cloth that appears is just not to get dirty when lying on the floor...?


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Bange

Speaking of blades ... what is the speed (of blades) recommended for a good cut? Is there any type of table for the type of grass?


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