just to let everyone know the mower is running,the problem was the choke was not set properly ,when I had the panel that covers the gas tank removed I disconnected the choke lever from the panel.So the lever wasn't pushed all the way when I was trying to start. Sorry for dragging you guys into my headache which was caused by my own doing.My other beef about this machine is he muffer .The mower is so loud is there a way that I can maybe install a second muffler or something or is this a question for another thread .Thanks ,Alex