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command carburetor kits, cost friendly alternatives?

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fj5gtx

Anyone have experience using the aftermarket kits and could make recommendations? I have a 2000 Command 22HP twin that I bought that has been sitting a long while. model:CV22S spec 75517 serial number begins with 33 (which I think means its a year 2000 engine).

Thanks!


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StarTech

StarTech

First your spec comes back as a CV23 (22hp) and the serial number is a 10 digit then the year is 2003.

And those OEM kits are ridiculously priced. I don't see any after market kits out there either. The best price I found was the following.

24 757 46-S (eBay)


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slomo

I would try to clean what you have first. Boil clean the carb once all small parts are removed.

Here is a link we were just talking about this.




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Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

I don't know why kohler thinks their carbs and carb kits are so precious. Oh yeah, they can gouge for them because people will by them. They must be taking lessons from john deere.


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fj5gtx

First your spec comes back as a CV23 (22hp) and the serial number is a 10 digit then the year is 2003.

And those OEM kits are ridiculously priced. I don't see any after market kits out there either. The best price I found was the following.

24 757 46-S (eBay)
Ah yeah, I meant starts with 30. The one I'm replacing is a 33. Weird that 75515 comes back as a CV23... Kohler tag attached. Yes those OEM kits are crazy expensive, so much so I'm tempted to just try it as-is.

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fj5gtx

I don't know why kohler thinks their carbs and carb kits are so precious. Oh yeah, they can gouge for them because people will by them. They must be taking lessons from john deere.
You'd think the aftermarket could undercut and still make plenty of profit ! No such luck I guess.


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StarTech

StarTech

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Kinda crazy isn't it...

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fj5gtx

My CV20S engine (20HP) carb works fine, I'm thinking just disconnect at the intake and take the whole setup onto the CV22S... but I'm wondering if the jets would be too small and cause a lean condition...


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bertsmobile1

You'd think the aftermarket could undercut and still make plenty of profit ! No such luck I guess.
It is a volume & quality thing
Kohler use better quality carbs on the top end models
Better quality = higher price
Better quality = more reliable thus fewer repairs needed
Fewer repairs = less service parts needed
Less service parts = uneconomic to produce cheaper parts
Try getting parts for the Mikuni's fitted to Suzuki engines used on some Toros


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Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

I rebuild quite a few old tractor carbs and the good carb kits are usually around $100
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Before and after or one i did recently


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hlw49

If the carb is not leaking past the needle and seat and just need to clean it out because it is surging you can use the gasket kit. I do it all the time.
24 757 38s. You can buy them on eBay for around $20. Is this a Keihin or a Nikki carb. Keihin has two screws that hold the top plate on and a Nikki has 3 screws that hold it on.


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slomo

I rebuild quite a few old tractor carbs and the good carb kits are usually around $100
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Before and after or one i did recently

Carb looks great on the outside. Hope the inside is just as mint. (y)


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StarTech

StarTech

My CV20S engine (20HP) carb works fine, I'm thinking just disconnect at the intake and take the whole setup onto the CV22S... but I'm wondering if the jets would be too small and cause a lean condition...
Yes it would probably be lean.


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Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

Carb looks great on the outside. Hope the inside is just as mint. (y)
Absolutely!


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VegetiveSteam

Ah yeah, I meant starts with 30. The one I'm replacing is a 33. Weird that 75515 comes back as a CV23... Kohler tag attached. Yes those OEM kits are crazy expensive, so much so I'm tempted to just try it as-is.
That was right at the time Kohler was going from the CV22 to the CV23 and the early specs were labeled as CV22s. The 75XXX specs had a slightly larger bore. At the time Kohler actually referred to it as their large bore 22.


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fj5gtx

If the carb is not leaking past the needle and seat and just need to clean it out because it is surging you can use the gasket kit. I do it all the time.
24 757 38s. You can buy them on eBay for around $20. Is this a Keihin or a Nikki carb. Keihin has two screws that hold the top plate on and a Nikki has 3 screws that hold it on.

Looks like 2 screws to me.

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