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I'm looking at buying a generator for cheap that sounds like it might have a bad govenor internally. Assuming it does, is the governor gear on these replaceable? I don't have the exact engine numbers yet. I know it's a 208cc briggs engine on a 3500watt generator. Doing a general lookup of xr950 series engine which I believe is what it is, I can't seem to find listing for the gears. Is it a non replaceable part?


The generator model is 030676-00

Thanks!

The governor gear is replaceable. the complicated part of this project is removing the genset from the engine so you can remove the sump cover to get to the internals.

Yeah it's usually not a fun project but it wouldn't be my first. Do you know where to find that part? I wasn't able to find it in any of the listing for those engines.

Well this is stupid. I look-up the generator and it IPL says it has a 13U132-0001-G1 engine. Looked that engine and apparently Briggs does not provide much in the line of parts for it. Basically a throw away engine. Even HFT engine parts are hard to find but they are there but not with this Briggs engine.

Has Briggs just went Crazy and no longer make quality and repairable engines? I can just imagine what some of my customer are going to say when I tell them "Sorry there is only some parts available for your engine so have to buy another engine or just your new machine.".

StarTech said:

Well this is stupid. I look-up the generator and it IPL says it has a 13U132-0001-G1 engine. Looked that engine and apparently Briggs does not provide much in the line of parts for it. Basically a throw away engine. Even HFT engine parts are hard to find but they are there but not with this Briggs engine.

Has Briggs just went Crazy and no longer make quality and repairable engines? I can just imagine what some of my customer are going to say when I tell them "Sorry there is only some parts available for your engine so have to buy another engine or just your new machine.".

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I think there is several things going on. One I don't think it was Briggs intention to have a lack of parts, but things just didn't materialize, and Two I think they are also shedding some of their old stock. Look up the parts diagrams for some of the older 35-38 series Vanguards. The parts diagrams are not even there, It's not like they have obsoleted out the parts, it is like the engine never existed. Or the new owners of Briggs are doing away with everything prior to the bankruptcy.

only governor system part i can find is the governor shaft.......... crazy

Remember those Briggs 3.5hp horizontal crank engines? The ones that every kid boy in America had on their go-carts? And 40 years of McLane Edgers and so on? Try and get a used or new air filter housing now LOL.

Scrubcadet10 said:

only governor system part i can find is the governor shaft.......... crazy

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I was thinking that the governor gear may be part of the crankcase side cover which isn't available either.

I don't know what briggs was thinking when they designed this. And to make it worse, from what I've seen the gear actrally attaches to the inside of the engine block on the flywheel side. To be honest, these engines look like they are based off the honda gx series engines. The govenor gear and arms look nearly identical. However I have no idea of they would be interchangeable.

the parts are shown in the fiche at Jacks but the part in the fiche has no matching number, as if they are NLA. Earlier models show the same drawing, and the fiche part is the same fiche # but not the actual part number - so say part #227 on the fiche is a different part when #227 is looked up etc.. It could be as simple as earlier parts were metal and the new ones plastic etc., but if I was going to buy something I'd want to know the parts were available. If the engine was free then maybe I might chance it by matching how the other part numbers matched and fit, but not if I had to pay for it.

So I went down to look at the generator. The guy said he was using it briefly and it just wouldn't idle up. They drained the fuel of corse but I was able to start it with what was in the carb bowl. It seemed to idle down but stalled. The govenor seemed to be working so maybe something else. He let it go for 50$, and said it was still outputting power. The throttle butterfly looked good as well as the linkage. I'll mess with it more tonight when I get home. I grabbed it on my lunch break. Any possable ideas for why it wouldn't throttle up? All the springs and linkages look good and seem to move as they should.

ILENGINE said:

I was thinking that the governor gear may be part of the crankcase side cover which isn't available either.

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That crossed my mind.

So I started it up and it basically just gets overloaded by the generator somehow. If I unplug what I think is the voltage regulator it runs fine. If I disconnect one of the wires at the brushes it will also run fine. Unbolting the 3 wires that go to the outlets doesn't get rid of the huge drag on the engine. So I don't think there is an issue with the outlets or control panel. Something in the generator side is apprently putting a huge load on the engine. Does anyone know how to troubleshoot this?

The black looking box is what I unplugged.

Will need the model information of the generator.

Sorry it's 030676-00

It looks like maybe the stator is burned or bad?

I would say it is bad when you see this.

and this

@StarTech The had to be giving off an odor that would be unmistakable The burnt electric smell is probably still there if somebody puts their nose close to it. Looks like both the rotor and the field are cooked.

Have you tried adjusting governor yet?