Advice On A Sub $3000 Zero Turn Mower

Conn0r33

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I saw Ric and others talking about if you should go with commercial equipment or not. Commercial is always the best option if you can afford it. It will last at least three times longer than a residential unit.

I'm my experience with residential equipment used commercially which I have been doing for 7 years because I started my business extremely young. Actually even four years ago you couldnt really call it a business. But In those 7 years I have been through at least 4 mowers. They are Toro residential push mower but they have a commercial deck on them. That's not that great because everything else breaks. I could be wrong but I know there is at least one commercial part on it but it is a residential unit just a bit higher end $599.99
So if you are going with a residential mower you will maybe get two years out of it if used commercially. The first year you should be fine you might have one thing break but I'd guess that you would be fine. Second year lots of stuff breaks and eventually you will just get rid of it either because it broke down and it can't be used any longer or all the repairs get to be such a headache you will want a new one.
Also to keep in mind when buying a residential mower it will have a RESIDENTIAL warrenty on it so by using it commercially I doubt there is a dealer out there who would fix it for free if it breaks under warrenty because it's been used commercially im guessing that it won't be covered at least that's how it's been in my experience.

Also Toro is great those push mowers I talked about have been amazing considering that they are residential units used commercially. The only thing that has broken on them is the self propel cables snap and just need replaced or something. I've had one wheel break off. And a bolt in the handle bar come out. But that's it. I consider that amazing considering that im putting on about 320hrs on them. And eventually I need to get rid of them. One of them i got for 2014 it will probably have 320 hours in it by the end of the season and this is its second year. And the other is in its third year. I had two older toro push mowers with B&S engines on them but those quit pretty quickly I can't remember why I had to get rid of those.
But I'm going to upgrade to commercial because even though it only has small repairs it still sets me behind and its a total headace to be without a mower or both. I'd just rather have a reliable commercial mower

But for those toro SR4s I estimate that I will get two years out of them with several very minor repairs but that's it. The one I have that's in its third year im guessing that it will break down sometime this year but I could be wrong the Toros I have are Toro's newer model and they seem like they are buit well so I might get more years out of them but I don't count on it. Because I think depending on how many hours you put on in a year it will very. But generally id say Avg. two years
 

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I saw Ric and others talking about if you should go with commercial equipment or not. Commercial is always the best option if you can afford it. It will last at least three times longer than a residential unit.

I'm my experience with residential equipment used commercially which I have been doing for 7 years because I started my business extremely young. Actually even four years ago you couldnt really call it a business. But In those 7 years I have been through at least 4 mowers. They are Toro residential push mower but they have a commercial deck on them. That's not that great because everything else breaks. I could be wrong but I know there is at least one commercial part on it but it is a residential unit just a bit higher end $599.99
So if you are going with a residential mower you will maybe get two years out of it if used commercially. The first year you should be fine you might have one thing break but I'd guess that you would be fine. Second year lots of stuff breaks and eventually you will just get rid of it either because it broke down and it can't be used any longer or all the repairs get to be such a headache you will want a new one.
Also to keep in mind when buying a residential mower it will have a RESIDENTIAL warrenty on it so by using it commercially I doubt there is a dealer out there who would fix it for free if it breaks under warrenty because it's been used commercially im guessing that it won't be covered at least that's how it's been in my experience.

Also Toro is great those push mowers I talked about have been amazing considering that they are residential units used commercially. The only thing that has broken on them is the self propel cables snap and just need replaced or something. I've had one wheel break off. And a bolt in the handle bar come out. But that's it. I consider that amazing considering that im putting on about 320hrs on them. And eventually I need to get rid of them. One of them i got for 2014 it will probably have 320 hours in it by the end of the season and this is its second year. And the other is in its third year. I had two older toro push mowers with B&S engines on them but those quit pretty quickly I can't remember why I had to get rid of those.
But I'm going to upgrade to commercial because even though it only has small repairs it still sets me behind and its a total headace to be without a mower or both. I'd just rather have a reliable commercial mower

But for those toro SR4s I estimate that I will get two years out of them with several very minor repairs but that's it. The one I have that's in its third year im guessing that it will break down sometime this year but I could be wrong the Toros I have are Toro's newer model and they seem like they are buit well so I might get more years out of them but I don't count on it. Because I think depending on how many hours you put on in a year it will very. But generally id say Avg. two years

If someone is going to start a commercial mowing business with the intention of growing and choosing it as their career path then I totally agree that he/she should invest in commercial equipment. However, the op suggested that he needed a sub $3k ztr mower for a highschool job mowing 10 small lawns. If that's all the op will be mowing then the raptor will suit his needs fine. Those mowers are designed for residential use, but even residential mowers will last 400 to 500 hours without any major issues if properly maintained. Even if the op adds 5 more lawns or so the raptor should handle the work load for 3 seasons or so. If the op wants to grow his business and intends to keep it past high school, then he should look into a low end commercial mower.
 

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If someone is going to start a commercial mowing business with the intention of growing and choosing it as their career path then I totally agree that he/she should invest in commercial equipment. However, the op suggested that he needed a sub $3k ztr mower for a highschool job mowing 10 small lawns. If that's all the op will be mowing then the raptor will suit his needs fine. Those mowers are designed for residential use, but even residential mowers will last 400 to 500 hours without any major issues if properly maintained. Even if the op adds 5 more lawns or so the raptor should handle the work load for 3 seasons or so. If the op wants to grow his business and intends to keep it past high school, then he should look into a low end commercial mower.
I agree. But IMO I think maybe a used commercial mower in his price range might be better. But the residential mower would be fine considering he's still getting started.
 

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I agree. But IMO I think maybe a used commercial mower in his price range might be better. But the residential mower would be fine considering he's still getting started.

Well he can buy the residential but he's throwing away his money when he needs it for the business. I would assume that this is just not a summer job thing for a kid on summer vacation. I mean after all the kid has gone to the trouble of getting or has a closed trailer and has gone to the trouble of getting his DBA and is looking for or to spend $3000 on a ztr mower, right off hand I'd guess he's going to start a commercial mowing business with the intention of growing and has chosen his career path. A good used commercial is money well spent and something he could use for back up and not lose his butt on if he wanted to sell it.
 

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Well he can buy the residential but he's throwing away his money when he needs it for the business. I would assume that this is just not a summer job thing for a kid on summer vacation. I mean after all the kid has gone to the trouble of getting or has a closed trailer and has gone to the trouble of getting his DBA and is looking for or to spend $3000 on a ztr mower, right off hand I'd guess he's going to start a commercial mowing business with the intention of growing and has chosen his career path. A good used commercial is money well spent and something he could use for back up and not lose his butt on if he wanted to sell it.

That's all speculation. If you read his first post. It said I'm looking for a sub $3k mower for a high school job. He also said he was mowing 10 lawns. He didn't ask for speculation about his future plans. He asked if the raptor would handle that job, and it will. If the op wants to post again and explain his intentions then that will clear things up. I don't disagree with you at all if the op is looking to actually choose this as his career path and grow his business. I just answer the op's question and try not to speculate on what their future plans are.
 

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Ric is very experienced in commercial mowing, but I disagree a little here. You are mowing 10 lawns, not 50. The raptor is a low end ztr mower, but should handle a few small lawns a week. The raptor won't last as many years as a commercial mower, but you should get a few years out of it. That should be enough time to see if you are going to grow your business and choose that as your career path. You can upgrade later if you continue your business. I don't know how large the lawns are, but if you are push mowing them now I assume they are small lawns. As long as the slopes are slight the raptor should be ok. If the slopes are too steep for the raptor then you can push mow the slopes.

I happen to agree with Rick...I have owned a Raptor and I would hate to know that I had to cut 10 yards a week with that thing..would be a good way to get discouraged... JS
 

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That's all speculation. If you read his first post. It said I'm looking for a sub $3k mower for a high school job. He also said he was mowing 10 lawns. He didn't ask for speculation about his future plans. He asked if the raptor would handle that job, and it will. If the op wants to post again and explain his intentions then that will clear things up. I don't disagree with you at all if the op is looking to actually choose this as his career path and grow his business. I just answer the op's question and try not to speculate on what their future plans are.
No...I'm afraid that Raptor won't handle "that job"
 

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Well he can buy the residential but he's throwing away his money when he needs it for the business. I would assume that this is just not a summer job thing for a kid on summer vacation. I mean after all the kid has gone to the trouble of getting or has a closed trailer and has gone to the trouble of getting his DBA and is looking for or to spend $3000 on a ztr mower, right off hand I'd guess he's going to start a commercial mowing business with the intention of growing and has chosen his career path. A good used commercial is money well spent and something he could use for back up and not lose his butt on if he wanted to sell it.
Ric...quiet frankly...I don't think some of us are capable of thinking ahead..;-)
 

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I agree. But IMO I think maybe a used commercial mower in his price range might be better. But the residential mower would be fine considering he's still getting started.


The trouble with the "good used" commercial mower is what is the definition of good and how will he know it is good?
The seller is selling it for a reason. That reason may be he has been having regular problems.

Or, it may be getting ready to have problems...is this kid mechanically inclined? A used mower will have a lot of worn parts to replace as time goes on too.

It's a tough call. At least with new, he know everything is working.
 
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