94 Yardman garden tractor whirls when trying to start

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Might this still be a battery issue? It seems to me more like the starter gear is not catching / engaging, but could it be the battery, I have no tester and tried to jump with car to same no avail. Thanks
 

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  • / 94 Yardman garden tractor whirls when trying to start
Whirls only, no starting action...did notice a catch/slug before cranking but then starting in the past. I have only owned weeks, has 360 cca battery, no date thingies were punched out on battery so do not know how old. Has always started.
 

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PS - had just cranked and started minutes prior, I apologize for adding these last 2 add-ons / posts (thought may help).
 

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Sounds like you have no engagement of starter to flywheel. Spin the flywheel about a 1/4 turn and try again. Try this 2-3 times. You could have a bad spot (teeth) on the flywheel allowing no engagement thus the whirring sound. You can also bang on the starter body with a plastic screwdriver handle, etc before/during starting in case the plunger is hung up. Just as a little precaution, pull the plug wires off first so that the engine does not start during this test. Report back. Do the tests with a fully charged battery.
 

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  • / 94 Yardman garden tractor whirls when trying to start
Whirls only, no starting action...did notice a catch/slug before cranking but then starting in the past. I have only owned weeks, has 360 cca battery, no date thingies were punched out on battery so do not know how old. Has always started.

Are you saying during this event, the engine hesitated to turn over but then did turn over and started? If so, the usual culprit is valves which need adjusting. This happens due to the internal compression release not working during start up. This is normally remedied with a valve adjustment.
 

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No, to clarify, it has not started nor even turned over since the first whirling episode. I will try what you mentioned above and think that is what it is as well. I think the battery is fine as it had just started it 3 times over some minutes leading up to this all. It has done nothing but whirl since. Thanks for your time here by the way.
 

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Tried and it now makes a spark on the black terminal of battery and just buzzes, no whirl...sounds like a dull buzzer sound of a game show buzzer. Spark and buzz, no whirl.
 

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Barely tapped but must have ruined the magnets in the starter...now I cannot get the starter off to save me...what a moron I must be. Taken all kinds of bolts off and none allow starter to come off. Watched videos galore of people taken 2 bolts off in 2 minutes. I defy that to be the case for this one. 144v834h401 model of Yardman...18 hp Briggs 422777 model engine
 

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Assuming the starter mounting bolts are removed along with any cables / wires, I can't see anything keeping it from removal unless the starter gear is jammed up into the flywheel. Not the crap out of it with a rubber mallet, wood, etc. Or gently pry on it. Believe me, we've all been through this kind of deal.
 

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  • / 94 Yardman garden tractor whirls when trying to start
Tried and it now makes a spark on the black terminal of battery and just buzzes, no whirl...sounds like a dull buzzer sound of a game show buzzer. Spark and buzz, no whirl.

" Makes a spark"

That means an electric arc is jumping a gap...thus a bad connection.
 
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