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917272960 Craftsman rider New ground drive belt won't tighten I think clutch is not

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cmasury

fully releasing. After installing a new 84x1/2" belt on the ground drive I have too much slack in belt. I was told earlier it may have slipped a pulley

i thought it may have fell out of the eng pulley After I checked again it was in the proper pulleys properly routed. When I lift up the clutch pedal it doesn't tighten the ground belt. Does anybody know high the clutch pedal should be off the floor? I'm thinking the clutch is not fully releasing due to linkage binding up somewhere causing excessive belt slack.I was also wondering how much belt deflection should be in the belt with the park brake on Any ideas. Thanks for looking



#3

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cmasury

The belt I bought is similar to this one

Drive V-Belt
#56
Ground drive
Lawn tractor ground drive belt, 1/2 x 84-1/2-in mine is 1/2 x84
$53.07
Part #532140218
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In Stock
This part replaces #140218


#4

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cmasury

fully releasing. After installing a new 84x1/2" belt on the ground drive I have too much slack in belt. I was told earlier it may have slipped a pulley

i thought it may have fell out of the eng pulley After I checked again it was in the proper pulleys properly routed. When I lift up the clutch pedal it doesn't tighten the ground belt. Does anybody know high the clutch pedal should be off the floor? I'm thinking the clutch is not fully releasing due to linkage binding up somewhere causing excessive belt slack.I was also wondering how much belt deflection should be in the belt with the park brake on Any ideas. Thanks for looking
How do I know that the clutch is totally released


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MowLife

Easiest way is to lay on the ground and work the clutch with your hand to see if the idler arm is getting full travel. With clutch released see if you can push the idler arm into the belt more. Oh and do this with mower not running.


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bertsmobile1

OK lets start by making sure we are all thinking about the same mower
Is this the clutch belt you have ?
https://www.partstree.com/parts/electrolux/mowers-lawn-garden-tractor/hagth220b-electrolux-ayp-lawn-tractor-1999-before/ground-drive/
If so print out the diagram so we can use the numbers o identify the parts.
You might also need to chassis diagram .
Ignore that it is an Electroluxe and not a Craftsman
Both are essentially the same mower made at the same factory painted different colours for different retailers.


#7

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cmasury

OK lets start by making sure we are all thinking about the same mower
Is this the clutch belt you have ?
https://www.partstree.com/parts/electrolux/mowers-lawn-garden-tractor/hagth220b-electrolux-ayp-lawn-tractor-1999-before/ground-drive/
If so print out the diagram so we can use the numbers o identify the parts.
You might also need to chassis diagram .
Ignore that it is an Electroluxe and not a Craftsman
Both are essentially the same mower made at the same factory painted different colours for different retailers.
https://www.searspartsdirect.com/model/2jpv6eu8fe-000247 Hi Bert thanks for helping me. This is my mower above Ground belt calls for 84.5x1/2" I am using a 84X.1/2" belt


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cmasury

https://www.searspartsdirect.com/model/2jpv6eu8fe-000247 Hi Bert thanks for helping me. This is my mower above Ground belt calls for 84.5x1/2" I am using a 84X1/2" belt
Is one of the idler pulleys supposed to pivot to tighten belt? I must have 2 or 3 inches of belt deflection with the brake off. I only see one spring on the ground drive. When I lift up the clutch cable it doesn't tighten the belt. Should it?



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bertsmobile1

remove the belt and work the pedal watching how far it travels and checking it is not hanging up on anything.
Without the belt on the clutch / brake pedal should go back far enough for the spring to be slack.
Check all 6 pulleys in the system
Did you take the spring off ?
If so are you sure it went back to the same hole / pin it was on in the first place.
Is the spring still good ?
If it goes in to a hole or slot has it cut the hole bigger ?


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cmasury

remove the belt and work the pedal watching how far it travels and checking it is not hanging up on anything.
Without the belt on the clutch / brake pedal should go back far enough for the spring to be slack.
Check all 6 pulleys in the system
Did you take the spring off ?
If so are you sure it went back to the same hole / pin it was on in the first place.
Is the spring still good ?
If it goes in to a hole or slot has it cut the hole bigger ?
Never took off the spring.With Belt on with about 3 inches of belt deflection, the same as not having no tension on any pulleys. Also the brake rod is off. I still have considerable tension on clutch spring, I think it is binding up for sure if the spring is supposed to be relaxed when I release the clutch. Do I understand what you are saying?


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Rivets

With that much deflection I’m betting that the belt is not routed properly. From what I see your unit has six pulleys, plus the belt will have two twists in it. Your owners many has routing directions in it. If you don’t have one, you can go to Sears Parts Direct and download a manual.


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Scrubcadet10

Scrubcadet10

may help : https://www.searspartsdirect.com/di...ce-a-ground-drive-belt-on-a-riding-lawn-mower
but i think its more of a general how to than specific


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bertsmobile1

Never took off the spring.With Belt on with about 3 inches of belt deflection, the same as not having no tension on any pulleys. Also the brake rod is off. I still have considerable tension on clutch spring, I think it is binding up for sure if the spring is supposed to be relaxed when I release the clutch. Do I understand what you are saying?

The spring is what puts tension on the belt.
Without the belt the spring should pull the clutch lever all the way to it's stop ( if it has one ) by which time the spring should have almost no tension on it.
When you put your foot on the clutch, you stretch the spring which takes the tension off the belt .
When you take your foot off the pedal the spring pulls the lever back till the belt is tight enough to drive the mower.
So without the belt and spring on you check that the pedal has full movement and it is not fouling on something.
In the fully up position without the belt on the spring should be either slack or just tight enough to prevent it falling off.
If there is nothing preventing the pedal travelling it's full range and your belt is slack then it is not routed properly and my guess is you are missing the front idler pulley or the second pulley on the tranny.

As for how slack the belt should be with the brake on, if you grab the belt and push it towards the engine pulley it must be able to go freely forward till it touches the belt keepers & stay there when you let it go.


The burning question is why did you decide to replace the belt in the first place ?
Are you sure all 6 pulleys are in place ?


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