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ParadiseCity821

If you had $8,000 to $10,000 to spend on a tractor (and you absolutely needed to have 4wd because of the slopes) and it would be used primarily, 95% of the time, to mow 2 acres, what would you buy?


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Shughes717

If you had $8,000 to $10,000 to spend on a tractor (and you absolutely needed to have 4wd because of the slopes) and it would be used primarily, 95% of the time, to mow 2 acres, what would you buy?

If the slopes were steep I would go with a used deweze slope mower. Awesome mower. I use one to mow around the pond banks at my grandmother's house. Husqvarna makes an articulating 4 wheel drive mower (R322t). The deck can be changed out for a number of other implements as well. You can purchase one of them new for about $5500. Ventrac makes a nice slope mower as well.


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eric102

If you had $8,000 to $10,000 to spend on a tractor (and you absolutely needed to have 4wd because of the slopes) and it would be used primarily, 95% of the time, to mow 2 acres, what would you buy?
Since you are requesting a tractor I think the John Deere AWD X700 series is your only choice but will cost a bit more than your budget if buying new, used ones will fall right in you price range though. John Deere always has the 0 down 0% interest for 60 months deal going on plus you get a 4 year bumper to bumper warranty on a new rig also.


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Shughes717

Since you are requesting a tractor I think the John Deere AWD X700 series is your only choice but will cost a bit more than your budget if buying new, used ones will fall right in you price range though. John Deere always has the 0 down 0% interest for 60 months deal going on plus you get a 4 year bumper to bumper warranty on a new rig also.

There are other options than John Deere. The Kubota BX series is one example of a 4wd lawn tractor. The Simplicity prestige is another 4wd lawn tractor. That's just off the top of my head, not to mention the three brands I brought up in my first post. The Simplicity, and the Husqvarna are probably the only two that the op could purchase brand new for the budget mentioned.


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bertsmobile1

Any of the articulated 4WD's are good provided you do not let the grass grow too high.
I love the Rider Pros, a beautiful piece of kit.
The Stiga Park will handle tall grass better than either the Husqvarna or the Jhonsored.

But there are a lot of other things that need consideration like the type of grass, roughness of the terrain, amount of the debris


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eric102

Any of the articulated 4WD's are good provided you do not let the grass grow too high.

I've noticed that with a neighbors Husqvarna articulated, it will leave a lot of clumps if he doesn't mow every week which is hard to do here in the wet Pacific Northwest.


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bertsmobile1

Yes the bio clip mulching deck is the best mulcher I have ever seen but it chokes if you try to cut much more than 2" because they really chop up the grass almost into a pulp.
The other nice thing is they are quiet, by lawnmower standards.
Down side is it gets really slippery on the back tyres.
The Stiga parks will handle a lot taller grass but I don't know if they are available over there.
Murray used to make some mowers for Stiga I assume because Murray has a colour code for Stiga yellow and Stiga White.

You can get a rear discharge deck for the Rider Pros , but they leave a windrow behind them


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ParadiseCity821

Yes the bio clip mulching deck is the best mulcher I have ever seen but it chokes if you try to cut much more than 2" because they really chop up the grass almost into a pulp.
The other nice thing is they are quiet, by lawnmower standards.
Down side is it gets really slippery on the back tyres.
The Stiga parks will handle a lot taller grass but I don't know if they are available over there.
Murray used to make some mowers for Stiga I assume because Murray has a colour code for Stiga yellow and Stiga White.

You can get a rear discharge deck for the Rider Pros , but they leave a windrow behind them

Thanks for all the replies. Shughes...I really like the Simplicity Prestiges but I've heard that they have a lot of issues with their 4wd's. Anyone have any actual experience with them?


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Shughes717

Thanks for all the replies. Shughes...I really like the Simplicity Prestiges but I've heard that they have a lot of issues with their 4wd's. Anyone have any actual experience with them?

I must admit, I cannot give an informed opinion on the Prestige. I have never owned one. I do have extensive experience on the John Deere, Kubota, and the Deweze. I like the design of the Husqvarna, but I haven't put enough hours in the seat on it, or the Pretige to know how well they hold up over time. I would like to read some reviews from members on both machines as well.


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John R

Look around for a good used Kubota BX.


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Shughes717

Look around for a good used Kubota BX.

They are very good mowers. The op will definately have to buy used with most brands on an 8 to 10k budget.


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bertsmobile1

Getting any ones bum out of their Kubota will not be easy.
In 4 years I have only ever seen 3 used Kubotas for sale down here


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Rivets

New Kubota GR2120 would meet your needs and is in your price range.


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Shughes717

Getting any ones bum out of their Kubota will not be easy.
In 4 years I have only ever seen 3 used Kubotas for sale down here

There are probably a whole lot more of them available in the U.S. Than there are in Australia. Kubota has a great support network in the U.S..


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eric102

New Kubota GR2120 would meet your needs and is in your price range.

Only 4wd when going straight? Why would they do that since usually when turning on a slope is where you need the traction the most. Or am I not understanding the sales brochure correctly.


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bertsmobile1

4WD when going strait.
3WD when turning corners.

They dissconnect the drive to the inside wheel which needs to go slower on turns.

This was introduced a few yers back and I am guessing that it was originally designed to eliminate the need for a differential which is a high cost item.
The ZTR's with steering wheels do the same thing.
The old mowers with friction drives used to do similar for tight turning, one hub free wheeled.
The difference here is that they alternate so it is always the inside wheel.
Otherwise you end up with a turning circle bigger than the Bismark or tearing up your lawn or both.


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ParadiseCity821

4WD when going strait.
3WD when turning corners.

They dissconnect the drive to the inside wheel which needs to go slower on turns.

This was introduced a few yers back and I am guessing that it was originally designed to eliminate the need for a differential which is a high cost item.
The ZTR's with steering wheels do the same thing.
The old mowers with friction drives used to do similar for tight turning, one hub free wheeled.
The difference here is that they alternate so it is always the inside wheel.
Otherwise you end up with a turning circle bigger than the Bismark or tearing up your lawn or both.

Appreciate all the insight and opinions. I'm going to look around for another week or two before pulling the trigger. Just amazing to me that $10,000 will not buy a high quality, 4wd garden tractor (x738, Legacy XL or BX)


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eric102

Appreciate all the insight and opinions. I'm going to look around for another week or two before pulling the trigger. Just amazing to me that $10,000 will not buy a high quality, 4wd garden tractor (x738, Legacy XL or BX)

Stick with a high quality tractor and you will probably pay less than if buying a number of cheaper tractors over the years. Before my X739 I had a JD318 (which was expensive in its time) that went 26 years with no major issues, just belts, tires, oil, the usual stuff. Had its original deck and was still running great when I sold it to buy the new one. In 26 years I probably would have went through 3 or 4 of the box store brands and would not have had a very capable machine for other tasks.

Good luck on your search, its actually a fun process.


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bertsmobile1

Appreciate all the insight and opinions. I'm going to look around for another week or two before pulling the trigger. Just amazing to me that $10,000 will not buy a high quality, 4wd garden tractor (x738, Legacy XL or BX)

YOu are falling into the $$$$ trap rather than evaluating the real cost.
The real cost is how many hours of your hard work is required to buy the mower beause ultimately that is what you are spending.
When we got our first petrol powered push mower it cost 3 months wages and we payed it off over 4 years.
Ten G sounds like a lot of money but in reality is is only 1 to 2 months wages, 3 at the most. Which is what a push mower costed in the 60's
Our perception of vlaue gets distorted because it is hard to evaluate things against something that is real like the hours you have worked.
Money is not real , it is just an intermediate used to convert one thing like Labour to another thing like Lawnmower it gets created out of thin air by banks & governments .
Even worse is we tend make a heiracy in our minds based on the money attached to an item without regard to the quality & durability of the item and we tend to use the lowest price as a guide.
So pushmowers are all worth $ 100, ride ons are $ 2000 , ZTR's are $ 3000 etc etc etc.

There is also a modern tendancy to buy the smallest cheapest items that if everyting is favourable might almost be able to cope with what you need it to do today where we would all be better off by investing in the largest strongest most durable item that can do twice what we actually need it to do TODAY and everything that we could possibly throw at it in the years to come even if that means going into debt for a short while. If what we are buying is a high quality item then it will be a lot cheaper in the long run.
My 69 year old sister is still using the said same lawnmower that our farther bought when we were little children.

Currently I have a Bolens ( Troy Bilt) GTX 18 in the workshop.
It was $ 18,000 ( Aust ) in 1999 and has done 2555 hours so it was not working as hard as designed for.
It is still running the original spindle bearings fifth set of blades, second deck belt and I am currently cleaning out the deck lift bush holes to fit bigger bushes as they are a little oval.
In 1999 you could buy a small 4 cylinder car for $ 15,000, and a lot of peole did just that, however very few of the cars are still running and this mower will do another 20 years standing on its head.
And no it has not been pampered as the owner backs onto bushland which get mowed every few years for fire prevention so they are cutting a lot of small shrubs and running over very rough ground.


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