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2400 Hours too much when buying used X Series, 29HP Kawi?
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PerlAddict
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PerlAddict
I've been bumming off the neighbors' mowers and my father-in-law's 72" Toro for several months while I did some reading and waited for something in my price range to pop up in a used commercial mower.
Found a 2010 Exmark Lazer Z X-Series, 29HP Kawasaki FX801v for $3800, but it's got high hours - 2417, to be exact. It's a single owner mower and he's going to bring it by my house tomorrow at lunch to check it out, but should I be concerned about end-of-life on the engine? In my searching, I found a handful of commercial owners saying that somewhere between the 2300 and 2800 hour marks, it wasn't uncommon to expect an engine replacement on their Exmarks. Problem is, they didn't give a whole lot of specifics about their model year, exact motor, etc.
Even if the mower is running great, I don't want to have to plink down another couple grand in the next two or three years to replace the motor when I could have just paid more up front and bought new (problem is, my budget tops out right at $4k).
I've got a 1.9 acre yard, fairly level and with sparse trees, that will probably require about 40 hours of mowing per year. I've been reading up on my own for weeks (months), but I'm looking for some friendly first-person advice now. 2400 hours on a single-owner used commercial mower ... would the hours scare you off, or is it no big deal as long as it's been well-maintained?
Thanks for any help!
- Dave
Found a 2010 Exmark Lazer Z X-Series, 29HP Kawasaki FX801v for $3800, but it's got high hours - 2417, to be exact. It's a single owner mower and he's going to bring it by my house tomorrow at lunch to check it out, but should I be concerned about end-of-life on the engine? In my searching, I found a handful of commercial owners saying that somewhere between the 2300 and 2800 hour marks, it wasn't uncommon to expect an engine replacement on their Exmarks. Problem is, they didn't give a whole lot of specifics about their model year, exact motor, etc.
Even if the mower is running great, I don't want to have to plink down another couple grand in the next two or three years to replace the motor when I could have just paid more up front and bought new (problem is, my budget tops out right at $4k).
I've got a 1.9 acre yard, fairly level and with sparse trees, that will probably require about 40 hours of mowing per year. I've been reading up on my own for weeks (months), but I'm looking for some friendly first-person advice now. 2400 hours on a single-owner used commercial mower ... would the hours scare you off, or is it no big deal as long as it's been well-maintained?
Thanks for any help!
- Dave
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BlazNT
BlazNT
Too many hours for me. It is like buying a car or truck with 240,000 miles
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Rivets
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Rivets
As stated, way to many hours at that price. Unless you are a very good gambler I would stay away at half the price. Don't be fooled if it has been cleaned and polished to look good on the outside.
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PerlAddict
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PerlAddict
Thanks, guys. I kinda had a gut feeling, but I wanted some more experienced opinions. I canceled with the guy today. He understood and said just to call him if I ended up changing my mind and wanted to see it.
The commercial grade bells and whistles caught my eye for that price, but I'd probably better off investing in an upper-end residential grade machine with a warranty and low-to-none hours. It's hard when you're looking at those 60" decks not to get sucked into wanting the commercial grade stuff, though!
The commercial grade bells and whistles caught my eye for that price, but I'd probably better off investing in an upper-end residential grade machine with a warranty and low-to-none hours. It's hard when you're looking at those 60" decks not to get sucked into wanting the commercial grade stuff, though!
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Vanousb
Vanousb
I think your looking to new is the right idea. I ended up doing the same. Briefly looked at used and quickly decided that money would go a long way on new. With that and zero interest deals I got my pioneer s 60 inch as upper (with some commercial perks) residential for my 3 acres. I like knowing the hours are coming from me for the price I am paying with the comfort of the warranty in place. I looking for new "previous year model" to get more for my money.
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Shughes717
I understand wanting a commercial ztr mower, but you don't need a 60" deck for 1.9 acres. My lawn is over twice as large as yours, and I mow it with a 48" commercial ztr mower. Takes a little over 2 hours. You can get a 48" high end residential/low end commercial mower in the $4k to $5k range, and make monthly payments. Most brands offer 48 months at zero % interest. There are a lot of very good mower brands to choose from. See what brands you have available in your area. If you are dead set on a 60" ztr mower at $4k then you should be able to get a new Hustler Raptor sd for close to that price.
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Shughes717
I've been bumming off the neighbors' mowers and my father-in-law's 72" Toro for several months while I did some reading and waited for something in my price range to pop up in a used commercial mower.
Found a 2010 Exmark Lazer Z X-Series, 29HP Kawasaki FX801v for $3800, but it's got high hours - 2417, to be exact. It's a single owner mower and he's going to bring it by my house tomorrow at lunch to check it out, but should I be concerned about end-of-life on the engine? In my searching, I found a handful of commercial owners saying that somewhere between the 2300 and 2800 hour marks, it wasn't uncommon to expect an engine replacement on their Exmarks. Problem is, they didn't give a whole lot of specifics about their model year, exact motor, etc.
Even if the mower is running great, I don't want to have to plink down another couple grand in the next two or three years to replace the motor when I could have just paid more up front and bought new (problem is, my budget tops out right at $4k).
I've got a 1.9 acre yard, fairly level and with sparse trees, that will probably require about 40 hours of mowing per year. I've been reading up on my own for weeks (months), but I'm looking for some friendly first-person advice now. 2400 hours on a single-owner used commercial mower ... would the hours scare you off, or is it no big deal as long as it's been well-maintained?
Thanks for any help!
- Dave
I understand wanting a commercial ztr mower, but you don't need a 60" deck for 1.9 acres. My lawn is over twice as large as yours, and I mow it with a 48" commercial ztr mower. Takes a little over 2 hours. You can get a 48" high end residential/low end commercial mower in the $4k to $5k range, and make monthly payments. Most brands offer 48 months at zero % interest. There are a lot of very good mower brands to choose from. See what brands you have available in your area. If you are dead set on a 60" ztr mower at $4k then you should be able to get a new Hustler Raptor sd for close to that price.
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PerlAddict
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PerlAddict
Thanks for all the advice, everyone. I ended up taking home a Toro Titan MX6000 on Friday. $4,999 + tax from my local dealer (after I got him to price-match a store about 40 miles down the road), whom I've heard nothing but great things about with after-the-sale support. My wife will be driving this 98% of the time due to my horrendous allergies, so a good warranty, good dealer support, and minimal headaches were high on my list. Our yard may be level to the naked eye, but it's pretty bumpy thanks to the plethora of moles out here, I've discovered. Hopefully the intro-level commercial components will bring us some extra longevity over the years.
With three kids (and number 4 about to come along soon), every minute saved doing chores is a bonus, so hopefully the 60" deck will be worth it in the end. Not necessary for this size yard, I know, but she's coming from using her dad's 72" deck, so I didn't want to downgrade cutting width too far if I could help it.
Thanks again, guys. Really glad I didn't spend the time checking out the 2400 hour machine - you were my deciding factor to bail and just spend a little more!
With three kids (and number 4 about to come along soon), every minute saved doing chores is a bonus, so hopefully the 60" deck will be worth it in the end. Not necessary for this size yard, I know, but she's coming from using her dad's 72" deck, so I didn't want to downgrade cutting width too far if I could help it.
Thanks again, guys. Really glad I didn't spend the time checking out the 2400 hour machine - you were my deciding factor to bail and just spend a little more!
#8
Vanousb
Vanousb
Congrats on the new mower. I think you will be very happy with your choice to go new. Have to post some pics and give (or have your wife give) a review after a couple of mows.
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
Read the owners manual carefully and I think you can even download the service manual direct from Toro,
Do the services by the hours and change the oil at the end of the season just after you finish your last mow.
This is important because the workshop will run the engine for 10 minutes or so but that is nothing comparred to have just run the engine an hour or more bouncing around the lawn.
Leaving it sitting with nice clean oil in it over the off season goes a long way to engine longevity.
Do the services by the hours and change the oil at the end of the season just after you finish your last mow.
This is important because the workshop will run the engine for 10 minutes or so but that is nothing comparred to have just run the engine an hour or more bouncing around the lawn.
Leaving it sitting with nice clean oil in it over the off season goes a long way to engine longevity.
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Shughes717
As long as you properly maintain your mower, it should last you a very long time. Toro makes a fine mower. Btw, what part of Tennessee do you live in? I am in Friendship, which is in West Tennessee. I also have 3 kids ranging from 23 months to 13 years old. I'm done having kids myself. My wife and I discussed it, and I told her that I was too old to have another youngin once I turned 40. I don't want to be going in diapers when my youngest is getting out of them:laughing:
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Shughes717
Thanks for all the advice, everyone. I ended up taking home a Toro Titan MX6000 on Friday. $4,999 + tax from my local dealer (after I got him to price-match a store about 40 miles down the road), whom I've heard nothing but great things about with after-the-sale support. My wife will be driving this 98% of the time due to my horrendous allergies, so a good warranty, good dealer support, and minimal headaches were high on my list. Our yard may be level to the naked eye, but it's pretty bumpy thanks to the plethora of moles out here, I've discovered. Hopefully the intro-level commercial components will bring us some extra longevity over the years.
With three kids (and number 4 about to come along soon), every minute saved doing chores is a bonus, so hopefully the 60" deck will be worth it in the end. Not necessary for this size yard, I know, but she's coming from using her dad's 72" deck, so I didn't want to downgrade cutting width too far if I could help it.
Thanks again, guys. Really glad I didn't spend the time checking out the 2400 hour machine - you were my deciding factor to bail and just spend a little more!
As long as you properly maintain your mower, it should last you a very long time. Toro makes a fine mower. Btw, what part of Tennessee do you live in? I am in Friendship, which is in West Tennessee. I also have 3 kids ranging from 23 months to 13 years old. I'm done having kids myself. My wife and I discussed it, and I told her that I was too old to have another youngin once I turned 40. I don't want to be going in diapers when my youngest is getting out of them:laughing: