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24 HP Intek Started to burn oil over night?

#1

D

Drussell

I have a Crapsmen 24 hp BS 445677 2 cyl engine 7 yr old FS5500 Fairway series 725 hr. 3 weeks ago it started to blow blue/white smoke and eat oil. I changed one head gasket yesterday. I did not see obvious failure. There was a lot of carbon build up on the piston face and valve head. I scraped it clean and reassembled. Runs good but still smokes to much. Sprark plug is darker than the other cyclinder. I will change the other head gasket tonight.

Any Ideas what to do next.


#2

Carscw

Carscw

Drussell said:
I have a Crapsmen 24 hp BS 445677 2 cyl engine 7 yr old FS5500 Fairway series 725 hr. 3 weeks ago it started to blow blue/white smoke and eat oil. I changed one head gasket yesterday. I did not see obvious failure. There was a lot of carbon build up on the piston face and valve head. I scraped it clean and reassembled. Runs good but still smokes to much. Sprark plug is darker than the other cyclinder. I will change the other head gasket tonight.

Any Ideas what to do next.
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725 hours on it and you call it crap?
I am going to say you have bad rings letting oil get past and into the cylinder.

(( cowboy up and get over it ))


#3

D

Drussell

Carscw said:
725 hours on it and you call it crap?
I am going to say you have bad rings letting oil get past and into the cylinder.

(( cowboy up and get over it ))
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Is 725 hour the expected life of BS engines or rings. I changed the oil every 50 hours and new air filter every 100 hr. It was running great until 3 weeks ago. Then wham, All of a sudden it started eating oil. What happen.

If it is the piston rings how hard is it to change them.


#4

M

motoman

Drussel, Unfortunately there is probably more than changing rings if that is the problem. You need a "character analysis" of your cylinders that you may not be able to perform yourself. By that "we" (taking collective liberty here) mean the cylinders must be checked by a pro with proper insruments for taper, round,height and cracks. In this throw away society we have you may find you cannot do the old school fix of e.g., honing or boring .010" over as the parts are not available, the factory wanting to sell you (perhaps) a short block . This may not be bad for you if the rest of the tractor is worth it. This I do not know. Although I have a 24 Intek with about 700 hours it only smokes on sart up and just a little making me think valve seal/guides. This blabber may motivate the professional dudes to add from their knowledge. Good luck . I am depressed Mr Carscw thinks our tractors must die at 700 hours. I have grown almost fond of mine. :shocked:


#5

R

Rivets

Do a cylinder leak down test to identify the cause of your problem, before digging too deep into your pockets.


#6

Carscw

Carscw

motoman said:
Drussel, Unfortunately there is probably more than changing rings if that is the problem. You need a "character analysis" of your cylinders that you may not be able to perform yourself. By that "we" (taking collective liberty here) mean the cylinders must be checked by a pro with proper insruments for taper, round,height and cracks. In this throw away society we have you may find you cannot do the old school fix of e.g., honing or boring .010" over as the parts are not available, the factory wanting to sell you (perhaps) a short block . This may not be bad for you if the rest of the tractor is worth it. This I do not know. Although I have a 24 Intek with about 700 hours it only smokes on sart up and just a little making me think valve seal/guides. This blabber may motivate the professional dudes to add from their knowledge. Good luck . I am depressed Mr Carscw thinks our tractors must die at 700 hours. I have grown almost fond of mine. :shocked:
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I guess I should have been more clear with my comment.

It is known that I like craftsman. He started out saying my crapsman.

When a mower/ tractor gets up to 700 hours on it your going to have to do some maintenance to it.

Most homeowner mowers do not ever make 700 hours. IMO craftsman is not crap and you can not blame craftsman for a engine problem at 700 hours.

One of my many craftsman mowers is on its 3rd engine. ( Used engines )The deck and tranny are still in good shape. The steering is still good.

I just replace belts and spindles as I hit things a lot
I use it as my brush mower. I know it has well over 2000 hours on it.

I hope mowers last longer than 700 hours as my cub cadet will hit it this week.

I hope this helped to redeem my self

(( cowboy up and get over it ))


#7

D

Drussell

Actually I do like Crapsmens. I have a Crapsmen roto tillier 15 years old and work great. I doubt it has 725 hr on it though. The problem is not Crapsmen its BS. I don't mind a little maintenance. I do a lot of it. I also maintain a 15 yr Ariens snow thrower and many dirt bikes of various makes and years, chain saws, gas trimmer, and a 27 yr old Articat snow mobile. Everything needs some TLC now and then. What I really like about Crapsmen is part availability and exploded diagrams. From my point of view the tractor is fine. If I have to replace the engine so be it. My objective is to walk up from simple (inexpensive) fixes. Breather tube, head gaskets, ect. I have a compression tester but not the equipment to due a full blown bleeed down test. However I don't believe the engine should only last 725 hr. No how much should I invest in diagnostic test and fix versus a rebuilt engine. A new engine is more than 1/2 a new Tractor.


#8

R

Rivets

Many of the franchised auto parts stores loan out test equipment. Auto Zone, O'riellys, Advanced Auto, etc. I would check there first, may be worth a phone call or two. I would not invest ing buying a leak down tester for one engine. Too costly.


#9

Carscw

Carscw

I would get on Craigslist and find a cheap mower with the engine you want.
For $200 you can get one that will last a few more years

I get them all the time most for around $100. Clean the carb and good to go

(( cowboy up and get over it ))


#10

M

motoman

Carscw, thanks I needed the hope. motoman


#11

D

Drussell

motoman said:
Carscw, thanks I needed the hope. motoman
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Well I changed the other head gasket. Again no obvious problem. The good news is the engine started and ran well. How ever I did the loose oil dip stick and it was dancing around a lot. I also found a lot of oil out side the breather tube assembly. I will replace that assembly later this week. Any thoughts?


#12

R

Rivets

I would run the unit for at least 30 minutes at half throttle before changing anymore parts. The oil you see may be residual still in the breather assembly. Some dancing of the dipstick is to be emxpexted, is it less than before? Don't take this wrong, but are you sure that both heads were torqued properly and all valve clearances were reset?


#13

D

Drussell

Rivets said:
I would run the unit for at least 30 minutes at half throttle before changing anymore parts. The oil you see may be residual still in the breather assembly. Some dancing of the dipstick is to be emxpexted, is it less than before? Don't take this wrong, but are you sure that both heads were torqued properly and all valve clearances were reset?
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No offense taken, 0.004 on the valves and 18 ftlbs on the head bolts. Or at least as close as my pittsburg torque wrench can get. The oil is outside the breather on the block and fins. I will cut some grass tonight and measure oil loss. I will post results.


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