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2009 1st edition Tiger Cub 48"

#1

J

jfacts

Hi: It seems my left hand pump and wheel motor need replacement. The left hand wheel motor - OEM is no longer available. Any ideas to salvage this awesome machine ? Thanks


#2

StarTech

StarTech

Would need model and serial number to look up the unit.


#3

J

jfacts

StarTech said:
Would need model and serial number to look up the unit.
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Hi, and thank you: Model # STC48V-26BS /|\ Serial # D1301807


#4

StarTech

StarTech

Both HG pumps are available.

BDP-10A-316 > superseded to PG-1KCC-DY1X-XXXX (LH) lists for 627.04 as I just update my system list prices the end of June.
BDP-10A-419 > superseded to PG-1GCC-DY1X-XXXX (RH) lists for 627.04.
HG HGM-15E-3138 wheel motors are listed as NLA by Scag but are available. Very expensive.
But you can use the Oregon 27-504 motors. Both sides are using the same motors and the Oregon motors are half the price of the Hydro Gear ones. List at 1025.60.

Here is one on eBay. Just this not an Oregon wheel motor but an after market version. Personally I would just go to Amazon and get the Oregon motor for 582.61. but that the repair shop in me speaking. As you can go too cheap and get burned.

www.ebay.com

Hydraulic Motor For Oregon 27-504 Scag 483190 Ferris 5100407 Hydro Gear | eBay

Otherwise deal is final. We will be happy to resolve any issues you may have in a cordial and friendly manner.
www.ebay.com
Please remember to torque the hub nut to spec. I just replaced one last fall where another shop didn't torque nut and the customer ruin a working motor shaft and they are not replaceable.


#5

J

jfacts

StarTech said:
Both HG pumps are available.

BDP-10A-316 > superseded to PG-1KCC-DY1X-XXXX (LH) lists for 627.04 as I just update my system list prices the end of June.
BDP-10A-419 > superseded to PG-1GCC-DY1X-XXXX (RH) lists for 627.04.
HG HGM-15E-3138 wheel motors are listed as NLA by Scag but are available. Very expensive.
But you can use the Oregon 27-504 motors. Both sides are using the same motors and the Oregon motors are half the price of the Hydro Gear ones. List at 1025.60.

Here is one on eBay. Just this not an Oregon wheel motor but an after market version. Personally I would just go to Amazon and get the Oregon motor for 582.61. but that the repair shop in me speaking. As you can go too cheap and get burned.

www.ebay.com

Hydraulic Motor For Oregon 27-504 Scag 483190 Ferris 5100407 Hydro Gear | eBay

Otherwise deal is final. We will be happy to resolve any issues you may have in a cordial and friendly manner.
www.ebay.com
Please remember to torque the hub nut to spec. I just replaced one last fall where another shop didn't torque nut and the customer ruin a working motor shaft and they are not replaceable.
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Hi: Glad you seem to think the same direction that I do; I'm already considering replacing 'both' side pumps and wheel motors, along with hoses, filters, fluid, etc., since if one goes, the other side can't be far behind and if rebuilding them (pumps and wheel motors), I'd rather do that for the right side before catastrophic failure like we've had with the left side. All that, enters my consideration. All that said, is the Oregon brand an upgrade from the OEM ? If not, I'm aware that there are other pump and wheel motor manufacturers - you surely are also. If I'm going to all this bother, I'd far prefer to improve what I have. *Also, I should mention that my rear wheels on the Cub have been canted in at about 10 degrees for some time now, and the tires are bald on the insides as a result. Also, I mention that we run with the heavy duty, deluxe rear mount 3 bag collection system and it's a prime consideration in keeping this machine going. (weight perhaps a factor for wheels canting inward ? ) Please share your thoughts. I do so appreciate you experience.


#6

Tiger Small Engine

Tiger Small Engine

jfacts said:
Hi: Glad you seem to think the same direction that I do; I'm already considering replacing 'both' side pumps and wheel motors, along with hoses, filters, fluid, etc., since if one goes, the other side can't be far behind and if rebuilding them (pumps and wheel motors), I'd rather do that for the right side before catastrophic failure like we've had with the left side. All that, enters my consideration. All that said, is the Oregon brand an upgrade from the OEM ? If not, I'm aware that there are other pump and wheel motor manufacturers - you surely are also. If I'm going to all this bother, I'd far prefer to improve what I have. *Also, I should mention that my rear wheels on the Cub have been canted in at about 10 degrees for some time now, and the tires are bald on the insides as a result. Also, I mention that we run with the heavy duty, deluxe rear mount 3 bag collection system and it's a prime consideration in keeping this machine going. (weight perhaps a factor for wheels canting inward ? ) Please share your thoughts. I do so appreciate you experience.
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Oregon brand is aftermarket. What makes you think you need a new pump and drive motor? How many hours on mower? What are the symptoms and problems the pump and wheel motor are exhibiting?


#7

J

jfacts

Nothing we know of yet. When the left pump and drive quit, the machine would not move under power. There are not that many hours on it, I'll have to call and check for certainty. It was run commercially for one season when new, the retired to cutting only one acre since then.


#8

B

bertsmobile1

The left side always goes first because it is on the "push" side of the belt so under load it tends to slip which makes the pump turn slower so more load on the oil
When you get your new pump/motor you will see why.
VERY IMPORTANT which is why I am yelling
Take lots of photos when you remove each part as it is very easy to assemble them backwards


#9

J

jfacts

Tiger Small Engine said:
Oregon brand is aftermarket. What makes you think you need a new pump and drive motor? How many hours on mower? What are the symptoms and problems the pump and wheel motor are exhibiting?
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As left side began failing, there were a lot of growling and grinding noises on the left side, along with the motion failures.


#10

J

jfacts

StarTech said:
Both HG pumps are available.

BDP-10A-316 > superseded to PG-1KCC-DY1X-XXXX (LH) lists for 627.04 as I just update my system list prices the end of June.
BDP-10A-419 > superseded to PG-1GCC-DY1X-XXXX (RH) lists for 627.04.
HG HGM-15E-3138 wheel motors are listed as NLA by Scag but are available. Very expensive.
But you can use the Oregon 27-504 motors. Both sides are using the same motors and the Oregon motors are half the price of the Hydro Gear ones. List at 1025.60.

Here is one on eBay. Just this not an Oregon wheel motor but an after market version. Personally I would just go to Amazon and get the Oregon motor for 582.61. but that the repair shop in me speaking. As you can go too cheap and get burned.

www.ebay.com

Hydraulic Motor For Oregon 27-504 Scag 483190 Ferris 5100407 Hydro Gear | eBay

Otherwise deal is final. We will be happy to resolve any issues you may have in a cordial and friendly manner.
www.ebay.com
Please remember to torque the hub nut to spec. I just replaced one last fall where another shop didn't torque nut and the customer ruin a working motor shaft and they are not replaceable.
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Hi Star Tech: Are rebuild kits available for the Hydrogear pump and wheel motor that have failed ? If so, would you share the part number, price, and availability ? Thank you. *edit in> It just occurred to me that you've said nothing regarding our rear wheels canting inward / \ at about 10 degrees and unevenly wearing the rear tires. (?) Thank you for your time.


#11

StarTech

StarTech

On the pump all HG offers in kit format is overhaul seal kit.

Now the they offer both a seal kit and a bearing kit.

As the rear wheel cambering it can one or more problems. Bad bearings or frame damage is a couple possibles. I work on a Scag last year where the frame around the wheel had been weld up. And it probably the reason someone didn't torque the hub nut back to spec as they most likely removed the wheel motor to do welding. Of course this cause axle key to shear and ruined both the hub and axle; requiring both to be replaced. Even the frame can twisted but if that is the case you can shim the wheel to return the wheel camber back to zero degrees.

Pump seal kit is PN 70525 Available. IT just my vendor don't have it in stock
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Wheel motor seal kit PN 7602-3 NLA
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Wheel bearing kit PN 71494 NLA
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#12

J

jfacts

Hi: I'm a little unclear on direction from your message. You said "Now the they offer both a seal kit and a bearing kit." Looking at the left wheel motor kit, it says the Product is unavailable. Do I have that correct ? Is the seal kit for the wheel motor out of stock or entirely unavailable. If so, then I pretty much have to get an aftermarket "Oregon" brand replacement for the left hand wheel motor.... as opposed to rebuilding the wheel motor. (?) Thanks


#13

StarTech

StarTech

Yes that correct they apparently quit providing the kits or at least the dealer website say they are NLA so your only choice is a replacement wheel motor.

I should had said had offered kits. I don't know what is going with HG lately as my price file I just loaded say one thing and then when go to distributor I get a something different than what the price file from the same distributor just install last week has. I got an angry complaint email to my territory sale manger sent already. I cant run a business with bad prices and other info loaded.


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