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2 wheel tractor vs wheel horse

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C

canoeks

is there an advantage of a 2 wheel tractor for garden maintenance over a Wheel Horse type lawn tractor that has the lift for attachments.
Thanks

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#2

M

Muhammad

The primary advantages I see are maneuverability, durability, and the attachments on a 2-wheeled tractor are going to be different than on a garden tractor (sickle bar mower, rotary cutter, chipper, cultivator, etc).

Now, if all you're going to do is run a tiller, then the decision might become easier... especially if you don't like walking. :biggrin:

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#3

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leon

Muhammad said:
The primary advantages I see are maneuverability, durability, and the attachments on a 2-wheeled tractor are going to be different than on a garden tractor (sickle bar mower, rotary cutter, chipper, cultivator, etc).

Now, if all you're going to do is run a tiller, then the decision might become easier... especially if you don't like walking. :biggrin:
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Very true but if your budget is troublesome the purchase of a "BCS" as an example or a "Grillo"
is miney in the bank.
It is forever tractor as you can always obtain parts-I cannot buy replacement parts for my wheel horse as they are no longer made- makes me wish I had bought a Kubota and been done with it.



The BCS can handle a flail mower, snow blower, rotary finish mower, rototiller
etc. , and the BCS also has the rotary plow option like the old gravelys and they will dig deeper than a standard rototiller, and break virgin or long unused ground but you should have a tiller to use for weeding and bed building.

You can obtain a sulky to ride behind it while mowing which saves on the legs with a big lawn and a flail mower can and will cut deep grass better than a standard mower deck and will not plug up and
the flail has more knife blades to cut the grass with less effort and fuel.

I have no financial interest in BCS tractors

leon


#4

M

Mac 624

Fortake of a walkbehind:

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We use a compact tractor also and it depends on the space and the work you have to do.

In hilly areas they use large sicklebar walkbehinds for mowing on step hills.

http://www.reform.at/upload/imagebox/M2D_Fingerbalken_freigestellt_LN_1.jpg


#5

ncredleg

ncredleg

:smile: @MAC 624 .That looks like what we called in Korea a one-eyed water buffaloe or it`s common name of walking tractor.I saw them pull some amazing loads with them when I was stationed over there.
They also had a set of floats that they actually walked on the surface with via a cam arrangement.


#6

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Mac 624

ncredleg said:
:smile: @MAC 624 .That looks like what we called in Korea a one-eyed water buffaloe or it`s common name of walking tractor.I saw them pull some amazing loads with them when I was stationed over there.
They also had a set of floats that they actually walked on the surface with via a cam arrangement.
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So the Buffalo is a 4 hp Iseki, towing a czech Agrostroij trailer, with a 200 kg Gutbrod Puma as load

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Really itｴs a mess to do 1 ha with such machines but for larger gardens they are ok. We have some larger machines in former years, real widowmakers with 10 hp Diesel and an weight of 500 kg. you have to look for Hansa, Schmiedag or Holder.


#7

jet62095

jet62095

I'd say Wheel Horse, but that's just my opinion.


#8

J

JayC

canoeks said:
is there an advantage of a 2 wheel tractor for garden maintenance over a Wheel Horse type lawn tractor that has the lift for attachments.
Thanks
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I find it's way to hard to drink beer while operating a 2 wheel tractor vs. rider. Problem solved....

JayC


#9

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meangreenmachine

I've never owned a two wheel tractor, having looked at BCS and Gravely over the years, I agree that the main benefit of a 2-wheel would be maneuverability. Am now on my second Wheel Horse garden tractor, having owned each for 20 years. Am sorta looking about for a new machine but very unfortunate that TORO has discontinued manufacturer of Wheel Horse.::mad:At this point the Wheel Horse still runs well and mows well. But that's not going to last forever. Got a nice buy on a Sears used rear tiller a few years ago for the gardens.


#10

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Mac 624

meangreenmachine said:
Got a nice buy on a Sears used rear tiller a few years ago for the gardens.
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How is this system working? I never have seen it in real, cause it is not common here.

PS: New Rideon Mowers are very expensive in Germany


#11

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meangreenmachine

Mac 624 said:
How is this system working? I never have seen it in real, cause it is not common here.

PS: New Rideon Mowers are very expensive in Germany
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It works great. It is a single purpose two wheel tractor useful for tilling only. There are several different brands in the USA.

Here is a link with photos.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_...ors_Rear Tine Tillers?sbf=Brand&sbv=Craftsman


#12

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Mac 624

meangreenmachine said:
It works great. It is a single purpose two wheel tractor useful for tilling only. There are several different brands in the USA.

Here is a link with photos.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_...ors_Rear Tine Tillers?sbf=Brand&sbv=Craftsman
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Ok...this one we know here, too. But only as MTD. I was thinking about something liket this:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_...or+Attachments_Tillers+&+Cultivators?sLevel=2

I have seen them once in the net, but without own engine. Driven by belt? Guess it was mounted to an Wheel Horse or Cub Cadet.


#13

pchili4

pchili4

leon said:
Very true but if your budget is troublesome the purchase of a "BCS" as an example or a "Grillo"
is miney in the bank.
It is forever tractor as you can always obtain parts-I cannot buy replacement parts for my wheel horse as they are no longer made- makes me wish I had bought a Kubota and been done with it.



The BCS can handle a flail mower, snow blower, rotary finish mower, rototiller
etc. , and the BCS also has the rotary plow option like the old gravelys and they will dig deeper than a standard rototiller, and break virgin or long unused ground but you should have a tiller to use for weeding and bed building.

You can obtain a sulky to ride behind it while mowing which saves on the legs with a big lawn and a flail mower can and will cut deep grass better than a standard mower deck and will not plug up and
the flail has more knife blades to cut the grass with less effort and fuel.

I have no financial interest in BCS tractors

leon
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Have you tried ebay, i get alot of parts off there for my vintage wheelhorses


#14

pchili4

pchili4

I do find lots of parts on ebay, but if anyone knows of a place in Canada would you let me know thanks:thumbsup:


#15

RobertBrown

RobertBrown

meangreenmachine said:
I've never owned a two wheel tractor, having looked at BCS and Gravely over the years, I agree that the main benefit of a 2-wheel would be maneuverability. Am now on my second Wheel Horse garden tractor, having owned each for 20 years. Am sorta looking about for a new machine but very unfortunate that TORO has discontinued manufacturer of Wheel Horse.::mad:At this point the Wheel Horse still runs well and mows well. But that's not going to last forever. Got a nice buy on a Sears used rear tiller a few years ago for the gardens.
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I too have the craftsman (sears) rototiller. Does everything I want it to. The trans seems kind of cheap but it has stayed together. Motor likes to start after sitting for months and that is sure a plus. It's a briggs, a big one (size) probably only 6hp, can't really remember. Good for small tight areas. Don't use it much as i have a 34hp tractor with a 4' disc.


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