Hi all,
Dave from sunny Aberdeen here, recently retired after thirty five years in the North sea helicopter world fixing and flying maintenance duties anyway as you will have guessed i need some information from you knowlegable guys got an MTD 13BA508N600 (2004) RH 135/105 B a thing of beauty,at a knock down price from a friend all working but in serious need of restore ,anything mechanical that needs TLC and i.m a sucker for a project. Needed body restore and so ripped it to bits to methodically inspect everything as deconstructed not in bad shape and usual suspects bearings belts engine adjustments etc ,and while sat in garage decided to leak fuel into intake and engine so needle valve and seat done also. So i would say it is a 90% restore everything going back ok not flashed up the engine yet as waiting for a shutoff valve off ebay before i fit tank back will be sorry to finish it and hand it to son in law as he will get it dirty.Well long story short have really enjoyed this and got into watching Taryl on Youtube and really appreciate his humour and knowledge so suffice to say i've got the bug and wouldn't mind getting another machine to work on, now the question (finally) you say, in the battery tray area i find a red and green wire two pin plug with a plastic clip further down wire which corresponds to no known hole in the area no switches need this plug and it does not reach anything logical which may require it, in short it is driving me nuts and i'm not taking the easy way out here just asking you guys cause i can't be bothered , i have been pouring over the net for a week wiring diagrams etc no luck, so if any one has had one of these machines and knows about this mystery please put me out of my misery sorry so long a post but also by way of introduction and if anyone really interested will post some pics for posterity
so thanks in advance for any help and great to be a member cheers. happy mowing
ps. a similar machine to mine almost identical really and in similar condition can be found on Youtube as 'MTD restoration slideshow ' posted by an irish guy Steve A.
Having got the mower went straight in and started tearing it down which in hindsight may have been a bit premature as not having had one before not familiar with the machine and don't know what was working or not, it was in use and cutting so that was not a problem but didn't give myself the time to get familiar with it hence the mystery wire story, it's just the little plastic locating clip makes it looks like it was used for something ??
usually the only plugs that far back would be the seat switch and perhaps a neutral switch.
Your numbers do not code out for any MTD that i have any information on thus no answer.
Most mowers will run with the neutral switch removed or disconnected.
Thanks for your reply, whatever it was it was running ok without it, i see a switch on the trans which i presumed was for maybe reverse to stop blades cutting ? it is connected to a wire, not familiar with neutral switch , nothing else anywhere in radius of wire travel that it could possibly connect to as i say just bugging me i don't know what it is.
Bit of a breakthrough found wiring diagram (motoruf) site and closer inspection of cables reveals red/black tracer and green to plug is 'bag full' so must assume my model was not out the factory with this? don't know if this was a light or warn sound ? any info gratefully recieved pleased i finally know what it is ........... now obsessed with geting it to work
So i have the plug and wiring for grass bag full but would like to know how a typical system works, is it a light or buzzer and how is it detected, maybe i could get it working on my machine ?
Ok with the total lack of information anywhere ,net ,forums suppose i'm doomed to just look in the bag to see if it's full practical but no fun, or i suppose i could utilise a motion sensor in the chute and when movement stops triggers an alarm/light shuts the mower down and ejects me from the seat should be able to do it for a couple of thousand dollars.
So i have the plug and wiring for grass bag full but would like to know how a typical system works, is it a light or buzzer and how is it detected, maybe i could get it working on my machine ?
They are not usual.
In fact bag full indicators are very rarely fitted to domestic mowers.
You know when the bags are full because the chute blocks or the excess grass pours out the overflow & all over the operator.
Generally it is only mowers with solid bags like Grasshopper, Walkers, Ferris etc that have a warning system
Some are buzzers while others turn off the blades because you really can not see or hear a buzzer or lamp when mowing.
One thing still puzzles me that is if it was so rare to have this system why was mine wired up for it and in the grass catcher supplement it says ' where fitted'
also the wiring diagram calls out plug connection and supply plug connection , would still love to know how this system worked and if anyone still got an MDT 135/105 B and could fill in the blanks on this one also nice to know for historical interest, no information whatsoever on MDT website or net that i can find so reaching out to the community here cheers.
Well seems like full bag warn system is not as rare as Bert stated, the mountfield range has them seem to work on amount of grass pressing on lever/micro s/w but cant find other components on parts diagrams unless signal goes through some pcb should be easy enough to get working so this has got back out of bed and is ongoing.
Probably a locality thing.
As mentioned the only mowers down here to have them are high end machines with solid catchers.
There are a lot of things which are different.
Most of the walk behinds down here have air snorkels & high filters.
None of the USA imports have them.
We use swing back blades the USA does not.
Yeah i get that Bert, just like cars can't keep up with whats fitted here and whats fitted there, hoping that someone with an elderly MTD with that system could fill me in with a few details on it cheers.
Afraid thats it for me on this forum, two replies one one of negligble use and another trying to help but knowledge resource on here seems very low ,what i have learnt about my ride on is all self taught and researched, so i will return to that, its been a hoot but has advanced me zero in real terms so bye and good luck to all ,as work to do, will be starting the machine today or tomorrow after rebuild, and if i have problems dont worry i wont be troubling any of you for guidance, ie dont read about it do it. CHEERS
got two holes on deck lifting arms no information in manual so in lower hole last two slots in selector lever 1 and 2 has no effect ,does common sense dictate i change it to the upper holes, if so why are there two? thanks in advance
Because there are multiple decks used with the same tractor.
Some of the decks will also have redundant mounting holes so it can be used with a different tractor.
have a good look at the side chassis rails.
You will see lots of holes with nothing in them because the same chassis was used for both geared & varidrive transmissions.
Lots of parts wer common to a large number of slight variations on the same theme.
The JD 42" edge deck we get down here is common to 4 different mowers so the front mounting tang has 3 holes in it.
I am forever going to customers who have put the front drag link in the wrong hole.
