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PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

This deck is screwy. It's one with the manual PTO. Since there's no hood, and I can't find the right belt for it, I'm at a loss.
The parts diagrams I'm looking at, (1 on Partstree and the other on Jacks), doesn't even show a belt. Parts tree lists a belt. But gives no part number. Just says "unavailable."

The two idlers are bolted to the bottom of the mower frame. Not on top of the deck. If I had a length/width measurement, I could get a belt.

Has anyone ran across this one, and know what deck belt this is supposed to have?


#2

Scrubcadet10

Scrubcadet10

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#3

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

Scrubcadet10 said:
click ----->
www.partstree.com

PartsTree - Home of OEM Parts for Outdoor Power Equipment

Parts lookup and repair parts diagrams for outdoor equipment like Toro mowers, Cub Cadet tractors, Husqvarna chainsaws, Echo trimmers, Briggs engines, etc.
www.partstree.com www.partstree.com
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That's the one I ordered. But it's way too short. Looking at a different diagram, seems it calls for a 754-0485, which is 97 1/4. I've got a 97" belt, but it's about 1/2" to 1" too loose.

But I think I'm narrowing it down.


#4

Scrubcadet10

Scrubcadet10

That's odd, thats in the parts list for that model number.
BUT (there's always a but) I noticed in the parts list it lists different deck shell part numbers, i wonder if multiple decks were used on that mower, might need to determine it by the serial number?


#5

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

Scrubcadet10 said:
That's odd, thats in the parts list for that model number.
BUT (there's always a but) I noticed in the parts list it lists different deck shell part numbers, i wonder if multiple decks were used on that mower, might need to determine it by the serial number?
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This model came with an manual PTO and an electric one. Maybe they got the part numbers mixed up. 95 1/2 is still too loose. I'm getting closer. But I ran out of new belts (in stock) to try and fit. I may call the parts house.


#6

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

Question: If I can pull the belt 1" away from the inside of the pulley, how much shorter of a belt do I need?


#7

StarTech

StarTech

954-0485 for single belt design. Are you sure you are routing the belt correctly?

13AQ 42 single belt.JPG


#8

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

By the time it was all said and done, it was a 91/3/4 deck belt.
Had to remove a belt guide (small OD metal rod) the other shop had put that was all in the way. It was L shaped. (not even on the parts diagram) Once I got that off, it freed up about 1/4 belt tension.
Now everything is back on. I mowed about 1/4 acre, engaging and disengaging the belt around each corner. It stayed on. And I didn't smell anything. Soooo, I guessing it's all good.

One thing I didn't like, was the two idler pulleys the other shop put on. They were plastic and didn't have much of a lip on them. I told the customer about it, but he says to just leave'm and he'll get the other shop to put the right ones on it. The OEM ones are metal and have higher lip.


#9

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

StarTech said:
954-0485 for single belt design. Are you sure you are routing the belt correctly?

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I'm correct in the routing. The routing sticker is still on the deck.


Crap, you got me thinking now. Wondering if I routed it backwards?

Ok, I just went and double checked. And I have it on right. I'm thinking that maybe the other shop have the wrong idlers on it.


#10

Mower King

Mower King

PTmowerMech said:
This deck is screwy. It's one with the manual PTO. Since there's no hood, and I can't find the right belt for it, I'm at a loss.
The parts diagrams I'm looking at, (1 on Partstree and the other on Jacks), doesn't even show a belt. Parts tree lists a belt. But gives no part number. Just says "unavailable."

The two idlers are bolted to the bottom of the mower frame. Not on top of the deck. If I had a length/width measurement, I could get a belt.

Has anyone ran across this one, and know what deck belt this is supposed to have?
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Were you looking for the sticker on the hood that has all the part #'s on it? I have seen those stickers have the wrong part #'s on them before, even on new products. I look them up now, just to make sure, after trying to struggle with a wrong size belt!


#11

StarTech

StarTech

PTmowerMech said:
By the time it was all said and done, it was a 91/3/4 deck belt.
Had to remove a belt guide (small OD metal rod) the other shop had put that was all in the way. It was L shaped. (not even on the parts diagram) Once I got that off, it freed up about 1/4 belt tension.
Now everything is back on. I mowed about 1/4 acre, engaging and disengaging the belt around each corner. It stayed on. And I didn't smell anything. Soooo, I guessing it's all good.

One thing I didn't like, was the two idler pulleys the other shop put on. They were plastic and didn't have much of a lip on them. I told the customer about it, but he says to just leave'm and he'll get the other shop to put the right ones on it. The OEM ones are metal and have higher lip.
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Very possible. Or even the wrong engine pulley is possible with all the DIYers out there. I hate working on equipment that other so-called shops have worked on.

I looked up those flat idlers and the ipl indicates that MTD used metal ones (756-0627D) which Stens 280-135 are the replacements. Besides whenever I can I use metal versions; just don't the plastic ones here.

BTW parts for this area is shown under the "PTO Drive, Battery, Frame Components Parts Diagram" of the IPL. Just to reference for future parts look-ups.


#12

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

StarTech said:
Very possible. Or even the wrong engine pulley is possible with all the DIYers out there. I hate working on equipment that other so-called shops have worked on.

I looked up those flat idlers and the ipl indicates that MTD used metal ones (756-0627D) which Stens 280-135 are the replacements. Besides whenever I can I use metal versions; just don't the plastic ones here.

BTW parts for this area is shown under the "PTO Drive, Battery, Frame Components Parts Diagram" of the IPL. Just to reference for future parts look-ups.
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According to the diagram, the engine pulley (a weird shaped one), is the one on this mower.

I gotta get back under there and cut some hand made cable thing that's ties the tensioner to the bracket by the right spindle. I'm going to measure those idlers while i'm down there. Like you, I don't care for plastic pulleys. When they lock up, seems like they'd scratch the belt moreso than metal ones. Plus I think metal ones, when the bearings go out, are loader and easier to hear.


#13

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

mower king said:
Were you looking for the sticker on the hood that has all the part #'s on it? I have seen those stickers have the wrong part #'s on them before, even on new products. I look them up now, just to make sure, after trying to struggle with a wrong size belt!
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LoL, it has not hood. Only the two side engine panels, bolted on with a couple of license plates and held by a bungee strap on top. The routing sticker was on the deck.


#14

Richie F

Richie F

Looking at the deck picture the belt for non electric PTO is 754-0497.
The 2 idler pulleys are 3 1/2 " OD.
The electric version uses the same pulley,but only one.
This is for a 42" deck.

www.partstree.com

PartsTree - Home of OEM Parts for Outdoor Power Equipment

Parts lookup and repair parts diagrams for outdoor equipment like Toro mowers, Cub Cadet tractors, Husqvarna chainsaws, Echo trimmers, Briggs engines, etc.
www.partstree.com www.partstree.com


#15

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

Richie F said:
Looking at the deck picture the belt for non electric PTO is 754-0497.
The 2 idler pulleys are 3 1/2 " OD.
The electric version uses the same pulley,but only one.
This is for a 42" deck.

www.partstree.com

PartsTree - Home of OEM Parts for Outdoor Power Equipment

Parts lookup and repair parts diagrams for outdoor equipment like Toro mowers, Cub Cadet tractors, Husqvarna chainsaws, Echo trimmers, Briggs engines, etc.
www.partstree.com www.partstree.com
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I almost missed this diagram when I first started researching this mower. The deck belts were not on the mower deck diagram.


#16

Mower King

Mower King

PTmowerMech said:
LoL, it has not hood. Only the two side engine panels, bolted on with a couple of license plates and held by a bungee strap on top. The routing sticker was on the deck.
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My boss, which is the owner of the dealership, is often calling the stuff I work on junk.....I always say, if it wasn't for junk....I wouldn't have a job!


#17

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

PTmowerMech said:
LoL, it has not hood. Only the two side engine panels, bolted on with a couple of license plates and held by a bungee strap on top. The routing sticker was on the deck.
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That custom body work usually costs a lot. Don't scratch the paint it could be a collectible.


#18

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

mower king said:
My boss, which is the owner of the dealership, is often calling the stuff I work on junk.....I always say, if it wasn't for junk....I wouldn't have a job!
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That seems to be all I've gotten in the last two weeks. Broke customers, with junk. I just started another thread on a transmission I just discovered. Gotta change the drive belt on this other one. So I start at the engine pulley, get it loose so I can get the rest off easy, right? That was a bunch of trouble. But I got it. Next, I had to get the steering gear off. Another lot of trouble. But I got it, by god. Next is a flat idler. His was junk. But I didn't have another in stock, I pulled a good used one off one of my parts mowers (in the dirt), repacked it and got it on there. Only to find out that the main shaft coming out of the transmission has like an inch of slop in it.

This darn 30 minute job is fighting me the whole way.


#19

B

bertsmobile1

When the new solenoid comes in I will try to remember top get some pickies of the franken mower currently working on.
STX chassis Yardman hood & deck to get them to work together the bypass lever was cut off .


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