The benefits of PD.

PTmowerMech

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Got in touch the Oregon the other day and they sent me to Power Distributors. I chatted with the guy who handles my area, which he lined out all I'd have to do to get set up with them.
Question is, is there much of a real benefit to signing up with them? Other than the OEM parts.
I wasn't real happy with line of credit I have to sign up for initially. And the minimum order I had to make initially.
I'm sure they have their own reasons for doing it. But some weeks I have a hard time meeting the now $150 for free shipping that Sten's has.
I just don't want them to turn into just another thing I have to keep track of, that has no real benefits.
 

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Try to keep track of a Kohler distributor, a Briggs distributor, a MTD, Earthquake, Generac/Dr, Subaru,Hydro-gear distributor, a Honda distributor, Stens, Greenworks, Karcher, Simpson pressure washer distributor. And the Kohler, Briggs, and MTD distributor also distribute Oregon.
 

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That's what I don't to get myself into. How do you have time to work on anything? That sounds like a nightmare.
 

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You have to work your parts orders. Like if I need MTD parts, but also need a cheap Briggs part or Kohler part, My MTD distributor also has OEM Briggs and Kohler parts but you only get like a 10% discount on parts compared to dealer pricing at the correct distributor. It is cheaper to give up some discount sometimes to avoid freight charges.

Now my MTD distributor requires $200 orders to get freight free, only if you order over $4000 in parts per year. PD allows freight free orders over $150 after qualifying with a ,minimum $500 spring order. Kohler distributor allows free freight over $175 only after qualifying $1000 spring order. Complete engines don't qualify for free freight unless they meet certain criteria . I think PD is $1500 on large engines for free freight. So a single Intek twin is $75 freight delivered by tractor trailer or free freight if you order two engines. Small engines have their own qualification but the price of the engine doesn't go toward the minimum order requirement for free freight if you order other items.
 

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You get used to it pretty quick.
I now know which parts to order from what distributor to get the best price
And which distributor to go to for fastest delivery .
It might not sound like much , but $ 2 extra mark up on every oil filter is around $ 600 / year and that is the equivalent to doing 4 full services.
With Stens in particular I add a couple of trade packs to fill out an order if need be so a 20 pack of Briggs air filters and a dozen pack or two of oil filters will bring up the $ 150 minimum really quick and get a better unit price on the parts to boot.
It is good when you go through an invoice with a customer and point out you fitted a USA made Champion filter for less than a Wix from Npatha or a Chinese one from Wallys or HF
Then there are blades.
At least 2 sets of the AYP blades for 42" 44" 50" & 60" decks are handy to have on hand.
Easy to sell a set of blades when you have them in stock, a lot harder when it is "you need new blades they will be here in a day or two"
Ditto for MTD blades, Toro blades & even JD blades.
Currently I have at least 1 full set of blade for 60 different decks and for most of them the belts & idlers as well .
So when some one comes to the gate and asks for parts the answer is usually YES, so that person will keep coming back and tell his neighbours & friends that you have the parts in stock that the dealer didn't .
If you haven't got it then you can't sell it, simple sales rule.
It is a bit easier down here because the mower mafia runs 100% to 200% mark up on parts so I can order 2 , add 150% mark up and end up with a profit & a part for stock.
When I took over the business there were two shadow boards for idler pulleys, probably around 30 all up .
By ordering 2 pulleys every time I needed one there is now 140 idlers in the drawer so when the mower come in for a new belt I can say
"this idler is on it's last legs & if it goes it will take the new belt with it, want me to do the pulley while I am doing the belt "
So wham bam thank you mam, belt, blade set & 2 idler pulleys in place of just a single belt & I still add a single $ 20 fitting fee, which you tell them has saved them $ 40 if they let the pulleys go till they broke & same for the blades.
Customer leaves feeling happy & like he has saved money when he has actually spent 3 times what he was originally going to.

Also by doing a once a week or fourtnight order to replace stock then it is easy to meet free delivery minimums .

I do not fit genuine anything if I can avoid it because Briggs demanded that I keep a $ 30,000 inventory in order to qualify for a trade account & Kohler wanted $ 25,000.
When I need genuine Briggs parts I order them through JD dealer and I get the Kohler parts through him as well so I get 20% off retail and than also means 20% of GST ( sales tax ) as well.
When the $ ( aus) goes over 70¢ ( USA ) then I send the order to Jack Small Engines.
I have an order for them of around $ 300 at the moment, again replacing stock items .

Mr Haark who I bought the business from, would send an order in for almost every job so he would do a diagnosis ,place an order then on to the next job so he might place more than a dozen orders in a single week.
He would also add a $ 20 delivery fee to every job that was needed to be done urgently .
I am only putting in one or two orders a month to each supplier because most of what I need I have in stock .
 

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I have yet to run into anything I couldn't get from Stens, Jacks, Ereplacement (which is turtle slow with their shipping and delivery) and/or Amazon/Ebay.

So the benefits I'm looking for with PD, in just the few replies, I'm not seeing.

@bertsmobile1, I'm with you on the ordering more than you need. I've only had two jobs in the 3 weeks this shop has been open, that i had what the customer needed. It's nice having what I need in stock, getting the job done and calling the customer that same say and telling them it's ready.
Especially since the other shops in town are about 2 months out.
Obvious, when I start getting enough business to get a while behind, it's going to be even more important to have what I need in stock.
 

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Things are slower this than last year here too. I am currently running at 50% of last revenue at the time frame.

Hmmm, Strange PD want you to have a credit line. When I signed up all I needed was $300 initial order; but of course, I used my CC for purchases. Now thier policy may have changed since I signed up.

I don't order thru them much as I have a better Oregon distributor currently and another Briggs distributor that has a better discount the PD trade discount. For Kohler I have two good distributors; one out Oregon and Gardner. Most my Husqvarna and MTD stuff comes from Gardner. At least Gardner is multi distributor of parts which helps.

As said IL said above you got to play the shipping game. Yes sometimes others a slightly higher but have free shipping which in the end cost less overall. Something comes into play and that is how quick you need something. For Gardner is one day out. PD, A&I, Stens, and RBI are usually two days out. The exception is A&I when I am ordering Briggs parts then it is 3 days (used to be 2 days when they were Sunbelt) where PD is two days.

Now I do know Jack's do have a commercial account available if you apply for one. Gives you a small discount over their online prices when you order while logged into your account.

Even though these distributors have timely deliveries it is still best have some commonly used parts on hand so you can place restocking order instead small ones. Definitely don't want to place small orders with A&I. They eat you alive on shipping. On the last orders I placed would cost $45 in shipping if it wasn't for me adding a universal pull rope kit to the order so it was $200.25. Even a $100 order cost me $25 in shipping from them.

I think your problem currently is the volume that you can do. When I first started it was nearly impossible to sign up for accounts with discounts. As you gain business and volume you can revist these distributors and reapply. It took me nearly 9 nine year before I could get in with Gardner and RBI. But when I did get in I became a lot more competative to the local shops.
 

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Oregon sent me to PD. Which made me think they were an Oregon dealer. That's all I was looking for, was to buy from Oregon.

I'm taking baby steps. Not wanting to end up like @ILENGINE. I'm not sure my brain could keep track of all those different distributors. Especially if it was just over a few bucks savings from one.
Obviously, I don't wanna just throw away money. As has been mentioned, a few bucks here and a few there, adds up.
Oregon is/was going to be used to fill in what Stens does have. So I wouldn't have to buy from Amazon/Ebay.
 

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Oregon sent me to PD. Which made me think they were an Oregon dealer. That's all I was looking for, was to buy from Oregon.

I'm taking baby steps. Not wanting to end up like @ILENGINE. I'm not sure my brain could keep track of all those different distributors. Especially if it was just over a few bucks savings from one.
Obviously, I don't wanna just throw away money. As has been mentioned, a few bucks here and a few there, adds up.
Oregon is/was going to be used to fill in what Stens does have. So I wouldn't have to buy from Amazon/Ebay.
Not as many distributors as it sounds. Medart is Kohler, Tecumseh, Oregon. PD is Briggs, Brute, Murray, Oregon, Oscar Wilson is MTD Craftsman, Troybilt, , Generac/DR, Hydro-gear, Poulan Pro, Oregon, Earthquake, but are also a trade account for Briggs, Kohler, Honda, Toro, Swisher, Tecumseh. Pace is Honda, and Gardner Dixie Sales is Karcher, Greenworks, Simpson. And then Stens.

How some of that comes about is due to say MTD requires Briggs, Kohler, Hydrogear, Honda to qualify for their dealership. New dealers are also required to have Engine Service Association qualifications in 2 cycle, 4 cycle and hydraulics.
 

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I hear ya. Most distributors don't want to deal with the really small time operators like me and i understand that. Stens seems to be the least aggressive distributor. If i can't get it from stens I just order from an online source (jack's, pat's) I don't stock a lot of inventory other than carb stuff and general maintenance items. Haveing a distributor to work with for Oregon and Rotary would be nice, but not happenibg so far. Shipping charges just get passed along to the customer. If a customer wants OEM i get OEM as long as they know i am basically buying retail and i am marking up the parts. Do you really want that John Deere Kawasaki air cleaner $56 Screenshot_20200605-135304_Chrome.jpgmy cost from dealer or one half that from Stens?
 
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