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I bought a nice 4501 on Craigslist today spent a high price of $5 on this beast, anyways I cleaned it up put new lines on it and good fuel an pulled twice and runs great. It's missing the air cleaner cover and fuel cap. Mower is in dang good shape to be around a late 70s model. Questions I have, what engine does this mower have and do the four corner wheel deck mower carry any value?

1980 with a D411 engine.

You got a great deal. It's nice to hear that somebody in the South is finding LB deals. It's been slim pickings down here in Gaw-Jaa.

The steel deck on your new mower is a minus (relative to an alloy deck), IMO.

Probably another failed attempt at the better industrial type mower, the 80's were big for trying to improve on old designs even though the older designs usually ran and performed better. Nice engine though and pretty good deal!!:thumbsup:

I like the alloy decks , but this mower is really light guess because it has no extras on it. I used it all day cutting 3' grass and it done great little hard to start some times

DiamondCuts said:

I like the alloy decks , but this mower is really light guess because it has no extras on it. I used it all day cutting 3' grass and it done great little hard to start some times

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If it is a bit hard to start when hot just change the two oil seals on the crankshaft.

impalass said:

If it is a bit hard to start when hot just change the two oil seals on the crankshaft.

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Dead on with the bad seals, they were busted all up. So digging into it that far guess I'm going to do a rebuild. Now the puzzler when I pulled the point cover off the was just a little tab laying in one of the valleys ill attach a pic, any ideas on what it is and where it goes:confused2:

DiamondCuts said:

Dead on with the bad seals, they were busted all up. So digging into it that far guess I'm going to do a rebuild. Now the puzzler when I pulled the point cover off the was just a little tab laying in one of the valleys ill attach a pic, any ideas on what it is and where it goes:confused2:

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No clue, p/n for the seals is 611396

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Governor question, mine is missing the rod no problem I can find that but it there a spring that goes on the other side opposite of where the rod goes? I know there is one under the weights

DiamondCuts said:

Governor question, mine is missing the rod no problem I can find that but it there a spring that goes on the other side opposite of where the rod goes? I know there is one under the weights

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Rod p/n is 604297 and you should have a spring to hold down the governor lever but i can't find it. On a 8252 setup the spring p/n is 608993. If your engine is a single speed you might not need the spring.

What's the best way to put the crank seals in?

Well I got it all back together thanks to the great people at jacks small engines, took me some pulling and getting pissed it wouldn't start but found out points were off, but runs great now, thanks people:thumbsup:

DiamondCuts said:

Dead on with the bad seals, they were busted all up. So digging into it that far guess I'm going to do a rebuild. Now the puzzler when I pulled the point cover off the was just a little tab laying in one of the valleys ill attach a pic, any ideas on what it is and where it goes:confused2:

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That "tab" goes under one of the armature plate screws (the top plate that holds the points and top seal and bearing), and is for holding down the coil wire that goes to the points and condenser. This would indicate the coil may have been replaced at some time, as you have to take this up to get coil ware completely free to remove coil.

I personally prefer the alloy decks to the steel decks because of the deck, weight, plus the fact the shape actually helps improve the look of the cut grass plus, the position of the grass chute works better and is clog free compared to the steel side discharge decks. Been running lawnboy's for a longtime and it's hard to beat the levelness of the cut or the clog free nature of the front mounted grass chute

I prefer alloy because they'll last forever unless hit by a sharp, heavy object. Steel will rust.