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Super Z stearing-hydro problems
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RBishop
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RBishop
Hello Everyone. I'm brend new here but have a problem. I bought a 2020 Super Z over the weekend. It has a steering issue and my hydraulic oil is also foaming.
First the steering . It is on the left side only. When I start the mower I have nothing on the left side. I can move the lever either way and nothing. Now if I drive some using the right, it seems to pick up in 30-60 seconds, and clears pretty quickly then drives fine. It acts like nothing is there, starts working and fixes itself fairly fast, but not immediately.
Now as far as the hydro oil foaming. I did put some air pressure on the tank tonight and found a small leak at a suction line fitting. I haven't fixed it yet but it has a hose clamp on it. I think I can add another and fix it.
I don't think the 2 are related being one is on the right and one 1on the left. Someone said something about a spring in my pump?
First the steering . It is on the left side only. When I start the mower I have nothing on the left side. I can move the lever either way and nothing. Now if I drive some using the right, it seems to pick up in 30-60 seconds, and clears pretty quickly then drives fine. It acts like nothing is there, starts working and fixes itself fairly fast, but not immediately.
Now as far as the hydro oil foaming. I did put some air pressure on the tank tonight and found a small leak at a suction line fitting. I haven't fixed it yet but it has a hose clamp on it. I think I can add another and fix it.
I don't think the 2 are related being one is on the right and one 1on the left. Someone said something about a spring in my pump?
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Tiger Small Engine
Tiger Small Engine
Try the purge procedure for hydraulic system. Jack up mower , put on jack stands, and go through purging process. Read online for details whether it is transaxles or hydro pumps.Hello Everyone. I'm brend new here but have a problem. I bought a 2020 Super Z over the weekend. It has a steering issue and my hydraulic oil is also foaming.
First the steering . It is on the left side only. When I start the mower I have nothing on the left side. I can move the lever either way and nothing. Now if I drive some using the right, it seems to pick up in 30-60 seconds, and clears pretty quickly then drives fine. It acts like nothing is there, starts working and fixes itself fairly fast, but not immediately.
Now as far as the hydro oil foaming. I did put some air pressure on the tank tonight and found a small leak at a suction line fitting. I haven't fixed it yet but it has a hose clamp on it. I think I can add another and fix it.
I don't think the 2 are related being one is on the right and one 1on the left. Someone said something about a spring in my pump?
#3
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RBishop
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RBishop
Thanks. Do I need to change the oilsince it has foamed? Or I should ask, us it necessary?Try the purge procedure for hydraulic system. Jack up mower , put on jack stands, and go through purging process. Read online for details whether it is transaxles or hydro pumps.
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sgkent
sgkent
moisture in oil or over fill can also cause foaming in some systems. If the oil is milky in color or chocolate in color after the foam goes away, it could be a sign of moisture.
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S.A.E.
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S.A.E.
What brand and model pump? Do you have the service manual? Stupid question here..... do you have the data to show you how to measure to full? What oil (((HIINT: ALL work on XX-50 synthetic motor oil. WalMart). did you flush and change the flluids? did you locate and clean breathers? Did you bleed per manual? Some folks think this is too much trouble. pfffft.
AHello Everyone. I'm brend new here but have a problem. I bought a 2020 Super Z over the weekend. It has a steering issue and my hydraulic oil is also foaming.
First the steering . It is on the left side only. When I start the mower I have nothing on the left side. I can move the lever either way and nothing. Now if I drive some using the right, it seems to pick up in 30-60 seconds, and clears pretty quickly then drives fine. It acts like nothing is there, starts working and fixes itself fairly fast, but not immediately.
Now as far as the hydro oil foaming. I did put some air pressure on the tank tonight and found a small leak at a suction line fitting. I haven't fixed it yet but it has a hose clamp on it. I think I can add another and fix it.
I don't think the 2 are related being one is on the right and one 1on the left. Someone said something about a spring in my pump?
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S.A.E.
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S.A.E.
you do know the quote, right? OIL CHANGES are the cheapest and most effective form of maintenance.Thanks. Do I need to change the oilsince it has foamed? Or I should ask, us it necessary?
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S.A.E.
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S.A.E.
Do you have the appropriate service and overhaul / parts manuals?Hello Everyone. I'm brend new here but have a problem. I bought a 2020 Super Z over the weekend. It has a steering issue and my hydraulic oil is also foaming.
First the steering . It is on the left side only. When I start the mower I have nothing on the left side. I can move the lever either way and nothing. Now if I drive some using the right, it seems to pick up in 30-60 seconds, and clears pretty quickly then drives fine. It acts like nothing is there, starts working and fixes itself fairly fast, but not immediately.
Now as far as the hydro oil foaming. I did put some air pressure on the tank tonight and found a small leak at a suction line fitting. I haven't fixed it yet but it has a hose clamp on it. I think I can add another and fix it.
I don't think the 2 are related being one is on the right and one 1on the left. Someone said something about a spring in my pump?
#8
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RBishop
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RBishop
Thanks. That's what I was wondering.moisture in oil or over fill can also cause foaming in some systems. If the oil is milky in color or chocolate in color after the foam goes away, it could be a sign of moisture.
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RBishop
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RBishop
Yes, I have it downloaded. I'm not real mechanically inclined so I ask a lot of questions, it is pretty vague about some thingsDo you have the appropriate service and overhaul / parts manuals?
#10
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RBishop
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RBishop
I was mainly asking to see if I can try and see if i have the problem fixed before I spend $200.00 and ruin the new oilyou do know the quote, right? OIL CHANGES are the cheapest and most effective form of maintenance.
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RBishop
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RBishop
I'm working on all that. I have downloaded the manual. I wasn't sure about the oil, that is good to know....substantial price differenceWhat brand and model pump? Do you have the service manual? Stupid question here..... do you have the data to show you how to measure to full? What oil (((HIINT: ALL work on XX-50 synthetic motor oil. WalMart). did you flush and change the flluids? did you locate and clean breathers? Did you bleed per manual? Some folks think this is too much trouble. pfffft.
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S.A.E.
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Ask away. remember. DO NOT touch a transmission in any fashion until GENTLY cleaned externally of ALL debris and grease. Be mindful that pressure washers can do great damage... or any water incursion, for that matter. What brand and model are you working on?Yes, I have it downloaded. I'm not real mechanically inclined so I ask a lot of questions, it is pretty vague about some things
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$200? on what? MANY/most trans are just victims of dirt, dirty filters, water, and ALWAY failure to change oil. see manual for procedures. BE ADVISEd. cheaper trans state can't be serviced. THEY ALL LIE! First things: clean everything, decide how to remove oil, check breather, replace oil. This works fine and the blend often is more helpful than full synthetic. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Te...arch&sid=66a187be-ff68-4a71-9118-356f97dcb364I was mainly asking to see if I can try and see if i have the problem fixed before I spend $200.00 and ruin the new oil
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S.A.E.
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anyway, clean it till you can eat supper off of it. then check fluid level and filter (check for chunks)
. fill, try. then change oil
What brand and model pump? Do you have the service manual? Stupid question here..... do you have the data to show you how to measure to full? What oil (((HIINT: ALL work on XX-50 synthetic motor oil. WalMart). did you flush and change the flluids? did you locate and clean breathers? Did you bleed per manual? Some folks think this is too much trouble. pfffft.
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. fill, try. then change oil
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RBishop
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RBishop
High dollar oil and a $80.00 filter was my thoughts. I'm seeing from you guys I can get by cheaper....$200? on what? MANY/most trans are just victims of dirt, dirty filters, water, and ALWAY failure to change oil. see manual for procedures. BE ADVISEd. cheaper trans state can't be serviced. THEY ALL LIE! First things: clean everything, decide how to remove oil, check breather, replace oil. This works fine and the blend often is more helpful than full synthetic. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech-All-Mileage-Synthetic-Blend-Motor-Oil-SAE-20W-50-5-Quarts/618910207?classType=VARIANT&from=/search&sid=66a187be-ff68-4a71-9118-356f97dcb364
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just type the part numbers into the URL line and find a suitorHigh dollar oil and a $80.00 filter was my thoughts. I'm seeing from you guys I can get by cheaper....
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RBishop
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RBishop
Thanks. It's a 2020 Super Z HD 60"Ask away. remember. DO NOT touch a transmission in any fashion until GENTLY cleaned externally of ALL debris and grease. Be mindful that pressure washers can do great damage... or any water incursion, for that matter. What brand and model are you working on?
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RBishop
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Did not know that....thanks Muchjust type the part numbers into the URL line and find a suitor
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pump numbers and models are on a dataplate on the pump(s) themselves. I might be able give some shortcuts That is why I asked for pump model.Thanks. It's a 2020 Super Z HD 60"
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RBishop
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RBishop
I'll look later and see if I can find them and post them. Thankspump numbers and models are on a dataplate on the pump(s) themselves. I might be able give some shortcuts That is why I asked for pump model.
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Skippydiesel
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As the owner of an old industrial level Hustler Super Z, I am aware that the Supe Z designation now seems to cover a wide range of mowers in the brand.
Might be a good idea to give your actual model/engine/hp/deck size
Might be a good idea to give your actual model/engine/hp/deck size
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ohiodave53
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ohiodave53
Had a similar experience with my full size Z (not super though). One side wouldn't move either direction, and the other side barely moved so I was dead in the water. Lifted the seat and oil was foaming out of the tank and it was all over the place. Cracked both by-pass valves, blead the system enough to get the foaming stopped and manage to get back to the garage. This happened again later on and admit I was at a loss to what to do so I figured I'd change the oil and filter. When I reached up to take the filter off it was not even close to being tightly seated. Finished with the oil change and new filter. Turned out the loose filter was the total problem. It had been on there for I don't know how long and figured the gasket must have degraded enough so that it was no longer a tight seal.Hello Everyone. I'm brend new here but have a problem. I bought a 2020 Super Z over the weekend. It has a steering issue and my hydraulic oil is also foaming.
First the steering . It is on the left side only. When I start the mower I have nothing on the left side. I can move the lever either way and nothing. Now if I drive some using the right, it seems to pick up in 30-60 seconds, and clears pretty quickly then drives fine. It acts like nothing is there, starts working and fixes itself fairly fast, but not immediately.
Now as far as the hydro oil foaming. I did put some air pressure on the tank tonight and found a small leak at a suction line fitting. I haven't fixed it yet but it has a hose clamp on it. I think I can add another and fix it.
I don't think the 2 are related being one is on the right and one 1on the left. Someone said something about a spring in my pump?
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I thought you said you had the manuals? ....I'll look later and see if I can find them and post them. Thanks
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ohiodave53
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Point of my post is that I believe you are sucking air into the system. The air is causing the foam, not the oil. I found my loose filter just by pure luck. I have had no problems since replacing the filter with proper tightness There was no indication that the old filter was "loose" as there was no leakage of oil at all. It was perfectly dry on the outside. The gap between the filter gasket and the housing had to be near microscopic. No idea how to isolate the air infiltration in your case other than to start checking fittings, etc