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Spark arrestor?

#1

D

DonCT

Hi all.

I have a 2007 mower with a Honda GCV160 engine. I replaced the spark plug and air filter this year (both had also been replaced once before).

Looking at the manual, it says to clean the spark arrestor every 100 hours. Is this really necessary and can it be done by a homeowner with average Black & Decker tools/skills? The reason for my question is that the manual is pretty vague about how the arrestor mounts inside the muffler guard, saying only to "remove the two special screws" that hold it in.

Special screws makes me nervous that I'll either break it trying the get it out or I'll get it out and be unable to get it back in.


#2

Ric

Ric

Hi all.

I have a 2007 mower with a Honda GCV160 engine. I replaced the spark plug and air filter this year (both had also been replaced once before).

Looking at the manual, it says to clean the spark arrestor every 100 hours. Is this really necessary and can it be done by a homeowner with average Black & Decker tools/skills? The reason for my question is that the manual is pretty vague about how the arrestor mounts inside the muffler guard, saying only to "remove the two special screws" that hold it in.

Special screws makes me nervous that I'll either break it trying the get it out or I'll get it out and be unable to get it back in.

The thing I'd see is if it even has the spark arrestor or not, some do and some don't depending on where the unit was made and sold. Certain parts of the country require them like California. If it has the arrestor it's just a screen under the plate that needs the carbon build up cleaned. the screws shouldn't be anything special just remove them and clean the screen with a small wire brush and put it back together. Shouldn't be a problem.


#3

M

Mini Motors

"Special Screw" could just be a Torx.


#4

Ric

Ric

"Special Screw" could just be a Torx.

Could be possible but I've never seen those used, Echo and Stihl both use just regular Philips-head screws on there equipment.


#5

exotion

exotion

Could be possible but I've never seen those used, Echo and Stihl both use just regular Philips-head screws on there equipment.

My old echo blower needs ellen wrenches. Both my 225 need a torx bit :/


#6

Ric

Ric

My old echo blower needs ellen wrenches. Both my 225 need a torx bit :/

I never ran one of the Echo blowers but my SRM 210 trimmer and PE 200 edger both had Philips-head screws but they are the old gray covered engines. All my Stihl except the Br 380 have Philips-head screws the 380 has a spring clamp that hold the arrestor in.


#7

D

DonCT

Thanks for the feedback. In reading my manual again, I see the spark arrestor is listed as "optional." Since I bought my mower at a big box chain store, I'm guessing it doesn't even have one.


#8

exotion

exotion

Thanks for the feedback. In reading my manual again, I see the spark arrestor is listed as "optional." Since I bought my mower at a big box chain store, I'm guessing it doesn't even have one.

On the contrary it probably does.. big box stores don't put them together they probably came from the factory in a box with an arrestor in it.


#9

robert@honda

robert@honda

Honda lawn mowers do NOT come with a spark arrester. A spark arrester is an optional kit you can order from any Honda dealer.

Spark arresters are required on many types of outdoor power equipment (including mowers, generators, etc.) that are used on US National Parks and Federal properties. Spark arresters may be required by law where you live, but I'm not aware of any actual regulations except the US National Parks rule.

If you buy and install the spark arrester, it uses standard hex/Phillips self-tapping screws, nothing fancy to install or remove, and should be inspected and cleaned every 100 hours:

sparkarrester_zpsa838f184.jpg


For most Honda mowers, it's part number 06180-Z0J-000, $38.68 list price; double-check with your dealer and make sure you get the correct one.

sparkarresterpartz_zps2dbd2192.jpg


Finally, all Honda generators do include spark arresters as standard equipment. This is because Honda recognizes that many generator customers will use them to power an RV or when camping, staying in a cabin, etc. and that often happens at a US National Park.


#10

djdicetn

djdicetn

Honda lawn mowers do NOT come with a spark arrester. A spark arrester is an optional kit you can order from any Honda dealer.

Spark arresters are required on many types of outdoor power equipment (including mowers, generators, etc.) that are used on US National Parks and Federal properties. Spark arresters may be required by law where you live, but I'm not aware of any actual regulations except the US National Parks rule.

If you buy and install the spark arrester, it uses standard hex/Phillips self-tapping screws, nothing fancy to install or remove, and should be inspected and cleaned every 100 hours:

sparkarrester_zpsa838f184.jpg


For most Honda mowers, it's part number 06180-Z0J-000, $38.68 list price; double-check with your dealer and make sure you get the correct one.

sparkarresterpartz_zps2dbd2192.jpg


Finally, all Honda generators do include spark arresters as standard equipment. This is because Honda recognizes that many generator customers will use them to power an RV or when camping, staying in a cabin, etc. and that often happens at a US National Park.
Robert,

I hope the OP doesn't mind me hijacking this thread....but I've got a question about Honda generators. I have a travel trailer with a 30amp service(A/C-heat pump, refrigerator, microwave, etc. and usually camp with my DirecTV HD dish and 32" HDTV). I have been considering getting a portable generator for 'primitive camping" and don't really know how to determine buying the right one. There are a LOT of brands now, but I tend to lean towards the Honda brand because they've been making them longer and the Honda small engines are so dependable & long lasting. Can you give me some advice as to which Honda Generator would meet my needs or how to determine the load of my RV(assuming everything is running at the same time). Also, sometimes when we are camping and are connected to a 30amp service at a campsite we tend to blow the breaker at the campsite receptacle and I have to plug the RV into a 30amp female-to-50amp male converter and use the 50amp service to keep the electricity on all the time. Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated!!!


#11

robert@honda

robert@honda

I have been considering getting a portable generator for 'primitive camping" and don't really know how to determine buying the right one.

Honda has a line-up of portable generators that are very popular with the RV community. They are called the EU-series, and the most popular configuration is a pair of EU2000i generators connected together. This combination provides a comfortable 4,000 watts of power, more than enough to run a single rooftop A/C system as well as most other devices and appliances on your RV. On cool days, when you won't run the A/C, you need only fire up a single generator for 2,000 watts of power. Having the pair is very handy, since they only weigh 49 lbs. each. Easy to move in and out of a compartment. That's a huge advantage over a single 4,000 watt unit, which would likely weigh 150 lbs. or more.

Probably the nicest thing about the Honda EU models is how quiet they run. Even wide-open, you can stand next to one and have a normal conversation with another person. No louder than the dishwasher in your kitchen. When running with the Eco-Throttle on (slower engine speed), you can hardly hear them. An EU2000i holds about 1 gallon of regular unleaded and can run 4-8 hours depending on the load. The EU2000i comes in a number of "flavors" and I'd suggest getting the base model EU2000i, and the Companion EU2000i. Add the Parallel Connection Kit, and you're good to go. The kit lets you connect the two units together, as well as hook up your RV to the large 30A receptacle on the Companion unit. Pull the cords on both generators, and bingo, you've got a full 33.33 amps of current out of the one receptacle. Couldn't be easier.

eu2parallel_zps2162423f.jpg


Links:

EU2000i User Group on Yahoo: EU2000i User Group on Yahoo
RV, an excellent resource on all thing RV, and tons of thread about generators and Hondas: [url]www.rv.net Technical Topics[/URL]
Honda EU-Series Models/Brand Page: Honda Recreational Generators
Honda Generators Full-Line Brochure (.PDF file): Honda Generators Brochure PDF


#12

djdicetn

djdicetn

Honda has a line-up of portable generators that are very popular with the RV community. They are called the EU-series, and the most popular configuration is a pair of EU2000i generators connected together. This combination provides a comfortable 4,000 watts of power, more than enough to run a single rooftop A/C system as well as most other devices and appliances on your RV. On cool days, when you won't run the A/C, you need only fire up a single generator for 2,000 watts of power. Having the pair is very handy, since they only weigh 49 lbs. each. Easy to move in and out of a compartment. That's a huge advantage over a single 4,000 watt unit, which would likely weigh 150 lbs. or more.

Probably the nicest thing about the Honda EU models is how quiet they run. Even wide-open, you can stand next to one and have a normal conversation with another person. No louder than the dishwasher in your kitchen. When running with the Eco-Throttle on (slower engine speed), you can hardly hear them. An EU2000i holds about 1 gallon of regular unleaded and can run 4-8 hours depending on the load. The EU2000i comes in a number of "flavors" and I'd suggest getting the base model EU2000i, and the Companion EU2000i. Add the Parallel Connection Kit, and you're good to go. The kit lets you connect the two units together, as well as hook up your RV to the large 30A receptacle on the Companion unit. Pull the cords on both generators, and bingo, you've got a full 33.33 amps of current out of the one receptacle. Couldn't be easier.

eu2parallel_zps2162423f.jpg


Links:

EU2000i User Group on Yahoo: EU2000i User Group on Yahoo
RV, an excellent resource on all thing RV, and tons of thread about generators and Hondas: [url]www.rv.net Technical Topics[/URL]
Honda EU-Series Models/Brand Page: Honda Recreational Generators
Honda Generators Full-Line Brochure (.PDF file): Honda Generators Brochure PDF
Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me and provide the links. That's just what I needed to know!!! I now release this thread back to it's original "Spark Arrestor?" topic:0)


#13

HarryHarley

HarryHarley

Absolutely spot on advice from Robert!!!!! Those generators are incredible (but a little pricy).
Plus I learned something new..... you can run them together.... that's cool!


#14

djdicetn

djdicetn

Absolutely spot on advice from Robert!!!!! Those generators are incredible (but a little pricy).
Plus I learned something new..... you can run them together.... that's cool!

I hear ya....I'll simply have to convince the Financial Advisor(aka the wife) that just like the ZTR purchase, the generators are a wise "post-retirement investment":0)


#15

D

Duckman

Robert from Honda is one cool dude...period.

I have a Honda 2000i and listening to him over on the Yahoo group has brought a ton of sanity and real wisdom in place of massive over-thought and horse beating.

I have never said it...but thanks Robert@honda

OUT!

Mike


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