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Snapper s50xt pro or the Kubota s121 Kommander
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wingstrut
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wingstrut
Folks I am 68 years old and mowing 3/4 acre walking behind a 30 inch Sarlo high wheel, needless to say, I'm tired of this.
I mow my St Augustine grass twice a week, because you have to, it grows five inches every week and it is thick.
I cut my grass at 4 inches, now for the money question.
I have extensively researched ZTR's and due to dealer distances and service, I have chosen two.
Could you experienced folks give me your ideas on which mower, the mowers seem to have similar equipment such as the drives and deck size.
The Snapper I can opt for the Kawasaki engine vs the Kohler in the Kubota. Also the Snapper is rated as a commercial mower and the Kubota is not, but they look similar, the cost is the same. The deck on the Kubota seems wide open underneath, I don't see how it could produce a vacuum to stand the grass up, whereas the Snapper has baffles close to the blades to create a vacuum, I need the grass to be dispersed over a wide area and chopped fine so as not to create brown spots.
I'm not asking for much am I ....Ha!Ha!
I'm sure either one will do just fine but I would like a little encouragement from the experts.
Please don't recommend another brand as there are no dealers near by that I would deal with.
I know the Kommander is a new mower and there may not be any long time usage owners, but still would appreciate any comment.
I'm tired of walking behind that mower in 98 degree 100 percent humidity days.
Thank You for your time..............Ron
I mow my St Augustine grass twice a week, because you have to, it grows five inches every week and it is thick.
I cut my grass at 4 inches, now for the money question.
I have extensively researched ZTR's and due to dealer distances and service, I have chosen two.
Could you experienced folks give me your ideas on which mower, the mowers seem to have similar equipment such as the drives and deck size.
The Snapper I can opt for the Kawasaki engine vs the Kohler in the Kubota. Also the Snapper is rated as a commercial mower and the Kubota is not, but they look similar, the cost is the same. The deck on the Kubota seems wide open underneath, I don't see how it could produce a vacuum to stand the grass up, whereas the Snapper has baffles close to the blades to create a vacuum, I need the grass to be dispersed over a wide area and chopped fine so as not to create brown spots.
I'm not asking for much am I ....Ha!Ha!
I'm sure either one will do just fine but I would like a little encouragement from the experts.
Please don't recommend another brand as there are no dealers near by that I would deal with.
I know the Kommander is a new mower and there may not be any long time usage owners, but still would appreciate any comment.
I'm tired of walking behind that mower in 98 degree 100 percent humidity days.
Thank You for your time..............Ron
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Shughes717
I don't think I qualify as an expert, but I own a snapper pro s150xt. It has the same icd deck as the s50xt. Get a great cut. I also have the fx600v Kawi engine (same offered on the s50xt). Great engine with plenty of power for a 48" deck. It is considered a heavy duty commercial engine. The main difference in my mower and the s50xt is the hydros. Mine has the heavy duty commercial zt5400 hydros. The s50xt has zt3100. I wanted larger hydros because I mow some hills, but the zt3100 should be more than capable of handling 3/4 acre in no time unless your lawn is mostly hills. The kubota is a fine mower as well, but the fx Kawi is a better engine option (rated for 1000 hours). I hope that helps.
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Shughes717
Folks I am 68 years old and mowing 3/4 acre walking behind a 30 inch Sarlo high wheel, needless to say, I'm tired of this.
I mow my St Augustine grass twice a week, because you have to, it grows five inches every week and it is thick.
I cut my grass at 4 inches, now for the money question.
I have extensively researched ZTR's and due to dealer distances and service, I have chosen two.
Could you experienced folks give me your ideas on which mower, the mowers seem to have similar equipment such as the drives and deck size.
The Snapper I can opt for the Kawasaki engine vs the Kohler in the Kubota. Also the Snapper is rated as a commercial mower and the Kubota is not, but they look similar, the cost is the same. The deck on the Kubota seems wide open underneath, I don't see how it could produce a vacuum to stand the grass up, whereas the Snapper has baffles close to the blades to create a vacuum, I need the grass to be dispersed over a wide area and chopped fine so as not to create brown spots.
I'm not asking for much am I ....Ha!Ha!
I'm sure either one will do just fine but I would like a little encouragement from the experts.
Please don't recommend another brand as there are no dealers near by that I would deal with.
I know the Kommander is a new mower and there may not be any long time usage owners, but still would appreciate any comment.
I'm tired of walking behind that mower in 98 degree 100 percent humidity days.
Thank You for your time..............Ron
I don't think I qualify as an expert, but I own a snapper pro s150xt. It has the same icd deck as the s50xt. Get a great cut. I also have the fx600v Kawi engine (same offered on the s50xt). Great engine with plenty of power for a 48" deck. It is considered a heavy duty commercial engine. The main difference in my mower and the s50xt is the hydros. Mine has the heavy duty commercial zt5400 hydros. The s50xt has zt3100. I wanted larger hydros because I mow some hills, but the zt3100 should be more than capable of handling 3/4 acre in no time unless your lawn is mostly hills. The kubota is a fine mower as well, but the fx Kawi is a better engine option (rated for 1000 hours). I hope that helps.
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wingstrut
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Thank you Shughes717, The part about the heavier hydros for the hills, what is the difference, do they produce less power to move the mower up the hill.
I thought they were just had heavier duty components in them.
I do have a section that is a ditch that I think I will have to mow down into and back up out, it is a good 15 degree incline about 150 feet long.
I know these ZTR's will not hold on an incline.
Do you think this mower with the 3100 hydros will not be capable of this?
I'm not sure of how to insert a photo in this thread or I would supply a picture of what I am talking about, the saying, a picture is worth a thousand words.
I thought they were just had heavier duty components in them.
I do have a section that is a ditch that I think I will have to mow down into and back up out, it is a good 15 degree incline about 150 feet long.
I know these ZTR's will not hold on an incline.
Do you think this mower with the 3100 hydros will not be capable of this?
I'm not sure of how to insert a photo in this thread or I would supply a picture of what I am talking about, the saying, a picture is worth a thousand words.
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Shughes717
If you are mowing up and down I am sure it's fine. Zt 3100 hydros are in the middle. I am able to mow across hills with mine. Hydro gear's smallest hydros are the ezt. Then you have the zt2800, the zt 3100, the zt3400, and the zt5400. My mower is heavier as well which helps it on hills as well. The zt 5400 hydros will allow the mower to go faster as well, and it has more torque than the other hydros.
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Thank you Shughes717, The part about the heavier hydros for the hills, what is the difference, do they produce less power to move the mower up the hill.
I thought they were just had heavier duty components in them.
I do have a section that is a ditch that I think I will have to mow down into and back up out, it is a good 15 degree incline about 150 feet long.
I know these ZTR's will not hold on an incline.
Do you think this mower with the 3100 hydros will not be capable of this?
I'm not sure of how to insert a photo in this thread or I would supply a picture of what I am talking about, the saying, a picture is worth a thousand words.
If you are mowing up and down I am sure it's fine. Zt 3100 hydros are in the middle. I am able to mow across hills with mine. Hydro gear's smallest hydros are the ezt. Then you have the zt2800, the zt 3100, the zt3400, and the zt5400. My mower is heavier as well which helps it on hills as well. The zt 5400 hydros will allow the mower to go faster as well, and it has more torque than the other hydros.
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I know from experience the ezt hydros and the zt2800 are not good on hills. The zt3400 and the zt5400 are both considered full commercial. The zt 3100 is semi commercial.
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Thank you again Shughes, that was a lot of good information, maybe I would be better off with a cheap lawn tractor and replace it every three or four years.
I will try and get a photo of my problem spot so you can get an idea of what I have.
I'm sure you have a lot steeper hills in Tennessee than my little ditch in Florida......Ha!Ha!..............Ron
I will try and get a photo of my problem spot so you can get an idea of what I have.
I'm sure you have a lot steeper hills in Tennessee than my little ditch in Florida......Ha!Ha!..............Ron
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Shughes717
I am sure the s50xt or the kubota Kommander would handle what ever you want to mow. I am in west tennessee, so the hills here are nothing like the ones on the east end of my state. See if your dealer will let you demo the mowers so you can be sure they will suit your needs.
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Thank you again Shughes, that was a lot of good information, maybe I would be better off with a cheap lawn tractor and replace it every three or four years.
I will try and get a photo of my problem spot so you can get an idea of what I have.
I'm sure you have a lot steeper hills in Tennessee than my little ditch in Florida......Ha!Ha!..............Ron
I am sure the s50xt or the kubota Kommander would handle what ever you want to mow. I am in west tennessee, so the hills here are nothing like the ones on the east end of my state. See if your dealer will let you demo the mowers so you can be sure they will suit your needs.
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Here is the picture of my problem spot, that I have trouble mowing, I don't know if the ZTR mower will have trouble either because of the incline.
I mowed this grass two days ago, except for the bottom of the ditch, (it has a little water in it right now), that is how fast this stuff grows, you can also see the thatch my mower leaves, (the white areas) doesn't cut very well, it leaves grass blades 4 to 5 inches long, that is another reason I want a ZTR, they seem to chop up the grass into fine pieces so as not to leave windrows of grass.
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I mowed this grass two days ago, except for the bottom of the ditch, (it has a little water in it right now), that is how fast this stuff grows, you can also see the thatch my mower leaves, (the white areas) doesn't cut very well, it leaves grass blades 4 to 5 inches long, that is another reason I want a ZTR, they seem to chop up the grass into fine pieces so as not to leave windrows of grass.
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Shughes717
A ztr would have no trouble with that incline. You will be fine with either mower you choose. Commercial mowers have a higher blade tip speed. That's why they chop the grass up better. They also usually come with high lift blades. The blade tip speed of the snapper pro is a little over 18000 feet per minute. You will love the cut that either of the mowers leave.
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Shughes717
Here is the picture of my problem spot, that I have trouble mowing, I don't know if the ZTR mower will have trouble either because of the incline.
I mowed this grass two days ago, except for the bottom of the ditch, (it has a little water in it right now), that is how fast this stuff grows, you can also see the thatch my mower leaves, (the white areas) doesn't cut very well, it leaves grass blades 4 to 5 inches long, that is another reason I want a ZTR, they seem to chop up the grass into fine pieces so as not to leave windrows of grass.
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A ztr would have no trouble with that incline. You will be fine with either mower you choose. Commercial mowers have a higher blade tip speed. That's why they chop the grass up better. They also usually come with high lift blades. The blade tip speed of the snapper pro is a little over 18000 feet per minute. You will love the cut that either of the mowers leave.
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Shughes, Thank you very much for your support, it looks like my choice will depend on the dealer, the mowers seem pretty much the same, about the only major difference is the Kubota has somewhat narrow front tires, that's about it, everything is made in the US the best I can tell.
I just received this info, so I thought I would put it here just for your information.
I sent a request to Briggs and Stratton about their engines and they sent me back a letter stating that all their engines are made in the US except the smaller single cyl stuff used on push type mowers, pressure washers and the like.
Kohler said something similar..............Basically their multi cyl. engines are made in the US.............That came from the manufacturer not the dealer or someone who thinks they know where they are made.
I've seen this topic come up many times that is why I wrote these companies.............Ron
I'm really looking forward to getting my ZTM, I think I can actually mow my yard three times a week and still be able to cut a lot of grass. Ha!Ha!
I really fret over stuff like this and you have helped me considerably, thanks again!
I just received this info, so I thought I would put it here just for your information.
I sent a request to Briggs and Stratton about their engines and they sent me back a letter stating that all their engines are made in the US except the smaller single cyl stuff used on push type mowers, pressure washers and the like.
Kohler said something similar..............Basically their multi cyl. engines are made in the US.............That came from the manufacturer not the dealer or someone who thinks they know where they are made.
I've seen this topic come up many times that is why I wrote these companies.............Ron
I'm really looking forward to getting my ZTM, I think I can actually mow my yard three times a week and still be able to cut a lot of grass. Ha!Ha!
I really fret over stuff like this and you have helped me considerably, thanks again!
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Shughes717
No problem, that's what this site is for. I'm glad I could help. Btw, technically kawasaki engines, and the vanguard ( made by daihatsu) are both Japanese made engines. They may have factories in the U.S. But either way they are both top of the line engines.
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Shughes717
Shughes, Thank you very much for your support, it looks like my choice will depend on the dealer, the mowers seem pretty much the same, about the only major difference is the Kubota has somewhat narrow front tires, that's about it, everything is made in the US the best I can tell.
I just received this info, so I thought I would put it here just for your information.
I sent a request to Briggs and Stratton about their engines and they sent me back a letter stating that all their engines are made in the US except the smaller single cyl stuff used on push type mowers, pressure washers and the like.
Kohler said something similar..............Basically their multi cyl. engines are made in the US.............That came from the manufacturer not the dealer or someone who thinks they know where they are made.
I've seen this topic come up many times that is why I wrote these companies.............Ron
I'm really looking forward to getting my ZTM, I think I can actually mow my yard three times a week and still be able to cut a lot of grass. Ha!Ha!
I really fret over stuff like this and you have helped me considerably, thanks again!
No problem, that's what this site is for. I'm glad I could help. Btw, technically kawasaki engines, and the vanguard ( made by daihatsu) are both Japanese made engines. They may have factories in the U.S. But either way they are both top of the line engines.
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Shughes717
If you don't mind, make sure you let me know what you went with and post a picture once you have made your decision.
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Shughes717
Anymore the Japanese engines are pretty good, it's the Chinese junk we don't want.
If you don't mind, make sure you let me know what you went with and post a picture once you have made your decision.
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wingstrut
The Snapper dealer will trade without question.......I will let you know either way.............Ron
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wingstrut
I certainly will, it looks like I may go with the Snapper because, I'm using a trade in and the Kubota dealer wants to make sure he has my trade in sold before he deals with me.If you don't mind, make sure you let me know what you went with and post a picture once you have made your decision.
The Snapper dealer will trade without question.......I will let you know either way.............Ron
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Shughes717
The snapper pro is a quality machine. I have no complaints with mine.
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Shughes717
I certainly will, it looks like I may go with the Snapper because, I'm using a trade in and the Kubota dealer wants to make sure he has my trade in sold before he deals with me.
The Snapper dealer will trade without question.......I will let you know either way.............Ron
The snapper pro is a quality machine. I have no complaints with mine.
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wingstrut
Well, I contacted the Kubota dealer to see if he would sell me a mower without my trade in but he went up on the price about 400.00
I ordered a Snapper S50XT pro, should be in next week, will send pictures, if I can get off of it long enough to take some.
Thanks again for the help and support!.............Ron
PS: I'm like a kid with a new toy...................can't wait!
I ordered a Snapper S50XT pro, should be in next week, will send pictures, if I can get off of it long enough to take some.
Thanks again for the help and support!.............Ron
PS: I'm like a kid with a new toy...................can't wait!
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Shughes717
You made a fine choice. I would have gone with the snapper pro over the kubota myself. The kubota is a good mower as well, but you get a better engine with the snapper pro. I was too busy this week to get to my lawn and went 10 days between mowing. Had 95 degree temps with a heavy rain. The grass was higher than it's been since I purchased my place. Took me 3.5 hours to mow, but my snapper pro handled that high grass with no problems and left a great cut. There are places that the clippings are thick on, but that's to be expected when you don't mow regularly. I couldn't have mowed grass that high with my old mower. The only problem you should have with that mower is that you will finish mowing too fast.:biggrin:
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Well, I contacted the Kubota dealer to see if he would sell me a mower without my trade in but he went up on the price about 400.00
I ordered a Snapper S50XT pro, should be in next week, will send pictures, if I can get off of it long enough to take some.
Thanks again for the help and support!.............Ron
PS: I'm like a kid with a new toy...................can't wait!
You made a fine choice. I would have gone with the snapper pro over the kubota myself. The kubota is a good mower as well, but you get a better engine with the snapper pro. I was too busy this week to get to my lawn and went 10 days between mowing. Had 95 degree temps with a heavy rain. The grass was higher than it's been since I purchased my place. Took me 3.5 hours to mow, but my snapper pro handled that high grass with no problems and left a great cut. There are places that the clippings are thick on, but that's to be expected when you don't mow regularly. I couldn't have mowed grass that high with my old mower. The only problem you should have with that mower is that you will finish mowing too fast.:biggrin:
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Thanks for the support, I was leaning toward the Snapper at the end even if Kubota gave me a good deal.
The Snapper has an FX engine, as you know is their top of the line, (I'm a motor head anyway) the tires are nice and wide at 10 inches and a decent diameter at 20 inches, wider is always better.
The only drawback if you want to call it that, is the seat is not sprung, which won't make a difference on my small yard.
As far as getting done too quickly, I thought of that, all I have to do is mow at 4.5 inches then mow again at 4 inches that way I will have two acres to mow.....Ha!Ha!
The lady at the mower shop said, I will be asking the neighbors if I could mow their lawns............This is my first Zero Turn, and probably my last, should last many years the way I will use it.
The Snapper has an FX engine, as you know is their top of the line, (I'm a motor head anyway) the tires are nice and wide at 10 inches and a decent diameter at 20 inches, wider is always better.
The only drawback if you want to call it that, is the seat is not sprung, which won't make a difference on my small yard.
As far as getting done too quickly, I thought of that, all I have to do is mow at 4.5 inches then mow again at 4 inches that way I will have two acres to mow.....Ha!Ha!
The lady at the mower shop said, I will be asking the neighbors if I could mow their lawns............This is my first Zero Turn, and probably my last, should last many years the way I will use it.
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Shughes717
It should last you a long time. It is a semi commercial mower, so it is built much heavier than residential models. The fx engine is great. My s150xt is a 2012 model, so it has the same fx600v engine. If I mow weekly the engine has enough power for me to mow at full speed (10 mph) even going up hill. If the grass is tall like it was this week
I can still mow between 6 and 7 mph. That's faster than My old tractor would go at full speed. Mowing with a zero turn is a blast. I never liked mowing before I purchased mine. Now I can't wait for the grass to grow. Your dealer is right, you may be asking neighbors if you can mow their lawns. Don't forget to post pictures.
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Thanks for the support, I was leaning toward the Snapper at the end even if Kubota gave me a good deal.
The Snapper has an FX engine, as you know is their top of the line, (I'm a motor head anyway) the tires are nice and wide at 10 inches and a decent diameter at 20 inches, wider is always better.
The only drawback if you want to call it that, is the seat is not sprung, which won't make a difference on my small yard.
As far as getting done too quickly, I thought of that, all I have to do is mow at 4.5 inches then mow again at 4 inches that way I will have two acres to mow.....Ha!Ha!
The lady at the mower shop said, I will be asking the neighbors if I could mow their lawns............This is my first Zero Turn, and probably my last, should last many years the way I will use it.
It should last you a long time. It is a semi commercial mower, so it is built much heavier than residential models. The fx engine is great. My s150xt is a 2012 model, so it has the same fx600v engine. If I mow weekly the engine has enough power for me to mow at full speed (10 mph) even going up hill. If the grass is tall like it was this week
I can still mow between 6 and 7 mph. That's faster than My old tractor would go at full speed. Mowing with a zero turn is a blast. I never liked mowing before I purchased mine. Now I can't wait for the grass to grow. Your dealer is right, you may be asking neighbors if you can mow their lawns. Don't forget to post pictures.
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I will not forget to post the pictures, I have a high speed camera, my wife can take pictures of me rushing by..............Ha!Ha!
I got lights on it too, you know, for mowing at night when the urge strikes you, and also for going down to the mail box, I got a hitch to go on the back so I can tow a small de-thatcher.
Like I said before, like a kid with a new toy.................us guys never grow up, if you don't get excited about this stuff, then your life is over.
I got lights on it too, you know, for mowing at night when the urge strikes you, and also for going down to the mail box, I got a hitch to go on the back so I can tow a small de-thatcher.
Like I said before, like a kid with a new toy.................us guys never grow up, if you don't get excited about this stuff, then your life is over.
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Shughes717
While you are at it you could get the suspension insert for the seat lol. Will have a smooth ride on your acre.
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I will not forget to post the pictures, I have a high speed camera, my wife can take pictures of me rushing by..............Ha!Ha!
I got lights on it too, you know, for mowing at night when the urge strikes you, and also for going down to the mail box, I got a hitch to go on the back so I can tow a small de-thatcher.
Like I said before, like a kid with a new toy.................us guys never grow up, if you don't get excited about this stuff, then your life is over.
While you are at it you could get the suspension insert for the seat lol. Will have a smooth ride on your acre.
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Shughes, my new Snapper will be here Monday the 8th, I should be mowing then, after the pictures of course.
It will be messy at first because of the height of the lawn, I'm expecting a lot of clippings that may smother the lawn, I need a de-thatcher.
After that I can maintain it properly.
It will be messy at first because of the height of the lawn, I'm expecting a lot of clippings that may smother the lawn, I need a de-thatcher.
After that I can maintain it properly.
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Shughes717
I bet you can't wait. It is a shame you are getting your new mower at the end of the season. At least you have something to look forward to mowing next season. Thanks for keeping me posted. Let me know what you think of your new mower after using it.
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Shughes, my new Snapper will be here Monday the 8th, I should be mowing then, after the pictures of course.
It will be messy at first because of the height of the lawn, I'm expecting a lot of clippings that may smother the lawn, I need a de-thatcher.
After that I can maintain it properly.
I bet you can't wait. It is a shame you are getting your new mower at the end of the season. At least you have something to look forward to mowing next season. Thanks for keeping me posted. Let me know what you think of your new mower after using it.
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Thank you for helping me with my decision, I have owned snapper mowers before and found that they were excellent mowers, so I'm pretty sure this will be no different.
I had a John Deere garden tractor that I mowed with for a number of years and it had a Kawasaki FX engine in it, that engine was flawless.
I have a troy-bilt Horse tiller that I have had for thirty years with a Briggs and Stratton engine, and I have to say there is nothing wrong with that engine either, but after having the Kawasaki, I really like that engine.
We received 7 inches of rain today and the weatherman says expect the same through Tuesday.
I'm looking for someone with a sickle mower because my grass is that high..........Ha!Ha!
As far as the end of the season, I should be mowing well into November, our days are still in the 90's with a lot of rain.
My problem is getting the grass dry enough to mow before the early afternoon rains come.
Our morning dew is so heavy it doesn't get dry enough to mow until 1:00pm then the rains usually come in about that time.
Yes, I'm excited, I had my trailer full of mulch that I had to empty, (3 yards) so I could pick up my mower on Monday.
Everything is lined up and ready to go, just waiting for that phone call.
Even if the grass quits growing I can still work on my mower skills with out actually mowing, you know I wouldn't want the cylinders to get any rust on them sitting around waiting for spring.
I had a John Deere garden tractor that I mowed with for a number of years and it had a Kawasaki FX engine in it, that engine was flawless.
I have a troy-bilt Horse tiller that I have had for thirty years with a Briggs and Stratton engine, and I have to say there is nothing wrong with that engine either, but after having the Kawasaki, I really like that engine.
We received 7 inches of rain today and the weatherman says expect the same through Tuesday.
I'm looking for someone with a sickle mower because my grass is that high..........Ha!Ha!
As far as the end of the season, I should be mowing well into November, our days are still in the 90's with a lot of rain.
My problem is getting the grass dry enough to mow before the early afternoon rains come.
Our morning dew is so heavy it doesn't get dry enough to mow until 1:00pm then the rains usually come in about that time.
Yes, I'm excited, I had my trailer full of mulch that I had to empty, (3 yards) so I could pick up my mower on Monday.
Everything is lined up and ready to go, just waiting for that phone call.
Even if the grass quits growing I can still work on my mower skills with out actually mowing, you know I wouldn't want the cylinders to get any rust on them sitting around waiting for spring.
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Shughes717
The great thing about these commercial mowers is that they have the power to cut wet grass. I mowed mine the day after a heavy rain because that was the only day I had free to mow. It was either do it then or wait another week. Told one of my friends I had to go home and mow and he said "you know the grass is too wet don't you?". I told him it wasn't too wet for my mower. He couldn't believe it when he came by and I had already mowed. He is now shopping for a zero turn. Lol
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Thank you for helping me with my decision, I have owned snapper mowers before and found that they were excellent mowers, so I'm pretty sure this will be no different.
I had a John Deere garden tractor that I mowed with for a number of years and it had a Kawasaki FX engine in it, that engine was flawless.
I have a troy-bilt Horse tiller that I have had for thirty years with a Briggs and Stratton engine, and I have to say there is nothing wrong with that engine either, but after having the Kawasaki, I really like that engine.
We received 7 inches of rain today and the weatherman says expect the same through Tuesday.
I'm looking for someone with a sickle mower because my grass is that high..........Ha!Ha!
As far as the end of the season, I should be mowing well into November, our days are still in the 90's with a lot of rain.
My problem is getting the grass dry enough to mow before the early afternoon rains come.
Our morning dew is so heavy it doesn't get dry enough to mow until 1:00pm then the rains usually come in about that time.
Yes, I'm excited, I had my trailer full of mulch that I had to empty, (3 yards) so I could pick up my mower on Monday.
Everything is lined up and ready to go, just waiting for that phone call.
Even if the grass quits growing I can still work on my mower skills with out actually mowing, you know I wouldn't want the cylinders to get any rust on them sitting around waiting for spring.
The great thing about these commercial mowers is that they have the power to cut wet grass. I mowed mine the day after a heavy rain because that was the only day I had free to mow. It was either do it then or wait another week. Told one of my friends I had to go home and mow and he said "you know the grass is too wet don't you?". I told him it wasn't too wet for my mower. He couldn't believe it when he came by and I had already mowed. He is now shopping for a zero turn. Lol
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Won't the mower leave piles of wet grass, or will it chop it up and distribute it as if it was dry?
The reason I have gone to the commercial is the higher blade speed so that it will chop the grass fine and not need a mulch kit on it.
My grass requires mulching or collecting or it will die from being smothered...........weird stuff!
But it's pretty!
My mower came in today like they promised but it was 4:30 pm and we had 2.5 inches of rain today.
I will pick it up tomorrow and hopefully get an early start on the grass, after I figure out how to operate it, I'll do the back yard first, no one can see that, by that time maybe I will be proficient enough to mow in public.............Ha!Ha!
The water in my back yard is about 3/4 of an inch deep, should go down by tomorrow.
We haven't had this much rain in eight years............Will update tomorrow if I can get off the mower.
The reason I have gone to the commercial is the higher blade speed so that it will chop the grass fine and not need a mulch kit on it.
My grass requires mulching or collecting or it will die from being smothered...........weird stuff!
But it's pretty!
My mower came in today like they promised but it was 4:30 pm and we had 2.5 inches of rain today.
I will pick it up tomorrow and hopefully get an early start on the grass, after I figure out how to operate it, I'll do the back yard first, no one can see that, by that time maybe I will be proficient enough to mow in public.............Ha!Ha!
The water in my back yard is about 3/4 of an inch deep, should go down by tomorrow.
We haven't had this much rain in eight years............Will update tomorrow if I can get off the mower.
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You will have heavy clippings if the grass is very tall. You may have to mow with the deck all the way up, and mow it again at a lower setting to reduce the amount of clippings. If you mow your lawn regularly you will see little to no clippings. Even with high lift blades you are going to have heavy clippings in tall grass.
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Won't the mower leave piles of wet grass, or will it chop it up and distribute it as if it was dry?
The reason I have gone to the commercial is the higher blade speed so that it will chop the grass fine and not need a mulch kit on it.
My grass requires mulching or collecting or it will die from being smothered...........weird stuff!
But it's pretty!
My mower came in today like they promised but it was 4:30 pm and we had 2.5 inches of rain today.
I will pick it up tomorrow and hopefully get an early start on the grass, after I figure out how to operate it, I'll do the back yard first, no one can see that, by that time maybe I will be proficient enough to mow in public.............Ha!Ha!
The water in my back yard is about 3/4 of an inch deep, should go down by tomorrow.
We haven't had this much rain in eight years............Will update tomorrow if I can get off the mower.
You will have heavy clippings if the grass is very tall. You may have to mow with the deck all the way up, and mow it again at a lower setting to reduce the amount of clippings. If you mow your lawn regularly you will see little to no clippings. Even with high lift blades you are going to have heavy clippings in tall grass.
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Well, here are the pictures, Pardon the grass, I couldn't wait to mow.
You are correct, I should have done this years ago, I mowed less than half speed because I was a little confused with the controls, but the hour meter registered .7 tenths of an hour, I was wondering were all the grass went to.
I set the mower at the highest level and my cut grass was about 6 inches, I cut to put the clipping in one row then I came back and made one pass over the clippings and they were all gone, the yard was clean and perfect.
There may be mowers out there that cut and perform better than this one, but not in my book, this is the best mower I have ever had and have no regrets about spending that much on a commercial type mower.
Now I'm outside with a measuring stick waiting for the grass to grow a little so I can mow it again.
That Kawasaki FX 600V ran flawlessly.
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You are correct, I should have done this years ago, I mowed less than half speed because I was a little confused with the controls, but the hour meter registered .7 tenths of an hour, I was wondering were all the grass went to.
I set the mower at the highest level and my cut grass was about 6 inches, I cut to put the clipping in one row then I came back and made one pass over the clippings and they were all gone, the yard was clean and perfect.
There may be mowers out there that cut and perform better than this one, but not in my book, this is the best mower I have ever had and have no regrets about spending that much on a commercial type mower.
Now I'm outside with a measuring stick waiting for the grass to grow a little so I can mow it again.
That Kawasaki FX 600V ran flawlessly.
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Your mower looks great! It even has dual fuel tanks. Mine only has one 5 gallon tank, but I can still mow my lawn without refueling. You wouldn't think the fx600v would have enough power to run a deck that size, but mine will mow at full speed with no problem. Kind of surprising how much power it does have isn't it? I am glad you like your mower. It should serve you well for many years. Don't forget to take the bolts out of the front wheel casters and add grease zerks. They are greasable. I put 3 or 4 shots in mine every 10 hours or so.
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Well, here are the pictures, Pardon the grass, I couldn't wait to mow.
You are correct, I should have done this years ago, I mowed less than half speed because I was a little confused with the controls, but the hour meter registered .7 tenths of an hour, I was wondering were all the grass went to.
I set the mower at the highest level and my cut grass was about 6 inches, I cut to put the clipping in one row then I came back and made one pass over the clippings and they were all gone, the yard was clean and perfect.
There may be mowers out there that cut and perform better than this one, but not in my book, this is the best mower I have ever had and have no regrets about spending that much on a commercial type mower.
Now I'm outside with a measuring stick waiting for the grass to grow a little so I can mow it again.
That Kawasaki FX 600V ran flawlessly.
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Your mower looks great! It even has dual fuel tanks. Mine only has one 5 gallon tank, but I can still mow my lawn without refueling. You wouldn't think the fx600v would have enough power to run a deck that size, but mine will mow at full speed with no problem. Kind of surprising how much power it does have isn't it? I am glad you like your mower. It should serve you well for many years. Don't forget to take the bolts out of the front wheel casters and add grease zerks. They are greasable. I put 3 or 4 shots in mine every 10 hours or so.
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Nice looking unit! :thumbsup: It almost looks as good as my Kubota! :laughing:
Elendil
Well, here are the pictures, Pardon the grass, I couldn't wait to mow.
You are correct, I should have done this years ago, I mowed less than half speed because I was a little confused with the controls, but the hour meter registered .7 tenths of an hour, I was wondering were all the grass went to.
I set the mower at the highest level and my cut grass was about 6 inches, I cut to put the clipping in one row then I came back and made one pass over the clippings and they were all gone, the yard was clean and perfect.
There may be mowers out there that cut and perform better than this one, but not in my book, this is the best mower I have ever had and have no regrets about spending that much on a commercial type mower.
Now I'm outside with a measuring stick waiting for the grass to grow a little so I can mow it again.
That Kawasaki FX 600V ran flawlessly.
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Nice looking unit! :thumbsup: It almost looks as good as my Kubota! :laughing:
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Actually the horsepower rating is accurate, the other manufacturers overrate their engines, If I had gotten a briggs for this same mower it would have been advertised at 24 hp, but probably actual hp would have been around 20.
I mowed my 1 acre and used about 1/4 of one tank of fuel so I should be able to mow my yard realistically 6 times before refueling.
My grass was wet and thick and I cut 6 to 8 inches off of the grass and the engine didn't even slow down, my biggest problem was traction on the wet grass on the inclines.
Thanks for the reminder on the zerks, there are I believe eight other grease fitting on the mower even the front wheels have fittings.
The unit is small compared to the 150 or other ztm but that is what I wanted so I could go under my crape myrtle trees and all my other trees.
It is beyond my expectations, I am very happy with it, I couldn't have designed a better mower for my yard.
Elendil, did you get the Kommander, if so how do you like it?
I wanted the Kubota but the dealer was not real good.
I don't think any of my photos showed my Kubota B-100 in the back ground, I will have to look at them again.
I have a B-100 4 cyl diesel Kubota with front bucket, backhoe and belly mower, couldn't use the mower because the tractor is too heavy for my lawn.
By the way , the Kawasaki engine has the same exact air filter as my Kubota diesel.....neat!!!
I mowed my 1 acre and used about 1/4 of one tank of fuel so I should be able to mow my yard realistically 6 times before refueling.
My grass was wet and thick and I cut 6 to 8 inches off of the grass and the engine didn't even slow down, my biggest problem was traction on the wet grass on the inclines.
Thanks for the reminder on the zerks, there are I believe eight other grease fitting on the mower even the front wheels have fittings.
The unit is small compared to the 150 or other ztm but that is what I wanted so I could go under my crape myrtle trees and all my other trees.
It is beyond my expectations, I am very happy with it, I couldn't have designed a better mower for my yard.
Elendil, did you get the Kommander, if so how do you like it?
I wanted the Kubota but the dealer was not real good.
I don't think any of my photos showed my Kubota B-100 in the back ground, I will have to look at them again.
I have a B-100 4 cyl diesel Kubota with front bucket, backhoe and belly mower, couldn't use the mower because the tractor is too heavy for my lawn.
By the way , the Kawasaki engine has the same exact air filter as my Kubota diesel.....neat!!!
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Yes there are several more zerks on the mower, I grease the casters a little more frequently because I don't want them to freeze. Your mower is actually the same size as mine, except mine has the zt5400 hydros instead of the zt3100. I am very happy with mine. I have a ball mowing my 4.2 acres.
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Actually the horsepower rating is accurate, the other manufacturers overrate their engines, If I had gotten a briggs for this same mower it would have been advertised at 24 hp, but probably actual hp would have been around 20.
I mowed my 1 acre and used about 1/4 of one tank of fuel so I should be able to mow my yard realistically 6 times before refueling.
My grass was wet and thick and I cut 6 to 8 inches off of the grass and the engine didn't even slow down, my biggest problem was traction on the wet grass on the inclines.
Thanks for the reminder on the zerks, there are I believe eight other grease fitting on the mower even the front wheels have fittings.
The unit is small compared to the 150 or other ztm but that is what I wanted so I could go under my crape myrtle trees and all my other trees.
It is beyond my expectations, I am very happy with it, I couldn't have designed a better mower for my yard.
Elendil, did you get the Kommander, if so how do you like it?
I wanted the Kubota but the dealer was not real good.
I don't think any of my photos showed my Kubota B-100 in the back ground, I will have to look at them again.
I have a B-100 4 cyl diesel Kubota with front bucket, backhoe and belly mower, couldn't use the mower because the tractor is too heavy for my lawn.
By the way , the Kawasaki engine has the same exact air filter as my Kubota diesel.....neat!!!
Yes there are several more zerks on the mower, I grease the casters a little more frequently because I don't want them to freeze. Your mower is actually the same size as mine, except mine has the zt5400 hydros instead of the zt3100. I am very happy with mine. I have a ball mowing my 4.2 acres.
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Darn, I wish I had four more acres, if we lived closer I could come over and help you mow yours....Ha!Ha!
When I finished mowing I actually drove the mower around my yard thinking I must have missed some areas......nope!
Now I'm hoping the grass will continue to grow like it has been so I can mow in a couple of days.
I'm actually having fun with this, WOW!
When I finished mowing I actually drove the mower around my yard thinking I must have missed some areas......nope!
Now I'm hoping the grass will continue to grow like it has been so I can mow in a couple of days.
I'm actually having fun with this, WOW!
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Elendil, I found your thread on your mower, nice mower, you are right is does look almost as nice as my Snapper:laughing:
It doesn't matter guys, they are all nice mowers and I'm glad we have them.
It doesn't matter guys, they are all nice mowers and I'm glad we have them.
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Lol, there is a church across the road from me that has a 6 acre lot. We could really have a blast mowing both sides of the road.:smile:
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Shughes717
Darn, I wish I had four more acres, if we lived closer I could come over and help you mow yours....Ha!Ha!
When I finished mowing I actually drove the mower around my yard thinking I must have missed some areas......nope!
Now I'm hoping the grass will continue to grow like it has been so I can mow in a couple of days.
I'm actually having fun with this, WOW!
Lol, there is a church across the road from me that has a 6 acre lot. We could really have a blast mowing both sides of the road.:smile:
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Elendil
Thanks. I was close to getting the Kommander, but with the rebate and 0% I couldn't pass on the commercial unit. Have fun with your mower! We just got 1/2in of rain last night with another couple of inches predicted for tomorrow. Grass will be nice and thick by the weekend. Woohoo!
Elendil
Elendil, I found your thread on your mower, nice mower, you are right is does look almost as nice as my Snapper:laughing:
It doesn't matter guys, they are all nice mowers and I'm glad we have them.
Thanks. I was close to getting the Kommander, but with the rebate and 0% I couldn't pass on the commercial unit. Have fun with your mower! We just got 1/2in of rain last night with another couple of inches predicted for tomorrow. Grass will be nice and thick by the weekend. Woohoo!
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Thanks for the offer, but the drive to Tennessee would be a little difficult.LoL
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Lol, there is a church across the road from me that has a 6 acre lot. We could really have a blast mowing both sides of the road.:smile:
Thanks for the offer, but the drive to Tennessee would be a little difficult.LoL
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I think you did the right thing, that is a much nicer unit than the Kommander.
I almost went to the S150XT Snapper for close to the same price but the physical size of the mower wouldn't work around my yard because of the obstacles.
Nice mower, should last you many years..................Ron
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Thanks. I was close to getting the Kommander, but with the rebate and 0% I couldn't pass on the commercial unit. Have fun with your mower! We just got 1/2in of rain last night with another couple of inches predicted for tomorrow. Grass will be nice and this by the weekend. Woohoo!
I think you did the right thing, that is a much nicer unit than the Kommander.
I almost went to the S150XT Snapper for close to the same price but the physical size of the mower wouldn't work around my yard because of the obstacles.
Nice mower, should last you many years..................Ron
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Yes it would. I made the trip to Florida a few times. Once as a kid, again on my honeymoon, and a third time on vacation with my wife and daughters. Got a new born son now, so I imagine I will be making at least one more Florida trip again in a couple of years. :wink:
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Thanks for the offer, but the drive to Tennessee would be a little difficult.LoL
Yes it would. I made the trip to Florida a few times. Once as a kid, again on my honeymoon, and a third time on vacation with my wife and daughters. Got a new born son now, so I imagine I will be making at least one more Florida trip again in a couple of years. :wink:
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Congratulations on the Baby, I'm a great grandfather, only in age, I'm still a kid inside.
If you were referring to Disney world or Sea World on your trip, make sure he is old enough to enjoy and remember it, a lot of folks bring their two or three year olds and spend a lot of money and the child doesn't remember anything.
Don't let me change anything, just my opinion. Well the sun is shining, I'm going out to find some grass that I might have missed...........LoL
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Yes it would. I made the trip to Florida a few times. Once as a kid, again on my honeymoon, and a third time on vacation with my wife and daughters. Got a new born son now, so I imagine I will be making at least one more Florida trip again in a couple of years. :wink:
Congratulations on the Baby, I'm a great grandfather, only in age, I'm still a kid inside.
If you were referring to Disney world or Sea World on your trip, make sure he is old enough to enjoy and remember it, a lot of folks bring their two or three year olds and spend a lot of money and the child doesn't remember anything.
Don't let me change anything, just my opinion. Well the sun is shining, I'm going out to find some grass that I might have missed...........LoL
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I hear you lol. My oldest daughter was 9 and my youngest daughter was actually 2 when we went last. I didn't want to wait till my youngest was much older because my oldest daughter had been asking for years to go. It gives the wife and me an excuse to be kids again ourselves. When my younger daughter is 6 we will probably go back. My son will only be about 2, but that just gives us another reason to go 4 or 5 years later.:wink: never too old to enjoy Disney world.
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Congratulations on the Baby, I'm a great grandfather, only in age, I'm still a kid inside.
If you were referring to Disney world or Sea World on your trip, make sure he is old enough to enjoy and remember it, a lot of folks bring their two or three year olds and spend a lot of money and the child doesn't remember anything.
Don't let me change anything, just my opinion. Well the sun is shining, I'm going out to find some grass that I might have missed...........LoL
I hear you lol. My oldest daughter was 9 and my youngest daughter was actually 2 when we went last. I didn't want to wait till my youngest was much older because my oldest daughter had been asking for years to go. It gives the wife and me an excuse to be kids again ourselves. When my younger daughter is 6 we will probably go back. My son will only be about 2, but that just gives us another reason to go 4 or 5 years later.:wink: never too old to enjoy Disney world.
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I know what you mean, I'm a big Epcot fan myself, but we haven't been in years because of the cost, they used to have Florida resident discounts, but they forgot the real reason Disney had these places built, the CEO of Disney takes home almost 50 million a year salary, now there is something wrong with that.
Actually now the Florida resident pays more than an out of state traveler, it's like they don't need us anymore.
When we used to get a discount, we went at least four times a year, sorry, I have gotten cranky in my old age.
Enough of that, I found some grass that I couldn't mow yesterday because it was underwater..................YAHOOOO!!!!
Actually now the Florida resident pays more than an out of state traveler, it's like they don't need us anymore.
When we used to get a discount, we went at least four times a year, sorry, I have gotten cranky in my old age.
Enough of that, I found some grass that I couldn't mow yesterday because it was underwater..................YAHOOOO!!!!
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Lol, may have to dig a drainage ditch.
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I know what you mean, I'm a big Epcot fan myself, but we haven't been in years because of the cost, they used to have Florida resident discounts, but they forgot the real reason Disney had these places built, the CEO of Disney takes home almost 50 million a year salary, now there is something wrong with that.
Actually now the Florida resident pays more than an out of state traveler, it's like they don't need us anymore.
When we used to get a discount, we went at least four times a year, sorry, I have gotten cranky in my old age.
Enough of that, I found some grass that I couldn't mow yesterday because it was underwater..................YAHOOOO!!!!
Lol, may have to dig a drainage ditch.
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I did dig a ditch several years ago, the problem is, more rain than the ditch can handle.
I won't go into detail, but the state installed drainage in the median between the four lane highway near us and routed it into our drain field.
Can you tell why I get backups?........can't win....Lol
I won't go into detail, but the state installed drainage in the median between the four lane highway near us and routed it into our drain field.
Can you tell why I get backups?........can't win....Lol
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Well, after having my new Snapper for two days, I need to clarify a couple things.
The seat is sprung and adjustable, the engine is quiet and smooth, the mower deck is what makes all the noise.
The cut is magnificent, the handling is easy, I could cut a straight line after driving the mower for ten minutes.
There is no ROPS, which I like because of so many trees in my yard, I did not have to duck or move any limbs out of the way.
It has two Five gallon gas tanks, which it needs for the added weight over the back wheels.
I like the bearing guards, the powder coating is superb, the blade drive belt looks to be very high quality.
The front wheels and casters work very well, I wonder about some brands that use a lot of caster, too much will cause the mower to not stay on an incline.
The Snapper pro seems to use less than most which I believe will help it maintain it's heading on a slope, and the fact that it has less caster does not hinder the maneuverability in any way, you just think about changing direction and those wheels will rotate.
The only drawback I found is the lack of traction when I mow down into the ditch, I'm sure it's because of our ground being saturated with water, it doesn't look like we are going to get any real dry weather for a while.
We have earth worms crawling around on the concrete trying to get out of the saturated soil...........worst rain fall in many years.
After it dries out I will attempt to mow along the ditch and not down into it.
I have to stop now, I think I heard the grass grow, I'm going out and check, talk at you later..................Ron
The seat is sprung and adjustable, the engine is quiet and smooth, the mower deck is what makes all the noise.
The cut is magnificent, the handling is easy, I could cut a straight line after driving the mower for ten minutes.
There is no ROPS, which I like because of so many trees in my yard, I did not have to duck or move any limbs out of the way.
It has two Five gallon gas tanks, which it needs for the added weight over the back wheels.
I like the bearing guards, the powder coating is superb, the blade drive belt looks to be very high quality.
The front wheels and casters work very well, I wonder about some brands that use a lot of caster, too much will cause the mower to not stay on an incline.
The Snapper pro seems to use less than most which I believe will help it maintain it's heading on a slope, and the fact that it has less caster does not hinder the maneuverability in any way, you just think about changing direction and those wheels will rotate.
The only drawback I found is the lack of traction when I mow down into the ditch, I'm sure it's because of our ground being saturated with water, it doesn't look like we are going to get any real dry weather for a while.
We have earth worms crawling around on the concrete trying to get out of the saturated soil...........worst rain fall in many years.
After it dries out I will attempt to mow along the ditch and not down into it.
I have to stop now, I think I heard the grass grow, I'm going out and check, talk at you later..................Ron
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Shughes717
Thanks for your review. Wet ground does cause some problems on slopes. Having a zero turn mower brings a new meaning to the phrase " watching grass grow" doesn't it? :laughing:
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Shughes717
Well, after having my new Snapper for two days, I need to clarify a couple things.
The seat is sprung and adjustable, the engine is quiet and smooth, the mower deck is what makes all the noise.
The cut is magnificent, the handling is easy, I could cut a straight line after driving the mower for ten minutes.
There is no ROPS, which I like because of so many trees in my yard, I did not have to duck or move any limbs out of the way.
It has two Five gallon gas tanks, which it needs for the added weight over the back wheels.
I like the bearing guards, the powder coating is superb, the blade drive belt looks to be very high quality.
The front wheels and casters work very well, I wonder about some brands that use a lot of caster, too much will cause the mower to not stay on an incline.
The Snapper pro seems to use less than most which I believe will help it maintain it's heading on a slope, and the fact that it has less caster does not hinder the maneuverability in any way, you just think about changing direction and those wheels will rotate.
The only drawback I found is the lack of traction when I mow down into the ditch, I'm sure it's because of our ground being saturated with water, it doesn't look like we are going to get any real dry weather for a while.
We have earth worms crawling around on the concrete trying to get out of the saturated soil...........worst rain fall in many years.
After it dries out I will attempt to mow along the ditch and not down into it.
I have to stop now, I think I heard the grass grow, I'm going out and check, talk at you later..................Ron
Thanks for your review. Wet ground does cause some problems on slopes. Having a zero turn mower brings a new meaning to the phrase " watching grass grow" doesn't it? :laughing:
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Yes, During the growing season I can cut my grass three times a week, it grows that fast, I cut my lawn at the highest setting, it is thick and lush and does not need watering much, approximately once every three weeks.
I just justified my ZTM, I mow one acre three times a week that is the same as three acres once a week.
I just tripled my yard......Lol.
I just justified my ZTM, I mow one acre three times a week that is the same as three acres once a week.
I just tripled my yard......Lol.
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Lol, was going to wait till after the titans game to mow mine today. After watching them stink up the first half I think I'm going to go ahead and start now. Looks like I'm going to have to wait at least one more year to have a good football team in tennessee. Oh well, at least I get some great weather to mow in today.
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Yes, During the growing season I can cut my grass three times a week, it grows that fast, I cut my lawn at the highest setting, it is thick and lush and does not need watering much, approximately once every three weeks.
I just justified my ZTM, I mow one acre three times a week that is the same as three acres once a week.
I just tripled my yard......Lol.
Lol, was going to wait till after the titans game to mow mine today. After watching them stink up the first half I think I'm going to go ahead and start now. Looks like I'm going to have to wait at least one more year to have a good football team in tennessee. Oh well, at least I get some great weather to mow in today.
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I would be mowing also, but Sunday is our quiet day, we don't do much on Sunday.
Look out Monday as soon as the grass is dry. We have had three days without rain and everything is drying up.
Look out Monday as soon as the grass is dry. We have had three days without rain and everything is drying up.
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Shughes717
I have work Monday through Friday and a daughter playing soccer, so it is 6:30 pm before I get home during the week. Had company yesterday, so today was my only chance to mow this week. Made good time, and the temp was just right mid 70s.
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Shughes717
I would be mowing also, but Sunday is our quiet day, we don't do much on Sunday.
Look out Monday as soon as the grass is dry. We have had three days without rain and everything is drying up.
I have work Monday through Friday and a daughter playing soccer, so it is 6:30 pm before I get home during the week. Had company yesterday, so today was my only chance to mow this week. Made good time, and the temp was just right mid 70s.
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wingstrut
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wingstrut
Know what you mean, being a parent takes a lot of time out of your normal daily chores.
We had temps in the high eighties, the grass was dry at 2:00 pm. I edged, mowed, string trimmed and blew the grass off of everything by 3:30, about ten minutes later it started to rain, I made it, my wife was very happy that I completed the whole process in less than two hours, but not as happy as I am.
I normally take two days to do the yard, 2 hours one day and 1.5 hours the next.
I actually felt comfortable enough to mow at the full eight mph and the mower did great, I did about six passes at that speed then I slowed back down.
I still haven't gotten used to the controls because I left six or seven digits in the lawn from not turning the mower correctly.
I found that just backing up at the end of the row then proceeding forward again is the easiest and doesn't mess up the grass.
I have no problem driving around with the engine is running at 1/4 throttle, but when I open it up to mow then everything is much more sensitive.
I'm still glad I picked this one, I do have a little problem on the incline in the front yard, I could use another two hundred pounds on the rear wheels, maybe I can find some wheel weights.
I think this will all change when the ditch dries up.
We had temps in the high eighties, the grass was dry at 2:00 pm. I edged, mowed, string trimmed and blew the grass off of everything by 3:30, about ten minutes later it started to rain, I made it, my wife was very happy that I completed the whole process in less than two hours, but not as happy as I am.
I normally take two days to do the yard, 2 hours one day and 1.5 hours the next.
I actually felt comfortable enough to mow at the full eight mph and the mower did great, I did about six passes at that speed then I slowed back down.
I still haven't gotten used to the controls because I left six or seven digits in the lawn from not turning the mower correctly.
I found that just backing up at the end of the row then proceeding forward again is the easiest and doesn't mess up the grass.
I have no problem driving around with the engine is running at 1/4 throttle, but when I open it up to mow then everything is much more sensitive.
I'm still glad I picked this one, I do have a little problem on the incline in the front yard, I could use another two hundred pounds on the rear wheels, maybe I can find some wheel weights.
I think this will all change when the ditch dries up.
#53
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zmister11
it might be fine but I don't think it's good to drive around at 1/4th the throttle. Though I could be wrong.
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zmister11
Know what you mean, being a parent takes a lot of time out of your normal daily chores.
We had temps in the high eighties, the grass was dry at 2:00 pm. I edged, mowed, string trimmed and blew the grass off of everything by 3:30, about ten minutes later it started to rain, I made it, my wife was very happy that I completed the whole process in less than two hours, but not as happy as I am.
I normally take two days to do the yard, 2 hours one day and 1.5 hours the next.
I actually felt comfortable enough to mow at the full eight mph and the mower did great, I did about six passes at that speed then I slowed back down.
I still haven't gotten used to the controls because I left six or seven digits in the lawn from not turning the mower correctly.
I found that just backing up at the end of the row then proceeding forward again is the easiest and doesn't mess up the grass.
I have no problem driving around with the engine is running at 1/4 throttle, but when I open it up to mow then everything is much more sensitive.
I'm still glad I picked this one, I do have a little problem on the incline in the front yard, I could use another two hundred pounds on the rear wheels, maybe I can find some wheel weights.
I think this will all change when the ditch dries up.
it might be fine but I don't think it's good to drive around at 1/4th the throttle. Though I could be wrong.
#54
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Shughes717
I don't think it good on the hydros to move around unless at full throttle either. Makes the hydros whine bad at anything less than full throttle. Wingstrut, have you considered adding fluid to the rear tires?
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Shughes717
it might be fine but I don't think it's good to drive around at 1/4th the throttle. Though I could be wrong.
I don't think it good on the hydros to move around unless at full throttle either. Makes the hydros whine bad at anything less than full throttle. Wingstrut, have you considered adding fluid to the rear tires?
#55
Ric
I always run at full throttle on the engine mowing and transporting but never above about half with hydros.
Ric
I don't think it good on the hydros to move around unless at full throttle either. Makes the hydros whine bad at anything less than full throttle. Wingstrut, have you considered adding fluid to the rear tires?
I always run at full throttle on the engine mowing and transporting but never above about half with hydros.
#56
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Shughes717
I agree. I was talking about running the engine at full throttle. Although I do run a little faster than half way with my levers especially on smooth ground. That is sound advice though. The easier you are on your equipment the longer it will last.
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Shughes717
I always run at full throttle on the engine mowing and transporting but never above about half with hydros.
I agree. I was talking about running the engine at full throttle. Although I do run a little faster than half way with my levers especially on smooth ground. That is sound advice though. The easier you are on your equipment the longer it will last.
#57
Ric
If your tearing up the turf try using a Y-Turn at the end of every pass. You said you have a little problem on the incline in the front yard, how are you mowing the incline? up and down or across the incline or slope?
Ric
Know what you mean, being a parent takes a lot of time out of your normal daily chores.
We had temps in the high eighties, the grass was dry at 2:00 pm. I edged, mowed, string trimmed and blew the grass off of everything by 3:30, about ten minutes later it started to rain, I made it, my wife was very happy that I completed the whole process in less than two hours, but not as happy as I am.
I normally take two days to do the yard, 2 hours one day and 1.5 hours the next.
I actually felt comfortable enough to mow at the full eight mph and the mower did great, I did about six passes at that speed then I slowed back down.
I still haven't gotten used to the controls because I left six or seven digits in the lawn from not turning the mower correctly.
I found that just backing up at the end of the row then proceeding forward again is the easiest and doesn't mess up the grass.
I have no problem driving around with the engine is running at 1/4 throttle, but when I open it up to mow then everything is much more sensitive.
I'm still glad I picked this one, I do have a little problem on the incline in the front yard, I could use another two hundred pounds on the rear wheels, maybe I can find some wheel weights.
I think this will all change when the ditch dries up.
If your tearing up the turf try using a Y-Turn at the end of every pass. You said you have a little problem on the incline in the front yard, how are you mowing the incline? up and down or across the incline or slope?
#58
Ric
Never heard of semi commercial? The ZT-3100 is designed for commercial applications. The zt3400 and the zt5400 are designed for heavier commercial applications. All the hydro-gear drives are basically made the same with the exception of the sizes of the pump and motors. The installation of drives in mowers is determined by the weight of the mower and or gvw. The best drives are separate pumps and wheel motors, something like Parker. Smoother operation, quicker response and a heck of a lot easier to maintain.
Ric
I know from experience the ezt hydros and the zt2800 are not good on hills. The zt3400 and the zt5400 are both considered full commercial. The zt 3100 is semi commercial.
Never heard of semi commercial? The ZT-3100 is designed for commercial applications. The zt3400 and the zt5400 are designed for heavier commercial applications. All the hydro-gear drives are basically made the same with the exception of the sizes of the pump and motors. The installation of drives in mowers is determined by the weight of the mower and or gvw. The best drives are separate pumps and wheel motors, something like Parker. Smoother operation, quicker response and a heck of a lot easier to maintain.
#59
Elendil
Yep. That's a big reason why I went with the Z723. Those Parker pumps are the best.
Elendil
Never heard of semi commercial? The ZT-3100 is designed for commercial applications. The zt3400 and the zt5400 are designed for heavier commercial applications. All the hydro-gear drives are basically made the same with the exception of the sizes of the pump and motors. The installation of drives in mowers is determined by the weight of the mower and or gvw. The best drives are separate pumps and wheel motors, something like Parker. Smoother operation, quicker response and a heck of a lot easier to maintain.
Yep. That's a big reason why I went with the Z723. Those Parker pumps are the best.
#60
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Shughes717
Semi commercial is what I call estate mowers. Designed for large lawns, but not for commercial landscaping. The larger pumps also generate more torque which is better if the operator wants to pull implements. Won't argue with you about separate pumps and motors being better. One advantage of hydro gear pumps is there are no hydraulic lines. Reduces the possibility of leaks.
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Shughes717
Never heard of semi commercial? The ZT-3100 is designed for commercial applications. The zt3400 and the zt5400 are designed for heavier commercial applications. All the hydro-gear drives are basically made the same with the exception of the sizes of the pump and motors. The installation of drives in mowers is determined by the weight of the mower and or gvw. The best drives are separate pumps and wheel motors, something like Parker. Smoother operation, quicker response and a heck of a lot easier to maintain.
Semi commercial is what I call estate mowers. Designed for large lawns, but not for commercial landscaping. The larger pumps also generate more torque which is better if the operator wants to pull implements. Won't argue with you about separate pumps and motors being better. One advantage of hydro gear pumps is there are no hydraulic lines. Reduces the possibility of leaks.
#61
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Shughes717
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Shughes717
According to mowers direct there are semi pro mowers as well. When you google semi commercial zero turns the husqvarna mz series mowers are shown. My local dealer says the s50xt mowers are semi commercial. I didn't make the term up.
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wingstrut
I'm trying it both ways, I have a line of trees on the slope, when I mow in line I have no problem, it's when I try to turn up hill to mow between the trees is when I lose traction.
When I try to mow down hill then back up I lose traction, if I back down the hill then drive up the hill, then I have no problem.
There is a ditch at the bottom of the incline that is why I have to back up.
I went to the Y turn which works great, thank you!
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wingstrut
If your tearing up the turf try using a Y-Turn at the end of every pass. You said you have a little problem on the incline in the front yard, how are you mowing the incline? up and down or across the incline or slope?
I'm trying it both ways, I have a line of trees on the slope, when I mow in line I have no problem, it's when I try to turn up hill to mow between the trees is when I lose traction.
When I try to mow down hill then back up I lose traction, if I back down the hill then drive up the hill, then I have no problem.
There is a ditch at the bottom of the incline that is why I have to back up.
I went to the Y turn which works great, thank you!
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wingstrut
I should have made it clearer, when I first start the engine cold I run the engine at 1/4 throttle until I get to the front yard then the hydros and engine are warmed up, then I move the throttle to 1/2 then engage the blades, then let them run that way for a minute before opening the throttle.
Then I mow the whole yard wide open, that way nothing is operated cold at maximum rpm.............running cold is what ruins the equipment.
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wingstrut
it might be fine but I don't think it's good to drive around at 1/4th the throttle. Though I could be wrong.
I should have made it clearer, when I first start the engine cold I run the engine at 1/4 throttle until I get to the front yard then the hydros and engine are warmed up, then I move the throttle to 1/2 then engage the blades, then let them run that way for a minute before opening the throttle.
Then I mow the whole yard wide open, that way nothing is operated cold at maximum rpm.............running cold is what ruins the equipment.
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wingstrut
If the tires have tubes, then fluid would be the way to go, my tractors tires are full of fluid for traction.
There is a fluid that is used for that purpose.
I have only mowed the yard twice, so I haven't really figured out the best way to proceed, I really appreciate all the ideas, that will give me many alternatives to choose from............Thanks guys!
I just thought of something, I could eat more ribs and buffalo wings and gain about thirty pounds then I wouldn't have to mess with all that other stuff.....Lol
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wingstrut
I don't think it good on the hydros to move around unless at full throttle either. Makes the hydros whine bad at anything less than full throttle. Wingstrut, have you considered adding fluid to the rear tires?
If the tires have tubes, then fluid would be the way to go, my tractors tires are full of fluid for traction.
There is a fluid that is used for that purpose.
I have only mowed the yard twice, so I haven't really figured out the best way to proceed, I really appreciate all the ideas, that will give me many alternatives to choose from............Thanks guys!
I just thought of something, I could eat more ribs and buffalo wings and gain about thirty pounds then I wouldn't have to mess with all that other stuff.....Lol
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Shughes717
Lol, you would have to eat an awful lot of ribs to gain a couple hundred pounds. Backing up a hill is going to cause traction problems, even with extra weight. I have a power pole and some crate mertles that I have to mow around on a slope. I go around the top first and make the turn around them. I don't pull back on the way down because I lose traction. I let it continue to turn slightly back towards the pole, then I back parallel to the slope and go forward and turn back up the hill wrapping around the pole/tree. Works well for me and I don't chew the grass up.
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Shughes717
If the tires have tubes, then fluid would be the way to go, my tractors tires are full of fluid for traction.
There is a fluid that is used for that purpose.
I have only mowed the yard twice, so I haven't really figured out the best way to proceed, I really appreciate all the ideas, that will give me many alternatives to choose from............Thanks guys!
I just thought of something, I could eat more ribs and buffalo wings and gain about thirty pounds then I wouldn't have to mess with all that other stuff.....Lol
Lol, you would have to eat an awful lot of ribs to gain a couple hundred pounds. Backing up a hill is going to cause traction problems, even with extra weight. I have a power pole and some crate mertles that I have to mow around on a slope. I go around the top first and make the turn around them. I don't pull back on the way down because I lose traction. I let it continue to turn slightly back towards the pole, then I back parallel to the slope and go forward and turn back up the hill wrapping around the pole/tree. Works well for me and I don't chew the grass up.
#66
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Shughes717
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Shughes717
Another problem with extra weight on the back is that it increases soil compaction on your lawn and will cause very visible tire impressions.
#67
Ric
I really don't care what Mowers Direct or Husqvarna say. They'll say anything to sell you a mower. Cub Cadet claimed that there Z-Force was a commercial mower and it had commercial drives which were the 2800 drive but it was no more than there high end residential. Hydro gear who makes the things says The ZT-3100 is designed for commercial applications. The zt3400 and the zt5400 are designed for heavier commercial applications, that comes from there site.
How does your dealer get semi commercial out of compact, easy-to use S50xt is designed specifically for the daily rigors of commercial mowing. This mower may be small in size, but it’s big on features. Now it may be low end Commercial but it's still commercial according to the Snapper site.
Ric
Semi commercial is what I call estate mowers. Designed for large lawns, but not for commercial landscaping. The larger pumps also generate more torque which is better if the operator wants to pull implements. Won't argue with you about separate pumps and motors being better. One advantage of hydro gear pumps is there are no hydraulic lines. Reduces the possibility of leaks.
According to mowers direct there are semi pro mowers as well. When you google semi commercial zero turns the husqvarna mz series mowers are shown. My local dealer says the s50xt mowers are semi commercial. I didn't make the term up.
I really don't care what Mowers Direct or Husqvarna say. They'll say anything to sell you a mower. Cub Cadet claimed that there Z-Force was a commercial mower and it had commercial drives which were the 2800 drive but it was no more than there high end residential. Hydro gear who makes the things says The ZT-3100 is designed for commercial applications. The zt3400 and the zt5400 are designed for heavier commercial applications, that comes from there site.
How does your dealer get semi commercial out of compact, easy-to use S50xt is designed specifically for the daily rigors of commercial mowing. This mower may be small in size, but it’s big on features. Now it may be low end Commercial but it's still commercial according to the Snapper site.
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Shughes717
Just going by what the dealer said. Not splitting hairs. As I mentioned earlier I didn't make the phrase up. You see the zt3100 hydros on what some companies refer to as estate mowers. Those mowers are intended for large properties, not the rigors of commercial landscaping. Not trying to upset you just going by what I read and what I have been told by a dealer I trust. I have seen the Snapper Pro site many times and I have read that as well.
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Shughes717
I really don't care what Mowers Direct or Husqvarna say. They'll say anything to sell you a mower. Cub Cadet claimed that there Z-Force was a commercial mower and it had commercial drives which were the 2800 drive but it was no more than there high end residential. Hydro gear who makes the things says The ZT-3100 is designed for commercial applications. The zt3400 and the zt5400 are designed for heavier commercial applications, that comes from there site.
How does your dealer get semi commercial out of compact, easy-to use S50xt is designed specifically for the daily rigors of commercial mowing. This mower may be small in size, but it痴 big on features. Now it may be low end Commercial but it's still commercial according to the Snapper site.
Just going by what the dealer said. Not splitting hairs. As I mentioned earlier I didn't make the phrase up. You see the zt3100 hydros on what some companies refer to as estate mowers. Those mowers are intended for large properties, not the rigors of commercial landscaping. Not trying to upset you just going by what I read and what I have been told by a dealer I trust. I have seen the Snapper Pro site many times and I have read that as well.
#69
Ric
You said Semi commercial is what you call an estate mower. What do 3100 drives have to do with estate mowers? I do agree that an estate mowers more commonly known as a finishing or grooming mowers are intended for large properties, not for commercial lawn-care but I don't see where the 3100 drives play a part.
Ric
Just going by what the dealer said. Not splitting hairs. As I mentioned earlier I didn't make the phrase up. You see the zt3100 hydros on what some companies refer to as estate mowers. Those mowers are intended for large properties, not the rigors of commercial landscaping. Not trying to upset you just going by what I read and what I have been told by a dealer I trust. I have seen the Snapper Pro site many times and I have read that as well.
You said Semi commercial is what you call an estate mower. What do 3100 drives have to do with estate mowers? I do agree that an estate mowers more commonly known as a finishing or grooming mowers are intended for large properties, not for commercial lawn-care but I don't see where the 3100 drives play a part.
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Shughes717
The estate mowers I have read about had the zt3100 and zt3200 hydros. One example is bush hog brand mowers. Check their website. You call them low end commercial, my dealer and I call them semi commercial, bush hog calls them estate mowers. As I said its kind of splitting hairs.
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Shughes717
You said Semi commercial is what you call an estate mower. What do 3100 drives have to do with estate mowers? I do agree that an estate mowers more commonly known as a finishing or grooming mowers are intended for large properties, not for commercial lawn-care but I don't see where the 3100 drives play a part.
The estate mowers I have read about had the zt3100 and zt3200 hydros. One example is bush hog brand mowers. Check their website. You call them low end commercial, my dealer and I call them semi commercial, bush hog calls them estate mowers. As I said its kind of splitting hairs.
#71
Ric
Not to argue the point but Estate Mowers don't have hydro drives at least none that I've ever seen, they do have a gear box. Estate mowers or more commonly known as finish/grooming mowers are typically a three point hitch for tractors and can have anywhere from two blades to five depending on the size of the deck and are designed for mowing turf grass, I see them everyday on the golf course outside my window. These in the link are what estate mower are that I know.
Estate Mower, Finish Mower, Caroni Mower, Grooming Mower | Agri Supply
Ric
The estate mowers I have read about had the zt3100 and zt3200 hydros.
Not to argue the point but Estate Mowers don't have hydro drives at least none that I've ever seen, they do have a gear box. Estate mowers or more commonly known as finish/grooming mowers are typically a three point hitch for tractors and can have anywhere from two blades to five depending on the size of the deck and are designed for mowing turf grass, I see them everyday on the golf course outside my window. These in the link are what estate mower are that I know.
Estate Mower, Finish Mower, Caroni Mower, Grooming Mower | Agri Supply
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Shughes717
Thanks for the link. I think we have both shown our points and it appears as though we use different terminology. I have shown an example of a company using the term estate mower that has zt3100 hydros and you just provided a link to something different. I know you may not believe me, but I do respect your opinion on most things, except your opinion on Snapper Pro and Ferris. Lol. You may be happy to know that I actually recommended a toro z master 2000 to a friend this weekend. He has a little over 2 acres and is looking for a new mower. He was admiring mine and asked what I recommended. He has horses, so I informed him of the equine discount that toro offers and recommended the z master. He also lives in middle tennessee, so he really knows what a hill is like.
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Shughes717
Not to argue the point but Estate Mowers don't have hydro drives at least none that I've ever seen, they do have a gear box. Estate mowers or more commonly known as finish/grooming mowers are typically a three point hitch for tractors and can have anywhere from two blades to five depending on the size of the deck and are designed for mowing turf grass, I see them everyday on the golf course outside my window. These in the link are what estate mower are that I know.
Estate Mower, Finish Mower, Caroni Mower, Grooming Mower | Agri Supply
Thanks for the link. I think we have both shown our points and it appears as though we use different terminology. I have shown an example of a company using the term estate mower that has zt3100 hydros and you just provided a link to something different. I know you may not believe me, but I do respect your opinion on most things, except your opinion on Snapper Pro and Ferris. Lol. You may be happy to know that I actually recommended a toro z master 2000 to a friend this weekend. He has a little over 2 acres and is looking for a new mower. He was admiring mine and asked what I recommended. He has horses, so I informed him of the equine discount that toro offers and recommended the z master. He also lives in middle tennessee, so he really knows what a hill is like.
#73
Ric
Are you saying because I live in Florida I don't know what a hill is like?
Ric
Thanks for the link. I think we have both shown our points and it appears as though we use different terminology. I have shown an example of a company using the term estate mower that has zt3100 hydros and you just provided a link to something different. I know you may not believe me, but I do respect your opinion on most things, except your opinion on Snapper Pro and Ferris. Lol. You may be happy to know that I actually recommended a toro z master 2000 to a friend this weekend. He has a little over 2 acres and is looking for a new mower. He was admiring mine and asked what I recommended. He has horses, so I informed him of the equine discount that toro offers and recommended the z master. He also lives in middle tennessee, so he really knows what a hill is like.
Are you saying because I live in Florida I don't know what a hill is like?
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Shughes717
Lol, no but if you have ever spent time in middle or East Tennessee you may know what I'm talking about when I say they really know what a hill is like. There are no flat places.
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Shughes717
Are you saying because I live in Florida I don't know what a hill is like?
Lol, no but if you have ever spent time in middle or East Tennessee you may know what I'm talking about when I say they really know what a hill is like. There are no flat places.
#76
Ric
Oh goodness you think you have hills in Tenn. LOL from where I was born and raised we called them mole hills.
Ric
Lol, no but if you have ever spent time in middle or East Tennessee you may know what I'm talking about when I say they really know what a hill is like. There are no flat places.
Oh goodness you think you have hills in Tenn. LOL from where I was born and raised we called them mole hills.
#77
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Shughes717
Lol, ok. The smokies are a small mountain range compared to some other in the U.S. I guess. I live in west Tennessee it is flatter than the other pars of the state. Spend time in middle and East Tennessee every year though.
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Shughes717
Oh goodness you think you have hills in Tenn. LOL from where I was born and raised we called them mole hills.
Lol, ok. The smokies are a small mountain range compared to some other in the U.S. I guess. I live in west Tennessee it is flatter than the other pars of the state. Spend time in middle and East Tennessee every year though.
#78
Ric
Yeah I know your down there on the southern end of the Appalachian Mountain Chain, well guess what I was born and raised on the northern end. So I too know what hills are.
Ric
Lol, ok. The smokies are a small mountain range compared to some other in the U.S. I guess. I live in west Tennessee it is flatter than the other pars of the state. Spend time in middle and East Tennessee every year though.
Yeah I know your down there on the southern end of the Appalachian Mountain Chain, well guess what I was born and raised on the northern end. So I too know what hills are.
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Shughes717
The best mower for some of those areas is a goat. :laughing:
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Shughes717
Yeah I know your down there on the southern end of the Appalachian Mountain Chain, well guess what I was born and raised on the northern end. So I too know what hills are.
The best mower for some of those areas is a goat. :laughing:
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diamatron
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diamatron
Do you guys really mow at half speed, taking it easy on your machine to make it last? The reason i bought a commercial grade machine was so I could mow fast and the thing would be heavy duty enough to hold up. I tear through the yard loke there is no tomorrow. If course I do all the maintenance requires.
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Shughes717
You have to remember that ric has a landscaping business, so he will put more hours on a mower in two to three weeks than most, myself included, will put on theirs in a season. I run mine faster than half way. If I didn't run faster it would take me between 3 and 4 hours to mow my 4.2 acres. I do the required maintenance as well and my mower should last me a long time.
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Shughes717
Do you guys really mow at half speed, taking it easy on your machine to make it last? The reason i bought a commercial grade machine was so I could mow fast and the thing would be heavy duty enough to hold up. I tear through the yard loke there is no tomorrow. If course I do all the maintenance requires.
You have to remember that ric has a landscaping business, so he will put more hours on a mower in two to three weeks than most, myself included, will put on theirs in a season. I run mine faster than half way. If I didn't run faster it would take me between 3 and 4 hours to mow my 4.2 acres. I do the required maintenance as well and my mower should last me a long time.
#82
Ric
I'll mow at just better than half speed on the lap bars. You should never mow any faster there's no need. How fast will your mow go?
Ric
Do you guys really mow at half speed, taking it easy on your machine to make it last? The reason i bought a commercial grade machine was so I could mow fast and the thing would be heavy duty enough to hold up. I tear through the yard loke there is no tomorrow. If course I do all the maintenance requires.
I'll mow at just better than half speed on the lap bars. You should never mow any faster there's no need. How fast will your mow go?
#83
Elendil
My mower will go 11-12mph. I'd be thrown off if I mowed at full speed.
Elendil
Do you guys really mow at half speed, taking it easy on your machine to make it last? The reason i bought a commercial grade machine was so I could mow fast and the thing would be heavy duty enough to hold up. I tear through the yard loke there is no tomorrow. If course I do all the maintenance requires.
My mower will go 11-12mph. I'd be thrown off if I mowed at full speed.
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Shughes717
Lol, I would if I mowed at full speed all the time. I can only open it up on a few places on my lawn. I do mow a fast as I can and still stay in the seat.
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Shughes717
My mower will go 11-12mph. I'd be thrown off if I mowed at full speed.
Lol, I would if I mowed at full speed all the time. I can only open it up on a few places on my lawn. I do mow a fast as I can and still stay in the seat.
#86
Ric
You'd probably be correct in that statement. Even though the mower will run 11-12 mph it's not designed to cut grass at that speed.
Ric
My mower will go 11-12mph. I'd be thrown off if I mowed at full speed.
You'd probably be correct in that statement. Even though the mower will run 11-12 mph it's not designed to cut grass at that speed.
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zmister11
What's the point in designing a mower to go that fast if you can't even cut grass going that speed. Its a too fast for me anyways lol but just curious
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zmister11
You'd probably be correct in that statement. Even though the mower will run 11-12 mph it's not designed to cut grass at that speed.
What's the point in designing a mower to go that fast if you can't even cut grass going that speed. Its a too fast for me anyways lol but just curious
#88
Ric
Even though the mower will run 11-12 mph it's not designed to cut grass at that speed. A lot of mowers make claims of speeds of 18 to 20 mph but they can't cut grass at that speed. Regardless of how fast you want to drive or go the blades only cut at or up to between 18 and 19000 fpm so the faster the mower is moving the more degrading the cut. So you ask what's the point?
Those mower speeds were developed on a commercial mower to be run in the Transport mode only so the commercial operator could get back and load and get to the next job. Look at it this way.... Well what's the point of having a car with a v8 engine that will run 120mph? You don't take your car out and drive it on the highway that fast just because it will do it, do you, Heck NO and the reason you don't is because if you did it wouldn't last long and neither will a mower.
Ric
What's the point in designing a mower to go that fast if you can't even cut grass going that speed. Its a too fast for me anyways lol but just curious
Even though the mower will run 11-12 mph it's not designed to cut grass at that speed. A lot of mowers make claims of speeds of 18 to 20 mph but they can't cut grass at that speed. Regardless of how fast you want to drive or go the blades only cut at or up to between 18 and 19000 fpm so the faster the mower is moving the more degrading the cut. So you ask what's the point?
Those mower speeds were developed on a commercial mower to be run in the Transport mode only so the commercial operator could get back and load and get to the next job. Look at it this way.... Well what's the point of having a car with a v8 engine that will run 120mph? You don't take your car out and drive it on the highway that fast just because it will do it, do you, Heck NO and the reason you don't is because if you did it wouldn't last long and neither will a mower.
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Shughes717
Totally agree. Dixie chopper has a mower they claim can go better than 20mph, but there is no way it could mow that fast. Even if it could the rider would be thrown from the seat. Mine will only go 10 mph. Seems to cut ok at that speed as long as I cut every 5 to 7 days, but i can't mow that fast everywhere. It does cut better when I slow down a little though.
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Shughes717
Even though the mower will run 11-12 mph it's not designed to cut grass at that speed. A lot of mowers make claims of speeds of 18 to 20 mph but they can't cut grass at that speed. Regardless of how fast you want to drive or go the blades only cut at or up to between 18 and 19000 fpm so the faster the mower is moving the more degrading the cut. So you ask what's the point?
Those mower speeds were developed on a commercial mower to be run in the Transport mode only so the commercial operator could get back and load and get to the next job. Look at it this way.... Well what's the point of having a car with a v8 engine that will run 120mph? You don't take your car out and drive it on the highway that fast just because it will do it, do you, Heck NO and the reason you don't is because if you did it wouldn't last long and neither will a mower.
Totally agree. Dixie chopper has a mower they claim can go better than 20mph, but there is no way it could mow that fast. Even if it could the rider would be thrown from the seat. Mine will only go 10 mph. Seems to cut ok at that speed as long as I cut every 5 to 7 days, but i can't mow that fast everywhere. It does cut better when I slow down a little though.
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zmister11
Oh okay that makes sense
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zmister11
Even though the mower will run 11-12 mph it's not designed to cut grass at that speed. A lot of mowers make claims of speeds of 18 to 20 mph but they can't cut grass at that speed. Regardless of how fast you want to drive or go the blades only cut at or up to between 18 and 19000 fpm so the faster the mower is moving the more degrading the cut. So you ask what's the point?
Those mower speeds were developed on a commercial mower to be run in the Transport mode only so the commercial operator could get back and load and get to the next job. Look at it this way.... Well what's the point of having a car with a v8 engine that will run 120mph? You don't take your car out and drive it on the highway that fast just because it will do it, do you, Heck NO and the reason you don't is because if you did it wouldn't last long and neither will a mower.
Oh okay that makes sense
#91
Ric
For Dixie Chopper, Hustler, Altoz and others there speed claims and what they've done to there mowers is all about being the Big Boy on the block. There speed machines with there 14 and 15 gallon fuel tanks and 35 to 37 hp engines are actually about worthless. They cost three times what there worth and cost three times as much to operate.
Ric
Totally agree. Dixie chopper has a mower they claim can go better than 20mph, but there is no way it could mow that fast. Even if it could the rider would be thrown from the seat. Mine will only go 10 mph. Seems to cut ok at that speed as long as I cut every 5 to 7 days, but i can't mow that fast everywhere. It does cut better when I slow down a little though.
For Dixie Chopper, Hustler, Altoz and others there speed claims and what they've done to there mowers is all about being the Big Boy on the block. There speed machines with there 14 and 15 gallon fuel tanks and 35 to 37 hp engines are actually about worthless. They cost three times what there worth and cost three times as much to operate.
#92
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Shughes717
Again, I totally agree. Why buy a mower like that? It won't mow at those speeds. Why would anyone need a mower that has two engines and goes 25 mph. The deck can't handle speeds anywhere near that.
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Shughes717
For Dixie Chopper, Hustler, Altoz and others there speed claims and what they've done to there mowers is all about being the Big Boy on the block. There speed machines with there 14 and 15 gallon fuel tanks and 35 to 37 hp engines are actually about worthless. They cost three times what there worth and cost three times as much to operate.
Again, I totally agree. Why buy a mower like that? It won't mow at those speeds. Why would anyone need a mower that has two engines and goes 25 mph. The deck can't handle speeds anywhere near that.
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wingstrut
I don't mind trying Lol, I am mowing around crepe myrtles also, it looks like your method will work just fine, I will try it out in a couple days.
I hate to get into this discussion about the commercial mower thing, but............my Snapper dealer who has been in business for at least 30 years says that the S50xt with the 3100 drives is a full commercial mower, it is designed to get in tighter areas than the larger mowers.
Snapper still rates it as a commercial mower............dealers are individuals and they have their own ideas of what a commercial mower is, the video that Snapper has put online states this as a commercial mower, it may not have the power to climb a tree but it still is rated as a commercial mower. It really doesn't matter fellas, it's still a darn good mower and it will last a long time.
Just my 2 cents!
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wingstrut
Lol, you would have to eat an awful lot of ribs to gain a couple hundred pounds. Backing up a hill is going to cause traction problems, even with extra weight. I have a power pole and some crate mertles that I have to mow around on a slope. I go around the top first and make the turn around them. I don't pull back on the way down because I lose traction. I let it continue to turn slightly back towards the pole, then I back parallel to the slope and go forward and turn back up the hill wrapping around the pole/tree. Works well for me and I don't chew the grass up.
I don't mind trying Lol, I am mowing around crepe myrtles also, it looks like your method will work just fine, I will try it out in a couple days.
I hate to get into this discussion about the commercial mower thing, but............my Snapper dealer who has been in business for at least 30 years says that the S50xt with the 3100 drives is a full commercial mower, it is designed to get in tighter areas than the larger mowers.
Snapper still rates it as a commercial mower............dealers are individuals and they have their own ideas of what a commercial mower is, the video that Snapper has put online states this as a commercial mower, it may not have the power to climb a tree but it still is rated as a commercial mower. It really doesn't matter fellas, it's still a darn good mower and it will last a long time.
Just my 2 cents!
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Shughes717
Lol, no worries. I don't take things personal. Everyone has their opinion. I do like the s50xt. Nothing wrong with them. The s50xt has the heavy duty commercial engine.
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Shughes717
I don't mind trying Lol, I am mowing around crepe myrtles also, it looks like your method will work just fine, I will try it out in a couple days.
I hate to get into this discussion about the commercial mower thing, but............my Snapper dealer who has been in business for at least 30 years says that the S50xt with the 3100 drives is a full commercial mower, it is designed to get in tighter areas than the larger mowers.
Snapper still rates it as a commercial mower............dealers are individuals and they have their own ideas of what a commercial mower is, the video that Snapper has put online states this as a commercial mower, it may not have the power to climb a tree but it still is rated as a commercial mower. It really doesn't matter fellas, it's still a darn good mower and it will last a long time.
Just my 2 cents!
Lol, no worries. I don't take things personal. Everyone has their opinion. I do like the s50xt. Nothing wrong with them. The s50xt has the heavy duty commercial engine.
#95
Ric
The Fx600 Kawasaki is the top of the line engine and the drives are commercial drives, it's a commercial mower. The mower itself isn't as heavy duty in the way it's built as some are but it's commercial never the less.
Ric
Lol, no worries. I don't take things personal. Everyone has their opinion. I do like the s50xt. Nothing wrong with them. The s50xt has the heavy duty commercial engine.
The Fx600 Kawasaki is the top of the line engine and the drives are commercial drives, it's a commercial mower. The mower itself isn't as heavy duty in the way it's built as some are but it's commercial never the less.
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Shughes717
Lol, as I said everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Shughes717
The Fx600 Kawasaki is the top of the line engine and the drives are commercial drives, it's a commercial mower. The mower itself isn't as heavy duty in the way it's built as some are but it's commercial never the less.
Lol, as I said everyone is entitled to their opinion.
#97
Ric
I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just don't dispute the manufacturer, there spec's and what they say.
Ric
Lol, as I said everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just don't dispute the manufacturer, there spec's and what they say.
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Shughes717
Lol, glad to see you are not bashing snapper pro and ferris for a change. Not to start anything else, but you did mention earlier in one of your posts that you didn't care what one company (husqvarna) said because they will say anything to sell a mower.
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Shughes717
I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just don't dispute the manufacturer, there spec's and what they say.
Lol, glad to see you are not bashing snapper pro and ferris for a change. Not to start anything else, but you did mention earlier in one of your posts that you didn't care what one company (husqvarna) said because they will say anything to sell a mower.
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Shughes717
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Shughes717
Btw, ric I know you may think I am just trying to have arguments with you on this site, but I do respect your opinion on many things. I have read enough of your posts to understand that you know a lot about landscaping. I don't know what part of Florida you are in, but I wouldn't mind seeing your operation if I were ever down that way.
#100
Ric
They will say anything to sell mowers, especially the Big Box store stuff. Mower dealers are no different than a car dealer. There reps. are there to sell there product and isn't funny that every dealership always has the best on the market.
Ric
Lol, glad to see you are not bashing snapper pro and ferris for a change. Not to start anything else, but you did mention earlier in one of your posts that you didn't care what one company (husqvarna) said because they will say anything to sell a mower.
They will say anything to sell mowers, especially the Big Box store stuff. Mower dealers are no different than a car dealer. There reps. are there to sell there product and isn't funny that every dealership always has the best on the market.
#101
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Shughes717
Lol, you are right. Everyone's product is the best on the market.
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Shughes717
They will say anything to sell mowers, especially the Big Box store stuff. Mower dealers are no different than a car dealer. There reps. are there to sell there product and isn't funny that every dealership always has the best on the market.
Lol, you are right. Everyone's product is the best on the market.
#102
Ric
I didn't say that, I said that's what they say. There's only five mowers on the market I would consider buying at this time and I just bought one of the five.
Ric
Lol, you are right. Everyone's product is the best on the market.
I didn't say that, I said that's what they say. There's only five mowers on the market I would consider buying at this time and I just bought one of the five.
#103
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Shughes717
I was agreeing with you. The "everyone's product is the best on the market" comment was meant to be sarcastic. :smile:
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Shughes717
I didn't say that, I said that's what they say. There's only five mowers on the market I would consider buying at this time and I just bought one of the five.
I was agreeing with you. The "everyone's product is the best on the market" comment was meant to be sarcastic. :smile:
#104
Ric
You say Not to start anything??? Your always trying to start arguments or something with me,
and why would you want to see my operation? Better question is why would I want to show you my operation? 
If your interested in the lawns I do or equipment I use there are plenty of photos in my profile you can view. There isn't anything of value I could show you that would benefit you in anyway. Remember me I'm the one that doesn't know what hills look like. 
Ric
Lol, glad to see you are not bashing snapper pro and ferris for a change. Not to start anything else, but you did mention earlier in one of your posts that you didn't care what one company (husqvarna) said because they will say anything to sell a mower.
Btw, ric I know you may think I am just trying to have arguments with you on this site, but I do respect your opinion on many things. I have read enough of your posts to understand that you know a lot about landscaping. I don't know what part of Florida you are in, but I wouldn't mind seeing your operation if I were ever down that way.
You say Not to start anything??? Your always trying to start arguments or something with me,
and why would you want to see my operation? Better question is why would I want to show you my operation? If your interested in the lawns I do or equipment I use there are plenty of photos in my profile you can view. There isn't anything of value I could show you that would benefit you in anyway. Remember me I'm the one that doesn't know what hills look like.
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Shughes717
Lol, I never said you didn't know what hills look like. How did you get that out of any of my posts? Never said anything about your knowledge of hills. Was just mentioning that my friend does because he lives on a big hill. That's one of the reasons I recommended the z master 2000 for his 2 acres. He also has horses, so with the equine discount he couldn't get any other brand that is comparable for the price. I was just mentioning that I try to make a trip to Florida every other year or so. Was just interested in seeing what size lawns you mow and how your set up is. As far as bringing up that you contradicted yourself goes, you would definitely do the same to me.
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Shughes717
You say Not to start anything??? Your always trying to start arguments or something with me, View attachment 23398and why would you want to see my operation? Better question is why would I want to show you my operation? View attachment 23402 If your interested in the lawns I do or equipment I use there are plenty of photos in my profile you can view. There isn't anything of value I could show you that would benefit you in anyway. Remember me I'm the one that doesn't know what hills look like. View attachment 23397
Lol, I never said you didn't know what hills look like. How did you get that out of any of my posts? Never said anything about your knowledge of hills. Was just mentioning that my friend does because he lives on a big hill. That's one of the reasons I recommended the z master 2000 for his 2 acres. He also has horses, so with the equine discount he couldn't get any other brand that is comparable for the price. I was just mentioning that I try to make a trip to Florida every other year or so. Was just interested in seeing what size lawns you mow and how your set up is. As far as bringing up that you contradicted yourself goes, you would definitely do the same to me.
#106
Ric
I guess you never said I didn't know what a hill looks like, you just insinuated that because I live in Florida that I didn't know what a hill looks like. As I said before If your interested in seeing what size lawns I mow and how my set up is there are plenty of photos in my profile you can view.
Just FYI the town I live in has a total area of 2.2 square miles of land and 0.04 square miles is water. It's kinda of a tiny place, like 1800 people, about 500 households with about 400 families 1 Convenient store and gas station combo up on the main road so there's not much here to look at and the nice thing about the town is the Yankees do visit. :smile:
Ric
Lol, I never said you didn't know what hills look like. How did you get that out of any of my posts? Never said anything about your knowledge of hills. Was just mentioning that my friend does because he lives on a big hill. That's one of the reasons I recommended the z master 2000 for his 2 acres. He also has horses, so with the equine discount he couldn't get any other brand that is comparable for the price. I was just mentioning that I try to make a trip to Florida every other year or so. Was just interested in seeing what size lawns you mow and how your set up is. As far as bringing up that you contradicted yourself goes, you would definitely do the same to me.
I guess you never said I didn't know what a hill looks like, you just insinuated that because I live in Florida that I didn't know what a hill looks like. As I said before If your interested in seeing what size lawns I mow and how my set up is there are plenty of photos in my profile you can view.
Just FYI the town I live in has a total area of 2.2 square miles of land and 0.04 square miles is water. It's kinda of a tiny place, like 1800 people, about 500 households with about 400 families 1 Convenient store and gas station combo up on the main road so there's not much here to look at and the nice thing about the town is the Yankees do visit. :smile:
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Shughes717
Lol, I never intended for you to believe I was insinuating you didn't know what a hill looks like at all. I am from a small town myself, but not that small. There isn't a traffic light or a walmart anywhere in the county I grew up in. Where you live sounds great to me.:wink:
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Shughes717
I guess you never said I didn't know what a hill looks like, you just insinuated that because I live in Florida that I didn't know what a hill looks like. As I said before If your interested in seeing what size lawns I mow and how my set up is there are plenty of photos in my profile you can view.
Just FYI the town I live in has a total area of 2.2 square miles of land and 0.04 square miles is water. It's kinda of a tiny place, like 1800 people, about 500 households with about 400 families 1 Convenient store and gas station combo up on the main road so there's not much here to look at and the nice thing about the town is the Yankees do visit. :smile:
Lol, I never intended for you to believe I was insinuating you didn't know what a hill looks like at all. I am from a small town myself, but not that small. There isn't a traffic light or a walmart anywhere in the county I grew up in. Where you live sounds great to me.:wink:
#108
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Shughes717
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Shughes717
Ric, are you insinuating I am a "Yankee"? If so wouldn't you be calling yourself one as well being from Kentucky? Last time I looked at a map Kentucky was north of Tennessee.:laughing:
#109
Ric
Wow are you lost :laughing: I'm not a hillbilly thank you, and after being and living in Florida for the last 44 yrs I don't consider myself a yankee no matter where I was born.
Ric
Ric, are you insinuating I am a "Yankee"? If so wouldn't you be calling yourself one as well being from Kentucky? Last time I looked at a map Kentucky was north of Tennessee.:laughing:
Wow are you lost :laughing: I'm not a hillbilly thank you, and after being and living in Florida for the last 44 yrs I don't consider myself a yankee no matter where I was born.
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Shughes717
Just wondering. You talk about being from the Appalachian mountains.if you think Kentucky and Tennessee are Yankee states then you need a history lesson. Lol
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Shughes717
Wow are you lost :laughing: I'm not a hillbilly thank you, and after being and living in Florida for the last 44 yrs I don't consider myself a yankee no matter where I was born.
Just wondering. You talk about being from the Appalachian mountains.if you think Kentucky and Tennessee are Yankee states then you need a history lesson. Lol
#111
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LoCo86
We call people who live in Florida southern Yankees. Due to none of them really being from the south.
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LoCo86
Wow are you lost :laughing: I'm not a hillbilly thank you, and after being and living in Florida for the last 44 yrs I don't consider myself a yankee no matter where I was born.
We call people who live in Florida southern Yankees. Due to none of them really being from the south.
#112
Ric
The Appalachian mountain range runs all the way to Canada so why you would think I'm from hillbilly country is somewhat confusing :confused2: and yes to me your a Yankee. Your a foreigner :laughing: or fureigner as we'd say :wink:
Ric
Just wondering. You talk about being from the Appalachian mountains.if you think Kentucky and Tennessee are Yankee states then you need a history lesson. Lol
The Appalachian mountain range runs all the way to Canada so why you would think I'm from hillbilly country is somewhat confusing :confused2: and yes to me your a Yankee. Your a foreigner :laughing: or fureigner as we'd say :wink:
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Shughes717
People who are born and raised north of the Mason-Dixon Line and move south are Yankees no matter how long they have lived in the south. I misunderstood you earlier. I thought you were from Kentucky. The only thing even remotely Yankee about my family is both of my brothers married Yankees. :laughing:
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Shughes717
The Appalachian mountain range runs all the way to Canada so why you would think I'm from hillbilly country is somewhat confusing :confused2: and yes to me your a Yankee. Your a foreigner :laughing: or fureigner as we'd say :wink:
People who are born and raised north of the Mason-Dixon Line and move south are Yankees no matter how long they have lived in the south. I misunderstood you earlier. I thought you were from Kentucky. The only thing even remotely Yankee about my family is both of my brothers married Yankees. :laughing:
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wingstrut
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wingstrut
Come on guys, don't get upset at each other we have the same interests and that is ZTM, When you get into the higher levels of mowers I believe they will all do what you need without breaking down every week.
I lived in west NY in the foot hills of the Allegheny mountains in a Seneca village called Allegany from 1946 to 1957, I have lived in Florida for 57 years.
As far as hills we have some pretty darn big ones in the center of the state, and if you don't think so, I guarantee you wouldn't live if you stepped off of one.
Ric, I'm sorry you are in a bad mood, Hughes717 did not say anything derogatory toward what you were saying he was actually agreeing with you, I think you just took it wrong, I have to agree he is a little head strong about this estate vs commercial thing even though Snapper says it's a commercial mower, we know it is, anyone else can call it what they like, Gee Whiz! I have been called a lot of different things in my life...Ha!Ha!, but I am still me, c'mon guys have a beer and chill.
Lets face it, any company will do what is needed, within the law, to sell their product, if they didn't they would have been out of business a long time ago.
but singling out one manufacturer is not right, they all do it!
I hope I didn't hurt any feelings, just trying to light the peace pipe.
I will be quiet now!!!!!!!.............Ron
I lived in west NY in the foot hills of the Allegheny mountains in a Seneca village called Allegany from 1946 to 1957, I have lived in Florida for 57 years.
As far as hills we have some pretty darn big ones in the center of the state, and if you don't think so, I guarantee you wouldn't live if you stepped off of one.
Ric, I'm sorry you are in a bad mood, Hughes717 did not say anything derogatory toward what you were saying he was actually agreeing with you, I think you just took it wrong, I have to agree he is a little head strong about this estate vs commercial thing even though Snapper says it's a commercial mower, we know it is, anyone else can call it what they like, Gee Whiz! I have been called a lot of different things in my life...Ha!Ha!, but I am still me, c'mon guys have a beer and chill.
Lets face it, any company will do what is needed, within the law, to sell their product, if they didn't they would have been out of business a long time ago.
but singling out one manufacturer is not right, they all do it!
I hope I didn't hurt any feelings, just trying to light the peace pipe.
I will be quiet now!!!!!!!.............Ron
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wingstrut
LoCo86, According to the Florida historical folks, I'm from NY, but have lived here over a half century, so I'm considered a Florida native, I'm actually a Florida Cracker according to the natives in this area.
If anyone wants to get really knitpickin, all you non-native Americans are foreigners.
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wingstrut
We call people who live in Florida southern Yankees. Due to none of them really being from the south.
LoCo86, According to the Florida historical folks, I'm from NY, but have lived here over a half century, so I'm considered a Florida native, I'm actually a Florida Cracker according to the natives in this area.
If anyone wants to get really knitpickin, all you non-native Americans are foreigners.
#116
Ric
I'm not in a bad mood, I'm just picking on Shughes 717 and I think he's doing the same to me, I don't think he is mad or in a bad mood. I don't think either one of us are taking each other seriously at least I'm not. If he really knew where I am and where I was born he mite be surprised. :wink: As far as the Estate mower thing goes, that's Bush Hog name for there mower like the Z Master is Toro's name for there commercial mower it's not what it is. I wish I could have a beer but the doc says No No.
Ric
Come on guys, don't get upset at each other we have the same interests and that is ZTM, When you get into the higher levels of mowers I believe they will all do what you need without breaking down every week.
I lived in west NY in the foot hills of the Allegheny mountains in a Seneca village called Allegany from 1946 to 1957, I have lived in Florida for 57 years.
As far as hills we have some pretty darn big ones in the center of the state, and if you don't think so, I guarantee you wouldn't live if you stepped off of one.
Ric, I'm sorry you are in a bad mood, Hughes717 did not say anything derogatory toward what you were saying he was actually agreeing with you, I think you just took it wrong, I have to agree he is a little head strong about this estate vs commercial thing even though Snapper says it's a commercial mower, we know it is, anyone else can call it what they like, Gee Whiz! I have been called a lot of different things in my life...Ha!Ha!, but I am still me, c'mon guys have a beer and chill.
Lets face it, any company will do what is needed, within the law, to sell their product, if they didn't they would have been out of business a long time ago.
but singling out one manufacturer is not right, they all do it!
I hope I didn't hurt any feelings, just trying to light the peace pipe.
I will be quiet now!!!!!!!.............Ron
I'm not in a bad mood, I'm just picking on Shughes 717 and I think he's doing the same to me, I don't think he is mad or in a bad mood. I don't think either one of us are taking each other seriously at least I'm not. If he really knew where I am and where I was born he mite be surprised. :wink: As far as the Estate mower thing goes, that's Bush Hog name for there mower like the Z Master is Toro's name for there commercial mower it's not what it is. I wish I could have a beer but the doc says No No.
#117
Ric
LOL that's cause most people in Florida are Yankees :laughing: It's retirement heaven.
Ric
We call people who live in Florida southern Yankees. Due to none of them really being from the south.
LOL that's cause most people in Florida are Yankees :laughing: It's retirement heaven.
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Ric is exactly right. I'm having fun as well. I don't think he is being serious. I consider it just playful banter.:laughing: I respect Ric a lot. Yes we have some different opinions, but not as many as people think. As I mentioned earlier. The semi commercial/ estate/low end commercial thing must be regional. That's just what they are called in my neck of the woods. I would have no problem using a s50xt in a business to mow several lawns that average < 1 acre each and I think that is what they are designed for. The only other different opinions Ric and I have is our opinions on snapper pro and ferris mowers. Other than that I seldom disagree with what he posts.
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I'm not in a bad mood, I'm just picking on Shughes 717 and I think he's doing the same to me, I don't think he is mad or in a bad mood. I don't think either one of us are taking each other seriously at least I'm not. If he really knew where I am and where I was born he mite be surprised. :wink: As far as the Estate mower thing goes, that's Bush Hog name for there mower like the Z Master is Toro's name for there commercial mower it's not what it is. I wish I could have a beer but the doc says No No.
Ric is exactly right. I'm having fun as well. I don't think he is being serious. I consider it just playful banter.:laughing: I respect Ric a lot. Yes we have some different opinions, but not as many as people think. As I mentioned earlier. The semi commercial/ estate/low end commercial thing must be regional. That's just what they are called in my neck of the woods. I would have no problem using a s50xt in a business to mow several lawns that average < 1 acre each and I think that is what they are designed for. The only other different opinions Ric and I have is our opinions on snapper pro and ferris mowers. Other than that I seldom disagree with what he posts.
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Sorry Guys it just sounded like it was getting out of hand, and I didn't want to be partly responsible for the clash.
Ric, NO BEER!!!!! how do you manage......Ha!Ha!
My doc says I can't have any coffee, for some people that could be just as bad, actually I can have only one beer a day, man it's hell getting old.
Ric, Hughes717, I live in Mims, FL. it was a little town with one caution light it didn't rate a full fledged traffic light, it has increased in size a little but not as much as expected in the last sixty years, the folks want to keep the so called progress out, there are a lot of rednecks or good old boys as some refer to us in this area, we hunt, fish, mud bog, airboats, ride horses, raise crops and a lot of different farm animals especially horses and cattle.
We bow and black powder hunt, I don't do much hunting anymore, just target shooting.
Do you guys enjoy the same stuff.
Ric, NO BEER!!!!! how do you manage......Ha!Ha!
My doc says I can't have any coffee, for some people that could be just as bad, actually I can have only one beer a day, man it's hell getting old.
Ric, Hughes717, I live in Mims, FL. it was a little town with one caution light it didn't rate a full fledged traffic light, it has increased in size a little but not as much as expected in the last sixty years, the folks want to keep the so called progress out, there are a lot of rednecks or good old boys as some refer to us in this area, we hunt, fish, mud bog, airboats, ride horses, raise crops and a lot of different farm animals especially horses and cattle.
We bow and black powder hunt, I don't do much hunting anymore, just target shooting.
Do you guys enjoy the same stuff.
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Oh yeah, though I don't hunt much these days with three small kids. My oldest daughter is showing interest in it though, so I may get to pick it back up. I hope she wants to duck hunt, because that was one of my favorite sports. I shot my bow so much in college that I frayed the limbs. Hoyt replaced them for free thankfully. I sold my bow several years ago when money got tight and I needed to get my wife a Christmas gift. Always said I would get another one, but haven't done it yet. I haven't gone mudding since I was a kid, but I still help my dad on his farm, so I get to play in the mud from time to time it's just on a mfwd john deere tractor. We also raise Piedmontese cattle and have a few quarter horses. I have never been on an air boat, but I have always wanted to ride on one. Spent many summers on the Tennessee river on boats and jet skis. My grandparents used to own a cabin there. One of my favorite places on earth. I hope I can afford a place there one day. Of all the states not named tennessee I have visited, Florida is my favorite. I can see why so many people move down there. I had an opportunity to work for marine patrol out of college, but I wanted to be a wildlife officer in Tennessee. Took a job at a police department to get post certified so I had a better shot to work for Twra, but found that I have a knack for police work. I enjoy what I do, but sometimes wonder what would have been had I took the job with marine patrol.
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Sorry Guys it just sounded like it was getting out of hand, and I didn't want to be partly responsible for the clash.
Ric, NO BEER!!!!! how do you manage......Ha!Ha!
My doc says I can't have any coffee, for some people that could be just as bad, actually I can have only one beer a day, man it's hell getting old.
Ric, Hughes717, I live in Mims, FL. it was a little town with one caution light it didn't rate a full fledged traffic light, it has increased in size a little but not as much as expected in the last sixty years, the folks want to keep the so called progress out, there are a lot of rednecks or good old boys as some refer to us in this area, we hunt, fish, mud bog, airboats, ride horses, raise crops and a lot of different farm animals especially horses and cattle.
We bow and black powder hunt, I don't do much hunting anymore, just target shooting.
Do you guys enjoy the same stuff.
Oh yeah, though I don't hunt much these days with three small kids. My oldest daughter is showing interest in it though, so I may get to pick it back up. I hope she wants to duck hunt, because that was one of my favorite sports. I shot my bow so much in college that I frayed the limbs. Hoyt replaced them for free thankfully. I sold my bow several years ago when money got tight and I needed to get my wife a Christmas gift. Always said I would get another one, but haven't done it yet. I haven't gone mudding since I was a kid, but I still help my dad on his farm, so I get to play in the mud from time to time it's just on a mfwd john deere tractor. We also raise Piedmontese cattle and have a few quarter horses. I have never been on an air boat, but I have always wanted to ride on one. Spent many summers on the Tennessee river on boats and jet skis. My grandparents used to own a cabin there. One of my favorite places on earth. I hope I can afford a place there one day. Of all the states not named tennessee I have visited, Florida is my favorite. I can see why so many people move down there. I had an opportunity to work for marine patrol out of college, but I wanted to be a wildlife officer in Tennessee. Took a job at a police department to get post certified so I had a better shot to work for Twra, but found that I have a knack for police work. I enjoy what I do, but sometimes wonder what would have been had I took the job with marine patrol.
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Great, I have four bows, two martin recurves one 45 lbs the other 60 lbs, I have a long bow 55 lbs that I made myself for fishing and my favorite is my Howard Hill long bow 55 lbs.
I have made all my arrows and have enough to start a war. LoL.
I'm getting away from all the strenuous out door activities, my tired bod is slowing down due to my heart regulatory meds I'm taking.
The job with the Florida Marine Patrol I think you would have loved, but your job I'm sure is just as good.
I originally wanted to go to Wisconsin and become a forest ranger, but could not afford the 2000.00 a year tuition for seven years back in 1962.
Yes, it took longer and costs more to become a forest ranger than a doctor....What can I say!
I have visited some of the eastern states and they all seem nice, I am more fond of western NY, not because I was from there, but it is beautiful country.
People think of NY as being polluted and full of traffic and a lot of buildings, only NY city not the state.
I'm staying here because I can ride my motorcycle 365 days a year.
You aren't missing a lot from not riding an airboat, you have to wear some serious ear protection, to me that's not fun.
but if you want to get into the shallows to hunt or fish, they come in handy for that.
Florida is getting so over populated it's bad, back in the fifties and sixties it was great, still a lot of wild life and unpopulated swamp land, now it's all being filled in and the traffic is bad, you are better off where you are.
It's kind of funny, I am mostly native American (Seneca) and when we moved to Florida my parents bought a house on the Indian River, now how is that for fate. Lol
SHughes, it sounds like you had a great life so far, keep it up and be happy..........Ron..........Ron interpreted in the Seneca language means, he who should not play with sharp objects. Ha!Ha!
I have made all my arrows and have enough to start a war. LoL.
I'm getting away from all the strenuous out door activities, my tired bod is slowing down due to my heart regulatory meds I'm taking.
The job with the Florida Marine Patrol I think you would have loved, but your job I'm sure is just as good.
I originally wanted to go to Wisconsin and become a forest ranger, but could not afford the 2000.00 a year tuition for seven years back in 1962.
Yes, it took longer and costs more to become a forest ranger than a doctor....What can I say!
I have visited some of the eastern states and they all seem nice, I am more fond of western NY, not because I was from there, but it is beautiful country.
People think of NY as being polluted and full of traffic and a lot of buildings, only NY city not the state.
I'm staying here because I can ride my motorcycle 365 days a year.
You aren't missing a lot from not riding an airboat, you have to wear some serious ear protection, to me that's not fun.
but if you want to get into the shallows to hunt or fish, they come in handy for that.
Florida is getting so over populated it's bad, back in the fifties and sixties it was great, still a lot of wild life and unpopulated swamp land, now it's all being filled in and the traffic is bad, you are better off where you are.
It's kind of funny, I am mostly native American (Seneca) and when we moved to Florida my parents bought a house on the Indian River, now how is that for fate. Lol
SHughes, it sounds like you had a great life so far, keep it up and be happy..........Ron..........Ron interpreted in the Seneca language means, he who should not play with sharp objects. Ha!Ha!
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I have only been to one state north of Virginia, and that is Michigan. I would like to go to the north east during fall. I bet the colors of the turning leaves is awesome to view. My wife and I hope to travel some day to places other than amusement parks.:wink: I love my kids and enjoy every minute with them, but I am to a point in my life where I enjoy scenery better than a roller coaster. I have been to Dusseldorf Germany. It was a neat experience and a culture shock to say the least. Wouldn't go there again unless I had someone with me I trust who speaks german, or I learn the language myself. I think I would have gotten more out of it had I been able to communicate better.
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Great, I have four bows, two martin recurves one 45 lbs the other 60 lbs, I have a long bow 55 lbs that I made myself for fishing and my favorite is my Howard Hill long bow 55 lbs.
I have made all my arrows and have enough to start a war. LoL.
I'm getting away from all the strenuous out door activities, my tired bod is slowing down due to my heart regulatory meds I'm taking.
The job with the Florida Marine Patrol I think you would have loved, but your job I'm sure is just as good.
I originally wanted to go to Wisconsin and become a forest ranger, but could not afford the 2000.00 a year tuition for seven years back in 1962.
Yes, it took longer and costs more to become a forest ranger than a doctor....What can I say!
I have visited some of the eastern states and they all seem nice, I am more fond of western NY, not because I was from there, but it is beautiful country.
People think of NY as being polluted and full of traffic and a lot of buildings, only NY city not the state.
I'm staying here because I can ride my motorcycle 365 days a year.
You aren't missing a lot from not riding an airboat, you have to wear some serious ear protection, to me that's not fun.
but if you want to get into the shallows to hunt or fish, they come in handy for that.
Florida is getting so over populated it's bad, back in the fifties and sixties it was great, still a lot of wild life and unpopulated swamp land, now it's all being filled in and the traffic is bad, you are better off where you are.
It's kind of funny, I am mostly native American (Seneca) and when we moved to Florida my parents bought a house on the Indian River, now how is that for fate. Lol
SHughes, it sounds like you had a great life so far, keep it up and be happy..........Ron..........Ron interpreted in the Seneca language means, he who should not play with sharp objects. Ha!Ha!
I have only been to one state north of Virginia, and that is Michigan. I would like to go to the north east during fall. I bet the colors of the turning leaves is awesome to view. My wife and I hope to travel some day to places other than amusement parks.:wink: I love my kids and enjoy every minute with them, but I am to a point in my life where I enjoy scenery better than a roller coaster. I have been to Dusseldorf Germany. It was a neat experience and a culture shock to say the least. Wouldn't go there again unless I had someone with me I trust who speaks german, or I learn the language myself. I think I would have gotten more out of it had I been able to communicate better.
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I have had my S50xt for a month and I have mowed my 1 acre six times, which is nothing really, I probably will not know how this mower will perform until I have it a couple of years.
So far I haven't seen anything I dislike about it. It seems to be a very rugged machine, performs and handles well.
I have never been on a zero turn until this one and I was mowing with full confidence within 15 minutes and mowing absolute straight rows, not even a wiggle.
It has two five gallon tanks and I'm still running on those.
The only problem I have found is: and this could be similar to all zero turns is, when I mow across a steep incline the wheel that is toward the top of the hill will lose traction, I find I have a problem trying to turn up the hill.
I believe a set of wheel weights would cure this.
This mower is a dream to operate, it's compact and handles beautifully. I will never trade it for another, this is the one for me, also before I forget the cut is tremendous, this mower has cut flawlessly since day one., I had to cut wet grass because it hasn't stopped raining here for a month, there were no clumps or buildup under the mower deck and the lawn looked great.
So far I haven't seen anything I dislike about it. It seems to be a very rugged machine, performs and handles well.
I have never been on a zero turn until this one and I was mowing with full confidence within 15 minutes and mowing absolute straight rows, not even a wiggle.
It has two five gallon tanks and I'm still running on those.
The only problem I have found is: and this could be similar to all zero turns is, when I mow across a steep incline the wheel that is toward the top of the hill will lose traction, I find I have a problem trying to turn up the hill.
I believe a set of wheel weights would cure this.
This mower is a dream to operate, it's compact and handles beautifully. I will never trade it for another, this is the one for me, also before I forget the cut is tremendous, this mower has cut flawlessly since day one., I had to cut wet grass because it hasn't stopped raining here for a month, there were no clumps or buildup under the mower deck and the lawn looked great.
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Glad to see you're happy with your new mower. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks as long as it is what you wanted. The s50xt is a very well built mower. I am also happy with mine. Those who say they don't like snapper pro mowers have most likely just never been around one. I thought about upgrading to a mower with a bigger deck next year, but the one I have now handles my lawn with ease. If I upgraded I would get done too fast. :smile:
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I have had my S50xt for a month and I have mowed my 1 acre six times, which is nothing really, I probably will not know how this mower will perform until I have it a couple of years.
So far I haven't seen anything I dislike about it. It seems to be a very rugged machine, performs and handles well.
I have never been on a zero turn until this one and I was mowing with full confidence within 15 minutes and mowing absolute straight rows, not even a wiggle.
It has two five gallon tanks and I'm still running on those.
The only problem I have found is: and this could be similar to all zero turns is, when I mow across a steep incline the wheel that is toward the top of the hill will lose traction, I find I have a problem trying to turn up the hill.
I believe a set of wheel weights would cure this.
This mower is a dream to operate, it's compact and handles beautifully. I will never trade it for another, this is the one for me, also before I forget the cut is tremendous, this mower has cut flawlessly since day one., I had to cut wet grass because it hasn't stopped raining here for a month, there were no clumps or buildup under the mower deck and the lawn looked great.
Glad to see you're happy with your new mower. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks as long as it is what you wanted. The s50xt is a very well built mower. I am also happy with mine. Those who say they don't like snapper pro mowers have most likely just never been around one. I thought about upgrading to a mower with a bigger deck next year, but the one I have now handles my lawn with ease. If I upgraded I would get done too fast. :smile:
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That is my problem, I had a 30 inch walk behind, I had to do the lawn in two days, by the time I edged, string trimmed and mowed half the yard I was exhausted.
Now I edge, string trim and mow the whole yard in an hour, I found that I actually mow at about 1/2 forward speed, sometimes I mow slower so I can stay on the mower longer.
Now that fall is upon us, the grass will not grow as fast, drats!!!
The deck is what impressed me most, that mower with cut at eight mph as well as three mph.
The second thing that impressed me was the smoothness of the engine...........I'm a motor head, what can I say.
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Glad to see you're happy with your new mower. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks as long as it is what you wanted. The s50xt is a very well built mower. I am also happy with mine. Those who say they don't like snapper pro mowers have most likely just never been around one. I thought about upgrading to a mower with a bigger deck next year, but the one I have now handles my lawn with ease. If I upgraded I would get done too fast. :smile:
That is my problem, I had a 30 inch walk behind, I had to do the lawn in two days, by the time I edged, string trimmed and mowed half the yard I was exhausted.
Now I edge, string trim and mow the whole yard in an hour, I found that I actually mow at about 1/2 forward speed, sometimes I mow slower so I can stay on the mower longer.
Now that fall is upon us, the grass will not grow as fast, drats!!!
The deck is what impressed me most, that mower with cut at eight mph as well as three mph.
The second thing that impressed me was the smoothness of the engine...........I'm a motor head, what can I say.
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The deck cuts pretty well at 10 mph too. I can't help it. I just have to open it up every now and then. When I get a suspension seat I doubt I will slow down much.:laughing: I may even remove the bolts that stop the levers from going all the way forward so I can get a little extra speed out of it.
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That is my problem, I had a 30 inch walk behind, I had to do the lawn in two days, by the time I edged, string trimmed and mowed half the yard I was exhausted.
Now I edge, string trim and mow the whole yard in an hour, I found that I actually mow at about 1/2 forward speed, sometimes I mow slower so I can stay on the mower longer.
Now that fall is upon us, the grass will not grow as fast, drats!!!
The deck is what impressed me most, that mower with cut at eight mph as well as three mph.
The second thing that impressed me was the smoothness of the engine...........I'm a motor head, what can I say.
The deck cuts pretty well at 10 mph too. I can't help it. I just have to open it up every now and then. When I get a suspension seat I doubt I will slow down much.:laughing: I may even remove the bolts that stop the levers from going all the way forward so I can get a little extra speed out of it.