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Removing the discharge chute- why not a locking nut?

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Gym123

I managed to do something that required my removing the chute and it has that stupid little retainer- why didn't they use a bolt and nylock nut? I know, I know, "Cost down", but c'mon!


#2

StarTech

StarTech

It is because push nut (rings) are dirt cheap. and even the push cap style are very cheap and quick to put on. They also can use a robot to install them. Here the 5/16 push rings are only 0.1174 each and those factories cam get them even cheaper.

Without the model number I don't if they are using push rings or push caps.

Also we have people in these factories that don't even know to screw a nut on a bolt(screw).


#3

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Gym123

It is because push nut (rings) are dirt cheap. and even the push cap style are very cheap and quick to put on. They also can use a robot to install them. Here the 5/16 push rings are only 0.1174 each and those factories cam get them even cheaper.

Without the model number I don't if they are using push rings or push caps.

Also we have people in these factories that don't even know to screw a nut on a bolt(screw).
They can't provide T-Shirts with 'Righty-tighty- lefty loosey'?


#4

StarTech

StarTech

But those given the shirts can't read or it seems like that of those I have been talking to lately , a lot of idiots lately on the phone. I even was try to explain to a customer this week that a 3/8 square drive Torq wrench would not work with his 1/2 square drive sockets I gave up after 20 minutes of showing him the differences.


#5

Scrubcadet10

Scrubcadet10

But those given the shirts can't read or it seems like that of those I have been talking to lately , a lot of idiots lately on the phone. I even was try to explain to a customer this week that a 3/8 square drive Torq wrench would not work with his 1/2 square drive sockets I gave up after 20 minutes of showing him the differences.
lol


#6

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Gym123

But those given the shirts can't read or it seems like that of those I have been talking to lately , a lot of idiots lately on the phone. I even was try to explain to a customer this week that a 3/8 square drive Torq wrench would not work with his 1/2 square drive sockets I gave up after 20 minutes of showing him the differences.
If the first person on the phone is clueless, I ask for a higher tier of support. I work in Audio/Video/Networking and major brands that once had people who really knew their products, even going back decades, have gone on to some other job, likely thanks to COVID layoffs. They filled seats without knowledgeable people. I called one electronics distributor that had hired someone who had absolutely no idea what he was dealing with and during the phone call, we chatted a bit and I asked when he started working there and what he did before- he had driven a beer delivery truck. Yeah, that's a 'ready for prime time' employee......


#7

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Forest#2

Possibly a future presidential nominee.

he had driven a beer delivery truck.

If the first person on the phone is clueless, I ask for a higher tier of support. I work in Audio/Video/Networking and major brands that once had people who really knew their products, even going back decades, have gone on to some other job, likely thanks to COVID layoffs. They filled seats without knowledgeable people. I called one electronics distributor that had hired someone who had absolutely no idea what he was dealing with and during the phone call, we chatted a bit and I asked when he started working there and what he did before- he had driven a beer delivery truck. Yeah, that's a 'ready for prime time' employee......


#8

StarTech

StarTech

And here I thought it was that they just had to be anti government lately. Better watch out for Billy Carter..:LOL:.


#9

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BTBO

I managed to do something that required my removing the chute and it has that stupid little retainer- why didn't they use a bolt and nylock nut? I know, I know, "Cost down", but c'mon!
I removed and left off the chute on my mower. I did this cuz the grass is thrown out more evenly instead of having definite lines of cut grass across the lawn.


#10

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BTBO

I managed to do something that required my removing the chute and it has that stupid little retainer- why didn't they use a bolt and nylock nut? I know, I know, "Cost down", but c'mon!
I removed and left off the chute on my mower. I did this cuz the grass is thrown out more evenly instead of having definite lines of cut grass across the lawn.


#11

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Forest#2

I removed and left off the chute on my mower. I did this cuz the grass is thrown out more evenly instead of having definite lines of cut grass across the lawn.

I drill hole in the edge of the discharge chute and install a 1/4 inch eye bolt and fix a short bungee cord to the tractor and I can use the bungee to hold the chute up when going into close quarter areas that would normally rub on the chute and when I need to use the chute to keep rocks and debris from being flung into things such as when mowing close to the house, windows and vehicles I just unhook the bungee from the discharge chute.
Also using the bungee saves the discharge chute from getting damaged when not really needed. Can be dangerous at times when mowing without a discharge chute in use.
A replacement OEM discharge chute is costly now days and the lesser priced China clone chutes are wimpy.


#12

Tiger Small Engine

Tiger Small Engine

Possibly a future presidential nominee.

he had driven a beer delivery truck.

Qualified good new employees are hard to find these days. When you know more than the person that is helping you, it is not uncommon.

It is better to keep exit chute on and keep it raised while mowing. Lower it around people, vehicles, or windows to keep potential rocks from being thrown.


#13

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Douglas Lee

I've got a Husqvarna rider like that, thinking about shortening the chute . . .
What do ya think?
Doug Lee
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#14

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Gym123

I removed and left off the chute on my mower. I did this cuz the grass is thrown out more evenly instead of having definite lines of cut grass across the lawn.
I cut the grass once, then bought a bagging attachment- too much stuff left on the lawn. I don't cut every week and I tend to leave it a bit longer, so the roots can grow deeper during dry periods and the first time was THE first time on a riding mower, so I didn't know what I needed to know. Like tire pressure- I assumed it was correct because the mower had been used this year before I picked it up, but they were all around 8-10psi. I have seen that as OK for the rear, but the front are supposed to be around 14, so I corrected that. The clip for the height adjustment rod on the left side was rotated into the hole, which made adjustment very difficult, so I added a washer and that's fixed. The deck is level, though- the grass is the same height all over, so I'm happy with that.


#15

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Gym123

I drill hole in the edge of the discharge chute and install a 1/4 inch eye bolt and fix a short bungee cord to the tractor and I can use the bungee to hold the chute up when going into close quarter areas that would normally rub on the chute and when I need to use the chute to keep rocks and debris from being flung into things such as when mowing close to the house, windows and vehicles I just unhook the bungee from the discharge chute.
Also using the bungee saves the discharge chute from getting damaged when not really needed. Can be dangerous at times when mowing without a discharge chute in use.
A replacement OEM discharge chute is costly now days and the lesser priced China clone chutes are wimpy.
I knocked the chute off of the pivot rod- that's when I found out they used a crappy clip at the end. I'll be drilling the hole over Winter since I removed the chute before I parked it. I'll also thread the end of the rod, so I can use a nylock nut.

It would be great if WE didn't need to make these into what they should have been, from the factory.


#16

StarTech

StarTech

I will admit some of the chutes are way too big and causes more problem than they solve.


#17

Tiger Small Engine

Tiger Small Engine

I knocked the chute off of the pivot rod- that's when I found out they used a crappy clip at the end. I'll be drilling the hole over Winter since I removed the chute before I parked it. I'll also thread the end of the rod, so I can use a nylock nut.

It would be great if WE didn't need to make these into what they should have been, from the factory.
Or simply drill a small hole in rod and install a hitch pin clip or cotter pin.


#18

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bobL

It is because push nut (rings) are dirt cheap. and even the push cap style are very cheap and quick to put on. They also can use a robot to install them. Here the 5/16 push rings are only 0.1174 each and those factories cam get them even cheaper.

Without the model number I don't if they are using push rings or push caps.

Also we have people in these factories that don't even know to screw a nut on a bolt(screw).


#19

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Honest Abe

what are you going on about.... I just finished snow blowing 8", sheezzzz ⛷️


#20

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Gord Baker

I managed to do something that required my removing the chute and it has that stupid little retainer- why didn't they use a bolt and nylock nut? I know, I know, "Cost down", but c'mon!
You answered your own question!


#21

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Gym123

You answered your own question!

"MBAs of the world, unite!"

We need to invade their annual suare and give everyone of them a giant wedgie and shove their faces in dog doo.

I also believe that anyone who designs any mechanical device or vehicle should be forced to service them for a year, so they'll know what SHOULDN'T be done and where they SHOULDN'T cheap out.


#22

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Boomer49

what are you going on about.... I just finished snow blowing 8", sheezzzz ⛷️
I live down below Tampa, Fla. and it's 56 degrees right now. Projected low tonight is 49 degrees. I grew up in Conn. and don't really miss the snow at all. Today reminds me why. I feel your pain.


#23

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Freddie21

Another form of retainer would be more expensive to purchase and install. The shaft would have to have a hole in it or threaded.


#24

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rhkraft

Just make sure there no kids or pets around that can get hit with thrown rocks and debris. Thats why the deflectors are there. You hold them up with a bungee cord.


#25

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Gym123

I live down below Tampa, Fla. and it's 56 degrees right now. Projected low tonight is 49 degrees. I grew up in Conn. and don't really miss the snow at all. Today reminds me why. I feel your pain.

I have a friend in the Immakele area and he's originally from Joliet, IL, but moved to KC in '94, retired to central Missouri and then to FL as a parents' condition declined. All he does is complain about hot & humid this, hurricane that......If I call today, he's say it's cold. Jeez, some people- it's supposed to reach 31 here today after two days at/below 20, but we're supposed to have three days above 42 next weekend. I'll take that.

It snowed here Thursday and Friday, screwed up my shoulder AGAIN after I finished on Thursday and had to use the two stage on Friday, but it wasn't too bad- good think it's self-propelled. If I'd had to shovel or use the dinky one, I would have had to pay someone. That's what I get for buying a house with a 105' driveway.


#26

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Gym123

Another form of retainer would be more expensive to purchase and install. The shaft would have to have a hole in it or threaded.

It's not like they made those in house- all they would have to do is spec it differently, order, receive and install them. It's not a huge hardship. It does, however, require engineers to think reasonably, rather than using pure logic. I think that an automated machine, they could thread well over 100/hour, rather than squashing the bulge on the end but they probably make that and the ring at the other end at the same time.

If you haven't serviced boats, you should look online for horror stories about removing and reinstalling oil filters, raw water pump hoses and other parts. It's clear that those nimrods have never worked on a boat in their lives.


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