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Pull cord has some tension but does not turn the engine

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shobuddy

This is on a Craftsman 917.376480 lawn mower with a 675 series Briggs & Stratton engine. About half way done mowing the lawn, I went to pull the starter cord and after a few pulls, the cord stopped turning the engine. There is still some tension on the cord as it recoils if I let it go but something has happened where it no longer turns the engine. I'm not very technical but it feels like the cord has come disconnected from the engine and is just maintaining tension with a spring. I'm going to open it up but wondering if anyone can help with a diagnosis based on the symptoms I described. Previously I had the cord loose all tension and had a mechanic replace the coil assembly but this is different in that it still has a bit of tension. This time I'd like to do the fix myself if at all possible. TIA


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ILENGINE

Broken starter pawls in the SUSA cup Need to remove blower housing to access inside of starter to assess what is actually wrong.


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Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Yep those little white plastic Pawl/dogs like ILENGINE said are most likely the issue.

When you take the air shroud off look at the recoil when you pull on it. If you don't see 2 lil white pawls jump out then that is your problem ~!~!


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shobuddy

Thank you guys for the feedback. I opened the mower and noticed both pawls had fallen out. They don't look damaged to me but I'm not an expert. Do I need to replace the friction plate instead? Or replace the pawls AND the friction plate? Or just the pawls? Or just put the existing parts back together?


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Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Well you could put it all back together and hope for the best. IF it does it again then order new parts.

Something caused them to fall out in the first place. Maybe the rope was a bit short when the repair was done. If you yank hard and way back then you are putting things in a bind.

If the repair was done right then try to put it all back. Those hoods can take a lot of stress...........


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shobuddy

Having a helluva time trying to get the friction plate screw off. The screw well is not very deep so I can't get any traction. I've sprayed PB penetrating spray on it but still no luck. Any ideas?

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ILENGINE

5/16 6 point socket. Bolt could have factory dry type thread locker on it.


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shobuddy

5/16 6 point socket. Bolt could have factory dry type thread locker on it.

I tried 5/16 but screw is too big. I've tried many sizes and nothing fits. I know 5/16 is the official size but the screw is just a little too big for the socket. Even tried lightly tapping the socket onto the screw with no luck. GrrrrrrrRRRRRRRR


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Ronno6

Ronno6

8mm socket is slightly larger than 5/15"


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WyrTwister

Sounds like the same problem I am having . Are there 2 little springs in there too ?

Which of these parts / repair kits look correct for this application ?

https://www.ebay.com/p/Rotary-13587-Starter-Pawl-Kit-for-Briggs-and-Stratton/1308809514

Thanks , :)
Wyr
God bless


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shobuddy

Sounds like the same problem I am having . Are there 2 little springs in there too ?

Which of these parts / repair kits look correct for this application ?

https://www.ebay.com/p/Rotary-13587-Starter-Pawl-Kit-for-Briggs-and-Stratton/1308809514

Thanks , :)
Wyr
God bless

I have not been able to get the screw off yet to answer your question about the springs. That said, I did order the item below so once I do get it off, I'll have what I need. I think I only need a new screw but the screw price on amazon is about the same as the ebay item below.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rewind-Star...9-281505-691696-13587-Free-Ship-/252639034035


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WyrTwister

Used a nut driver attachment for my cordless , to remove the screw on mine .

The photo in your link barely shows 2 springs , each in a track of the black plastic " plate " . Interesting .......

Please let me know how that turns out , when you receive the parts .

Thanks , :)
Wyr
God bless


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shobuddy

Used a nut driver attachment for my cordless , to remove the screw on mine .

The photo in your link barely shows 2 springs , each in a track of the black plastic " plate " . Interesting .......

Please let me know how that turns out , when you receive the parts .

Thanks , :)
Wyr
God bless

I'm not very mechanically inclined so bare with me but how did you use a nut driver to remove a screw?


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WyrTwister

Just unscrewed the screw . Counter clock wise .

Wyr
God bless


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Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Used a nut driver attachment for my cordless , to remove the screw on mine .

The photo in your link barely shows 2 springs , each in a track of the black plastic " plate " . Interesting .......

Please let me know how that turns out , when you receive the parts .

Thanks , :)
Wyr
God bless

Yes I agree that is not the right part you ordered. I wish you would have said something about buying one earlier I would have given you one for free........


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WyrTwister

Yes I agree that is not the right part you ordered. I wish you would have said something about buying one earlier I would have given you one for free........

I have not purchased parts yet . If you have the correct parts , I would be happy to pay you for them .

Thanks , :)
Wyr
God bless


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Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Boudreaux In Eunice La.

I have not purchased parts yet . If you have the correct parts , I would be happy to pay you for them .

Thanks , :)
Wyr
God bless


Nope no money just shipping cost.


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WyrTwister

Thanks ! :)

Private Message sent .

Wyr
God bless


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shobuddy

I ended up cutting out the friction plate using a hand saw and then I had enough room to use locking pliers to remove the screw. I noticed the friction plate has no springs and the ebay item I purchased has springs so is this what you are referring to as far as being the wrong part? Furthermore, there are two issues I see with the bottom to the friction plate. First, in the two pawl slots, one slot has a pin that fits into the pawl. The other slot looks like the pin has broken off. Second, while cutting the friction plate off, I accidentally cut into its bottom backing. Both of these are illustrated in the attached images. Am I still good go to in installing a friction plate on these two issues or do I now need to replace more parts?

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Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Boudreaux In Eunice La.

I ended up cutting out the friction plate using a hand saw and then I had enough room to use locking pliers to remove the screw. I noticed the friction plate has no springs and the ebay item I purchased has springs so is this what you are referring to as far as being the wrong part? Furthermore, there are two issues I see with the bottom to the friction plate. First, in the two pawl slots, one slot has a pin that fits into the pawl. The other slot looks like the pin has broken off. Second, while cutting the friction plate off, I accidentally cut into its bottom backing. Both of these are illustrated in the attached images. Am I still good go to in installing a friction plate on these two issues or do I now need to replace more parts?

Yes that what we were referring too as the wrong part. When I quoted on Wyr Twisters post. I have several of those if you want one let me know all it'll cost you is the shipping cost. It will be the whole assembly ~!~!


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Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Boudreaux In Eunice La.

Hey guys I made a lil video to answer a couple questions. Here is the link .........

https://youtu.be/dYSWwGOQgPM


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shobuddy

Hey guys I made a lil video to answer a couple questions. Here is the link .........

https://youtu.be/dYSWwGOQgPM

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shobuddy

Just want to give a shout-out to Boudreaux. He sent me the part free of charge with just shipping charges and talked me through getting the part onto my mower. He also answered several other questions I had about the mower. He is a super genuine guy and the real deal. Thanks Boudreaux!


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