So should I be using a different oil filter? If so, which one?More common on Kohler filters than people realize. I see 1-2 every year that I had installed by hand just like you and by the next spring tuneup are leaking and can be removed with two fingers. Kohler had issues a few years ago with filters coming loose from the factory. Had to due with how the O ring is installed at the filter factory and had manufacturing oil trapped under the gasket. Briggs must of been having the same issues a couple of years ago also because they now have a torque spec for the filter. Depending on where you look it is 87-100 lb/in.
Changed oil in my Kioti tractor back in April of last year. and after running 40 hours started leaking. Had to take the filter another 1/2 turn with a wrench to stop the leak. Pulled the filter shortly thereafter and replace it.
What kind of oil filter wrench to you have that will fit a Kohler filter, and mate to a torque wrench?I started using my torque wrench set at 100 lb/in a couple of years ago, and haven't had a loose filter since. The recommended torque spec is tighter then what one gets by tightening by hand. Have always used Kohler filters and the loose filter issue seems to be hit and miss, but seems to always occur on the same mowers every time.
Thanks.I use one similar to this one https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/...pfm0/w54063?q=76+mm+oil+filter+wrenches&pos=1
The above oil filter was installed by hand. If this problem has only been observed when using air tools, that doesn't explain what I experienced.We have received some isolated reports of oil seepage/leaking at the base of the oil filter. The condition is usuallynot evident until the engine has been run.The filter manufacturer uses oil as a lubricant when the end cap is crimped into the filter canister. In some cases,excess oil was captured in the groove when the gasket was installed. The oil would form a hydraulic lock underthe rapid tightening/compression speed of the assembly line air wrench, giving a false indication that the filterhad reached proper torque. From the heat and vibration of operation, the oil will thin and begin to seep out of thegroove, allowing the gasket tension and joint to relax. The oil from the groove may seep to the outside, and oilmay also leak past the relaxed gasket joint.If a complaint is received, or a Kohler-powered product is being set up/serviced in your shop, the oil filter shouldbe checked to ensure that it is sufficiently tight. The recommended installation procedure is hand-tightening3/4-1 turn after the rubber gasket contacts the adapter. The tension on the gasket is applied more graduallyduring hand tightening, so any oil in the groove has a chance to escape. The filter manufacturer will also stampfour V-impressions in the inner groove ring, so oil can escape to the inside, even during machine tightening.As we reprint owner’s and service manuals we will change the recommended hand-tightening from 2/3-1 turn to3/4-1 turn after the rubber gasket contacts the adapter. Torquing the oil filters is no longer recommended, so thetorque value of 10-13 N·m (90-110 in. lb.) will be removed
We get mowers in all the time with loose oil filters. All makes and models with all types of engines. Expansion and contraction due to heating and cooling will make the gaskets shrink and cause it to leak.
.We get mowers in all the time with loose oil filters. All makes and models with all types of engines. Expansion and contraction due to heating and cooling will make the gaskets shrink and cause it to leak.
I can understand that this could happen, but the same thermal expansion & contraction occurs with automotive engines. And I've learned over the years to tighten automotive oil filters less & less, as it usually requires a wrench to get them loose. They are ALWAYS tighter when I take them off than when I put them on.We get mowers in all the time with loose oil filters. All makes and models with all types of engines. Expansion and contraction due to heating and cooling will make the gaskets shrink and cause it to leak.
In this case most likely it was a manufacturing defect such crimping the cup not tight enough. Or like the Purlator here where when they made the cup they over stretched the metal and the heavy paint hide the defect.Sometimes the issue may be related to the filter itself. Had the last 3 filters in a box of 12 leak within minutes of installation. The previous 9 in the box didn't leak or the filters in the new box. My Kioti DK45S filter started leaking after 9 months and 40 hours. None of those filters were physically loose and couldn't be tightened by hand.
In my case, though, the filter WAS loose. The gasket was still in contact with the block, but just barely. I could move it with two fingers.Sometimes the issue may be related to the filter itself. Had the last 3 filters in a box of 12 leak within minutes of installation. The previous 9 in the box didn't leak or the filters in the new box. My Kioti DK45S filter started leaking after 9 months and 40 hours. None of those filters were physically loose and couldn't be tightened by hand.
I have seen two different riding mower engines destroyed last year due to the oil filter being too loose. Of course the filters require an oil filter wrench to remove, that’s what you want! Not being able to spin it easily with your left hand only-oil leaked out and broken connecting rod.In my case, though, the filter WAS loose. The gasket was still in contact with the block, but just barely. I could move it with two fingers.
Ideally, I'd like for the filter to be tight enough for me to be barely able to loosen it by hand. I've found that point for automotive filters about 80% of the time. I already have 5 oil filter wrenches, but will need a 6th to fit this filter where it's located. My mower works great, but engine access is not the greatest, and it's fuel injected, with a huge fuel pump right over the oil filter. Getting to the oil filter is a pain.Of course the filters require an oil filter wrench to remove, that’s what you want!