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#1

R

rstevenson

own a Husqevarna rider, 23HP,Briggs engine. Looking for a oil filter to replace the B&S part #492932. Too expensive!


#2

M

motoman

rs, The topic hits nerves in the forum. The pros generally stick by factory issue. I use any I can find like Wix. Fram, WalMart's finest. The key is to do a little checking on thread compatibility and clearance of deeper cans. Armor suit on.

PS. Although e.g., Briggs hints at "cooler" running with their filters I have not seen any proof.


#3

Mike88se

Mike88se

motoman said:
rs, The topic hits nerves in the forum. The pros generally stick by factory issue. I use any I can find like Wix. Fram, WalMart's finest. The key is to do a little checking on thread compatibility and clearance of deeper cans. Armor suit on.

PS. Although e.g., Briggs hints at "cooler" running with their filters I have not seen any proof.
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LOL got that right... any forum that deals w/ IC engines.
OP... There are links on the net and maybe here that list equivilent brands of filters, even for lawn mowers. I like Wix/Napa too and Purolater.


#4

L

logan01

The B&S part number crosses over to Fram PH8170. In the included link, scroll down to "Competitor Cross Reference" and it lists several filters crossed to the Fram which should also cross to yours, if accurate. Runtime Error Don't let Runtime Error bother you. That's just how it linked.


#5

Ric

Ric

motoman said:
rs, The topic hits nerves in the forum. The pros generally stick by factory issue. I use any I can find like Wix. Fram, WalMart's finest. The key is to do a little checking on thread compatibility and clearance of deeper cans. Armor suit on.

PS. Although e.g., Briggs hints at "cooler" running with their filters I have not seen any proof.
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Did you ever think maybe the Pro's stick by the factory issue(OEM) for a reason. They may cost a little more, but it could be a lot cheaper in the long run. Basically you'll never save enough money buying oil filters to replace an engine.


#6

I

ILENGINE

The reason the pro's stick with OEM is on occasion a faulty oil filter will get through quality control. Now so for example you buy an oil filter from Napa and it is $4 and that happens to be the faulty one, and it damages the engine beyond repair. What will Napa do as far as warranting there product. Will they supply a new engine for you. Now lets say the Briggs filter is $10 and that filter fails and kills the engine. Briggs will supply you with either a new engine or short block to repair you engine because their product caused the engine failure. And it doesn't matter if the engine is 10 years old.


#7

L

logan01

Never lost an engine due to a bad filter, ever. Walmart brand, though no longer made under the name Super Tech, was made by Champion Labs. They always ranked in the top 2-3 filters in tests conducted by independent labs. Briggs and Stratton, like many others, bid their filters out annually. I use K&N in all my vehicles for the sole reason of the welded on 1" hex bung.


#8

I

ILENGINE

logan01 said:
Never lost an engine due to a bad filter, ever. Walmart brand, though no longer made under the name Super Tech, was made by Champion Labs. They always ranked in the top 2-3 filters in tests conducted by independent labs. Briggs and Stratton, like many others, bid their filters out annually. I use K&N in all my vehicles for the sole reason of the welded on 1" hex bung.
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I have had 2 go through the shop over the years. One the OEM replaced the engine. The other was a aftermarket and received a free filter.


#9

M

motoman

To this homeowner it is a shock to see Sears price a Briggs Intek oil filter @ $12. I believe pros should enjoy a markup to make a living. In the market anything over 10% is good stuff. But hold the bubble packed Briggs in your hand @ $12 and payday loans come to mind. Even if the Briggs is good, is it worth 100% more , or more? As noted it would be if it could be shown to cool the AC engine even 10% better, but apparently it can't just like synthetic oil cannot COOL better. Printers come to mind with their loss leader machines and their insanely priced, sole sourced ink. Except there are choices for the filter buyer. Again I say put a couple gauges on all AC rigs with a buzzer, red light warning and a rubber hammer strike to the forehead to warn of overheat/oil loss- for about the price of 10 Briggs filters. Then enjoy the improved reliability and reputation.


#10

Ric

Ric

motoman said:
To this homeowner it is a shock to see Sears price a Briggs Intek oil filter @ $12. I believe pros should enjoy a markup to make a living. In the market anything over 10% is good stuff. But hold the bubble packed Briggs in your hand @ $12 and payday loans come to mind. Even if the Briggs is good, is it worth 100% more , or more? As noted it would be if it could be shown to cool the AC engine even 10% better, but apparently it can't just like synthetic oil cannot COOL better. Printers come to mind with their loss leader machines and their insanely priced, sole sourced ink. Except there are choices for the filter buyer. Again I say put a couple gauges on all AC rigs with a buzzer, red light warning and a rubber hammer strike to the forehead to warn of overheat/oil loss- for about the price of 10 Briggs filters. Then enjoy the improved reliability and reputation.
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To a homeowner it would probable be a shock. As far as the pros go they wouldn't be paying any where close to that price for the same filter because most buy bulk at half that price. I buy a dozen at a time for like $6.50 each at the dealership.


#11

M

Mad Mackie

Check out this link.BRIGGS-STRATTON 492932S - Alternative oil filters
The 492932S is a shorter length version of the 492932 for use in limited locations.
I buy Briggs # 696854 in a 12 pac from equipatron.com, they price out at $8.30 each in a 12 pac.
As an aircraft mech, now retired, the oil filters were cut open as required by FAA Regs, the filter element spread out and inspected for ferrous and non ferrous metal.
I still have the filter cutter tool and I periodically cut open random oil filters. There are noticeable internal differences between oil filter manufacturers, some of which cause some concern.:confused2:


#12

J

Jack17

rstevenson said:
own a Husqevarna rider, 23HP,Briggs engine. Looking for a oil filter to replace the B&S part #492932. Too expensive!
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OEM Filter for B&S engine with free shipping on Ebay - $5.87
Two quarts of 30W motor oil - $6
DIY oil change - free (15 mins of your time at the beginning of a season)
Big smirk on you face hearing that engine roar...priceless!!!


#13

M

motoman

I guess IL ENG is referring to a catastrophic type failure in his experiences with off brand filters, while MADMACKIE is suggesting insufficient filtering ability in the lesser filters. But isn't more wear damage done with poor maintenance of AIR FILTERS, or poor fit-design which causes home owners problems ? Abrasive particles in the cylinders scratch and "machine" away ring seal and bore diameters. Some of these particles are caught in the oil filter. The Intek air filter on my Craftsman DYT 4000 works well now , but at first I was having difficulty with it. I now lightly coat the sponge rubber sealing surfaces with white grease so I can "read" that the surfaces are meeting properly. Intek changed the filter later, I think, but how many owners experienced early engine failure because of this "seemingly" simple design problem?


#14

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Mad Mackie

Another problem that I have run into with aftermarket oil filters is the thickness of the metal. Some applications tighten the filters during engine operation and they crush when a normal oil filter wrench is put on them for removal. Been wrenching since the late 50s at power equipment, boat, auto, aircraft and truck dealers with 21 years od active duty military mixed in. The only oil filters that I have had problems with were aftermarket.
As for air filters, zero turn machines are by nature of design dusty machines and more so with a collection system. The typical rider/garden tractor not so much, but here again I use the OEM air filters. Some Briggs Inteks twins did/do have air leaks around the air filter and the housings.


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