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No oil pressure on Kawasaki FH580V -19 hp zero turn mower after rebuild

#1

L

lstill

Hey guys tore down my 19 hp kawasaki in my Toro commercial zero turn mower...new rings .gaskets etc....only problem the center case gasket I ordered they sent the wrong gasket after two weeks so just used rtv sealer like newer mowers use. Only problem is the two oil pump o rings were damaged and couldnt find them online so just used the rtv sealer around ports....started right up but noticed when I adjusted valves that there was no oil in the valve covers .....dont wont to burn it up just wondering if not using the o ring seals where the oil pump meets upper enjine case would cause bad oil flow to top end...Any help appreciated. Larry


#2

T

txmowman

There is not pressurized oil to the valve train. This area relies on splash or windage lubrication.


#3

Craftsman Garage

Craftsman Garage

No oil pressure and you're toast 😬 ask @StarTech if he knows where you can get the seal.


#4

Scrubcadet10

Scrubcadet10

Whats your spec/code number?
FH580v-_ _ _ _
usually DS08 or something in that format


#5

L

lstill

Thanks guys....1st rebuild on the Kawasaki......the prefix is FH580V-AS16 I pulled valve covers and normally there is an accumulation of noil in the bottom that will drain out....The center case gasket I ordered they sent exhaust gaskets.....got tired of waiting so used high temp RTV sealant...mated cases let set 30 minutes ....torqued to specs....just a little worried that not having the two oil pump o ring seals between may cause a loss os oil pressure....maybe worrying for nothing......just hate to see it fly apart! anyway thanks so much for your help.....


#6

StarTech

StarTech

FH580V-AS16

I going have to call my distributor on this one. IPLs not showing any O-rings used between the crankcase and the cover plate (sump) and I getting conflicted info on the crankcase cover gasket. One place I get 11060-7008 and another one that I rely on has it as 11061-1497. Both are valid numbers but which one is correct I will have to find out. Also I to ask about the o-rings. I suspect you ordered the 11060-7008 gasket.

Now as RTV if used should only finger tight for 12-24 hrs and then torqued down. Also you then wait another 12 hrs before adding oil so the RTV gets fully cured.RTV will not hold if not fully cured. Also it can squeeze out and clog oil passages when not fully cured. Besides the gasket used is also a shim to provide correct clearances.


#7

ILENGINE

ILENGINE

FH580V-AS16

I going have to call my distributor on this one. IPLs not showing any O-rings used between the crankcase and the cover plate (sump) and I getting conflicted info on the crankcase cover gasket. One place I get 11060-7008 and another one that I rely on has it as 11061-1497. Both are valid numbers but which one is correct I will have to find out. Also I to ask about the o-rings. I suspect you ordered the 11060-7008 gasket.

Now as RTV if used should only finger tight for 12-24 hrs and then torqued down. Also you then wait another 12 hrs before adding oil so the RTV gets fully cured.RTV will not hold if not fully cured. Also it can squeeze out and clog oil passages when not fully cured. Besides the gasket used is also a shim to provide correct clearances.
11060-7008 is supposed to be the engine sump gasket. No hint of sump O rings. And the 11061-1497 is coming back to a 2017 Kawasaki motorcycle.


#8

StarTech

StarTech

Then either Kawasaki USA or Kawasaki Europe has the incorrect info. I got support guy on it but he out of pocket this morning helping others.


#9

StarTech

StarTech

Okay my tech got back and he coming with the 11060-7008 too. But he is requesting the equipment model number so he could go from that side of things just in case we got a incorrect model spec number case.


#10

T

txmowman

11060-7008 is the correct gasket. No orings, no sealant. @StarTech is correct that the gasket is also a shim and must be used. Also, don't forget the washer that sits on the snap ring at the end of the camshaft.


#11

L

lstill

Thanks guys....if the supplier sent the right gasket wouldn't be having problem.....Think the rtv may be partially obstructing the oil galley.....Not easy finding the information you need on the Kawasaki motors....worse case senerio pull oil sump off clean mating surfaces and put on the gasket without sealer,,,,thanks for everyone's input!


#12

StarTech

StarTech

You would not be having the problem if you were just had a little more patience. You just can't assume things. Look here it is taking me up to four months to get some parts lately. Matter of fact I am currently awaiting a muffler that should be available the first week of December; hopefully.

I was once was told assume was acronym for making an (ass) out of (u) and (me). Experience is a great teacher but can be expensive at times. Hopefully you didn't clog any of the internal oil passages but you find out if engine fails and you have to have a replacement. RTV will setup in 30 in the open air but will take multiple hours in a confined space.

As for parts you just can't order any odd part and expect to work; you must order and receive the correct PN. You do need however use a reliable vendor such as Partstree or Jack's. eBay and Amazon are not good sources most times. But they will only send you what you order, they are not mind readers. In my case I do have a good Kawasaki distributor I use here but I am a regular shop.

What do you mean hard to find info?

Service manual and IPLs are available online. Just got to ask for the links.

IPLs for the engine is available at https://kawasakienginesusa.com/

They are also available from https://www.kawasaki-engines.eu/en/support/electronic-parts-catalogue/ Although that site does have a different PN for the crankcase sump gasket which why I going to be ordering both PNs and compare them. It will take some time as one is not in stock at the distributor I use. I got hunch that they are the same.

Service Manual is available from https://mymowerparts.com/pdf/


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