Great forum. I will fill in more at a later date including pictures. I was talking to someone who made a very interesting comment. Did the federal government really ban 2strokes or is this just an excuse to quit making them. Let's face it, the only good thing I can say about Toro is I never owned one. They continued to make 2stroke snowblowers for a few years. Chainsaws and weedwackers continue to be 2strokes. Outboards and snowmobiles are still using them. And KTM is still making 2stroke dirt bikes and Yamaha last fall reintroduced the 2stroke YZ 250. Maybe the Feds did have some influence but sounds like they wanted to cut cost. Buy a company use it or every cent and dump it. Think Toro might have there eyes on Honda:laughing: