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New Raptor 36" - uneven mowing pattern

#1

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CMOS

Howdy All,

Just picked up a 36" Raptor with 5 hours on the meter for $900! 15 HP Kawasaki motor.

Did my first mowing yesterday and did see some pretty ugly, uneven rows. I noted that when I set my deck height (second to the very highest) the deck is slanted downward in the front. If I continue to lower the deck to one of the 2 lowest points the deck seems to be fairly level.

I plan to only mow on the 2 highest settings. I'm assuming I need to level the front of the deck with that leadscrew shaft on the very front?

Thoughts?

CMOS


#2

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shiftsuper175607

Howdy All,

Just picked up a 36" Raptor with 5 hours on the meter for $900! 15 HP Kawasaki motor.

Did my first mowing yesterday and did see some pretty ugly, uneven rows. I noted that when I set my deck height (second to the very highest) the deck is slanted downward in the front. If I continue to lower the deck to one of the 2 lowest points the deck seems to be fairly level.

I plan to only mow on the 2 highest settings. I'm assuming I need to level the front of the deck with that leadscrew shaft on the very front?

Thoughts?

CMOS

Seems I have read here that a SLIGHT forward slope is good.

Can you explain more the mowing problems you are having?

How are your blades....sharp? level...side to side?


#3

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Kremeneon

Yep. Park it on concrete and check all your tires for proper pressure. Then put the deck where you would mow and start measuring from the blade tips to the concrete and adjust to get them even front back and side to side.


#4

C

CMOS

Seems I have read here that a SLIGHT forward slope is good.

Can you explain more the mowing problems you are having?

How are your blades....sharp? level...side to side?


I did just sharpen the blades myself. I will check the blade heights tonight, in the garage, which is probably the most level spot to do so. I had not thought of measuring their heights above the concrete...

The problems I'm having? - My 9-year old daughter calls me back outside after mowing the front lawn, noting that "It doesn't look even", and showed me where she saw (it was evident) uneven grass heights.:laughing: I still have the entire back to mow, which is considerably larger than the front. When I get home I will do a couple passes, in very straight lines, to better describe exactly what the problem pattern looks like.

Having said that, it's very obvious looking at the deck, that it's sloping downward in the front on the current height setting.


CMOS


#5

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kraky

Once the deck is set for level it should stay level at all cutting Heights. If it is tilted down the tips of the blades will cut a lower swats at the front of the deck leaving little valleys in line with the spindle of the blade. Also cutting at a very high cutting height if you do not have very thick grass can also leave a ragged cut because the wind from the blades can blow the grass around and they can escape being cut clean by the blades. These principles apply to any brand of Mower and mower deck.


#6

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CMOS

Didn't get to mess with this last night but should be good to go tonight.

Is it correct that there is no height adjustment on the deck SIDES? Just the lever adjusting the back and leadscrew shaft on the front, correct?


CMOS


#7

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CMOS

UPDATE: Mystery found. Mystery solved.

I got my wrenches to adjust the front height of the deck, only to find that there was no more adjustment to be had. The front of the deck was already at its highest position as I could not tighten that large lock nut on the very front of the pivot shaft. That seemed odd to me as the front of the deck is tilting down by at least 5 degrees. It appeared that I would need to remove that 2-inch long nut behind the large pivot pin and replace with a shorter one. What 2-inch nut you ask? Allow me to explain.

There was a 2-inch nut behind the large pivot pin, which was taking up all of the thread length that I needed to tighten the very front nut, which would theoretically raise the deck front. When I removed that 2-inch nut all became clear. The threaded shaft was broken, so the previous owner used a 2-inch long nut as a union to "fix" the broken shaft. However, the very length of the nut took up all the thread length so there was no more adjustment to be had. I will try to insert a pic below.

A new shaft has been ordered so that should take care of the odd (low) front deck height. I should get that in 3 or 4 days.

CMOS

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#8

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Kremeneon

:thumbdown: previous owner that slammed into something and broke that. Are there any other signs of crashing into something?

:thumbsup: to you for finding it.


#9

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CMOS

:thumbdown: previous owner that slammed into something and broke that. Are there any other signs of crashing into something?

:thumbsup: to you for finding it.


No, everything else looks literally brand new. Not even any paint wear. My neighbor bought this brand new and used it for only one summer. Then it sat in her garage for 2 years before the "garage sale". :thumbsup: I drained the fuel out, replaced battery, and had to clean out the high speed jet, then she ran like a demon. I also changed oil and used full synthetic.

I will report back after I have the part and have done a little mowing.

TWG


#10

mhavanti

mhavanti

Cmos,

Just remove the union, get yourself a new long thread bolt, weld it to the original and you're all set.

You could make a longer bolt to put the strain on the shaft of the bolt and away from the threads. Make it happen and you'll be done with replacing that bolt.

Max


#11

C

CMOS

Cmos,

Just remove the union, get yourself a new long thread bolt, weld it to the original and you're all set.

You could make a longer bolt to put the strain on the shaft of the bolt and away from the threads. Make it happen and you'll be done with replacing that bolt.

Max

Thanks for the input. New one already inbound, but if ti happens again I will go this route.


CMOS


#12

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kraky

The things you will learn on the forums.... I am 61 years old and never heard of a two-inch long Union nut until today! I can hardly wait to wake up and find out what's new tomorrow....lol!


#13

mhavanti

mhavanti

Kraky,

Well, you are just a pup after all. If you live, you'll learn a couple more things as the calendar pages continues flipping. lol

Max


#14

7394

7394

Once the deck is set for level it should stay level at all cutting Heights. If it is tilted down the tips of the blades will cut a lower swats at the front of the deck leaving little valleys in line with the spindle of the blade. Also cutting at a very high cutting height if you do not have very thick grass can also leave a ragged cut because the wind from the blades can blow the grass around and they can escape being cut clean by the blades. These principles apply to any brand of Mower and mower deck.

According to the Manual & to the manuals I have had with all previous mowers as well. You set Level "Side to side" Then you check the slope to front, in spec is from 1/16" to 5/16" lower in front.

I set slope @ 1/8" lower in front with me on board. The cut is primo.

Check your Owners Manual, your single blade mower 'may' be different.


#15

C

CMOS

According to the Manual & to the manuals I have had with all previous mowers as well. You set Level "Side to side" Then you check the slope to front, in spec is from 1/16" to 5/16" lower in front.

I set slope @ 1/8" lower in front with me on board. The cut is primo.

Check your Owners Manual, your single blade mower 'may' be different.

7394,

My Raptor 36 is a 2-blade. The manual I have, and all that I could find on-line, do not have any info at all on the deck adjustment FOR MY VERSION. These manuals all seem to apply to the SD's. However, it's obvious as to how to adjust with that front pivot shaft (the part that broke on mine).

I did receive the new part, which is considerably thicker and stronger than the original. I guess Hustler paid attention to all the replacement orders for this part. The new part appears to also be made form that slightly gold Grade-8 material. MUCH beefier. I made my first adjustment, then mowed, and got a pretty good cut.

I have to get used to this type of mower as the cut seems to be greatly effected by the terrain's topography. Much more so than my previous JD L118 Riding Mower. This statement isn't really a complaint, as I just cut my mowing time to less than half of what it used to be, but the cut on the Raptor is not as dead-pan level as my last JD.

I'll take your advice on the front deck height adjustment on the next mowing day.

CMOS


#16

mhavanti

mhavanti

CMOS,

Before you level the deck side to side and front to rear. Make sure your tires are dead on the same pressures side to side. The narrow tires on the zero turn require a great deal more pressure than a wider tire. Wider tires work with volume as well as pressure. Narrow operate simply on pressure.

So, find the sweet spot your hillsides require so that you no longer scalp or make crop circles when you back up. From that point on, use that air pressure. Also at that point, make sure you have then managed a side to side level and whatever you like on the front to rear level.

That should get you up running dead pan level across your cutting areas.

Max


#17

C

CMOS

Other than tire pressure I don't see any way to adjust the deck height side-to-side. Am I missing something?


CMOS


#18

mhavanti

mhavanti

CMOS,

Check for these things as well:

36-42 Raptor.jpg

Max


#19

C

CMOS

CMOS,

Check for these things as well:

View attachment 39928

Max



Will do. Thanks.

CMOS


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