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Need opinions on Gravely ZTR
#1
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Dataz722
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Dataz722
I am in need of a new mower and really can't decide what to get. I want something that will last and isn't going to be junk or be replaced in 5 years, but I really don't have much money available right now. I have about an acre that is flat except for a decent sized ditch in the front that needs to be cut and is is somewhat smooth but it is bumpy in areas.
I am looking at some Gravely zero-turns and want to know if the ZTXL is really worth the ~$1300 over the entry level ZT. They are the same motor but I know the XL has a heavy gauge welded deck where the ZT's is stamped. Other than that is there much difference? And is it worth the extra money when money is really tight?
Is there anything else out there that I should look at as well? I was looking at the toro timecutter but heard some not so great things about it which made me look at the gravelys. I am also not dead set on a ZTR, but it seems that with what a decent tractor would cost it isn't much more to get the ZTR, unless there is something I am missing.
And getting used isn't an option right now since money is tight and I will need to get from a dealer that is offering 0% financing.
Thanks.
I am looking at some Gravely zero-turns and want to know if the ZTXL is really worth the ~$1300 over the entry level ZT. They are the same motor but I know the XL has a heavy gauge welded deck where the ZT's is stamped. Other than that is there much difference? And is it worth the extra money when money is really tight?
Is there anything else out there that I should look at as well? I was looking at the toro timecutter but heard some not so great things about it which made me look at the gravelys. I am also not dead set on a ZTR, but it seems that with what a decent tractor would cost it isn't much more to get the ZTR, unless there is something I am missing.
And getting used isn't an option right now since money is tight and I will need to get from a dealer that is offering 0% financing.
Thanks.
#3
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Dataz722
I haven't looked into that one at all. Why would you choose that over the Gravely?
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Dataz722
look at the Hustler Raptor, they come in 42 and 52 size.
I haven't looked into that one at all. Why would you choose that over the Gravely?
#4
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Dataz722
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Dataz722
Well they do have a dealer that is really close to me. I just called and they are certainly cheaper, which is a good thing but are they just as good or better quality?
#5
Old Goat
Old Goat
Looked at Gravely too.
After much searching and learning, found out that Hustler was the first ZTR mower in 1966, starting looking hard at them then finally decided on a Big Dog.
Made by the same people Excel Industries and built like a brick you know what. Commercial grade Hydraulic wheel motors heavier than that Gravely.
I paid $4800 + tax for a R754 and can't say enough good about it.
If you are looking for a smaller size, they would be cheaper than what I paid.
You owe it to yourself to check them out. Simple yet strong.
R-Series Zero-Turn Commercial Grade Riding Mowers - Big Dog Mowers
After much searching and learning, found out that Hustler was the first ZTR mower in 1966, starting looking hard at them then finally decided on a Big Dog.
Made by the same people Excel Industries and built like a brick you know what. Commercial grade Hydraulic wheel motors heavier than that Gravely.
I paid $4800 + tax for a R754 and can't say enough good about it.
If you are looking for a smaller size, they would be cheaper than what I paid.
You owe it to yourself to check them out. Simple yet strong.
R-Series Zero-Turn Commercial Grade Riding Mowers - Big Dog Mowers
#6
djdicetn
Dataz722,
IMHO, yes...the upgrade from the base ZT(regular residential model) to the ZT XL is worth the $1300 diffeence on the 42" model. First, the benefits(durability and cut) of the fabricated deck and secondly, the benefits(servicable ZT-2800 trannies on the XL versus the sealed EZT trannies on the XL). The base ZT is a very good basic residential ZTR and would indeed give you 5 years(or better if well maintained) of service, but as with anything you get what you pay for and the XL would give longer service, more durability and better quality of cut. Once you begin looking at spending "several" thousands of dollars on a quality ZTR mower you need to save up and get the best you can afford. Just for you to think about......add another $900 to that extra $1300(now your talking $2200 more than the 42" base ZT) and you could find yourself the proud owner of a 44"(smallest deck they have) ZT HD Gravely that is for all intents and purposes "near Commercial" quality. The ZT HD is just below my Pro-Turn XDZ 100 Commercial and I am extremely pleased with it. When you compare apples to apples between all of the leading brands in regard to features and build you will see Gravely shine as the best for your money compared to most others when it comes to build, durability and warranty for the money. If you compare to Hustler, Cub Cadet Zero Force, etc. which are all good machines just make sure the series/models are similar across the different brands and have similar deck construction, trannies, engines etc. Believe me I went through this process last fall and looked at different ZTR's until my head was spinning . There are so many good ones you will need to decide what's most important to you and it may be a difficult decision. We forum members will assist with any information we can to help. Best of luck finding the ZTR that is right for you!!!
P.S.
On Toros(also very good "dealer models"....Timecutters are Home Depot, etc. geared towards the "masses"), you need to find a Toro dealer and look at/compare the Titan ZX or Titan MX series to these others. Those Toros are excellent Residential machines and you can again add those to the comparison mix for pricing, etc.
djdicetn
I am in need of a new mower and really can't decide what to get. I want something that will last and isn't going to be junk or be replaced in 5 years, but I really don't have much money available right now. I have about an acre that is flat except for a decent sized ditch in the front that needs to be cut and is is somewhat smooth but it is bumpy in areas.
I am looking at some Gravely zero-turns and want to know if the ZTXL is really worth the ~$1300 over the entry level ZT. They are the same motor but I know the XL has a heavy gauge welded deck where the ZT's is stamped. Other than that is there much difference? And is it worth the extra money when money is really tight?
Is there anything else out there that I should look at as well? I was looking at the toro timecutter but heard some not so great things about it which made me look at the gravelys. I am also not dead set on a ZTR, but it seems that with what a decent tractor would cost it isn't much more to get the ZTR, unless there is something I am missing.
And getting used isn't an option right now since money is tight and I will need to get from a dealer that is offering 0% financing.
Thanks.
Dataz722,
IMHO, yes...the upgrade from the base ZT(regular residential model) to the ZT XL is worth the $1300 diffeence on the 42" model. First, the benefits(durability and cut) of the fabricated deck and secondly, the benefits(servicable ZT-2800 trannies on the XL versus the sealed EZT trannies on the XL). The base ZT is a very good basic residential ZTR and would indeed give you 5 years(or better if well maintained) of service, but as with anything you get what you pay for and the XL would give longer service, more durability and better quality of cut. Once you begin looking at spending "several" thousands of dollars on a quality ZTR mower you need to save up and get the best you can afford. Just for you to think about......add another $900 to that extra $1300(now your talking $2200 more than the 42" base ZT) and you could find yourself the proud owner of a 44"(smallest deck they have) ZT HD Gravely that is for all intents and purposes "near Commercial" quality. The ZT HD is just below my Pro-Turn XDZ 100 Commercial and I am extremely pleased with it. When you compare apples to apples between all of the leading brands in regard to features and build you will see Gravely shine as the best for your money compared to most others when it comes to build, durability and warranty for the money. If you compare to Hustler, Cub Cadet Zero Force, etc. which are all good machines just make sure the series/models are similar across the different brands and have similar deck construction, trannies, engines etc. Believe me I went through this process last fall and looked at different ZTR's until my head was spinning . There are so many good ones you will need to decide what's most important to you and it may be a difficult decision. We forum members will assist with any information we can to help. Best of luck finding the ZTR that is right for you!!!
P.S.
On Toros(also very good "dealer models"....Timecutters are Home Depot, etc. geared towards the "masses"), you need to find a Toro dealer and look at/compare the Titan ZX or Titan MX series to these others. Those Toros are excellent Residential machines and you can again add those to the comparison mix for pricing, etc.
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Dataz722
Thank you. I actually thought the trannies were the same in both of them. That alone is pretty much worth the difference in case there is ever a problem.
As much as I would love to get the HD, and I did look at it and consider it just for the fact that it can take a plow, I just can't justify that money right now unless I knew for a fact that I would get at least another 5 years of use out of it, and there is no way for anyone to know that for sure. I also don't have to time to save up any more because my tractor just died last weekend and I don't plan on push mowing an acre again. I will give it some more thought though and run the numbers some more, but I just don't think it is in the cards especially since I need to get a bagger too and they want an insane $1000 just for that.
Good to know though that I am on the right track with the Gravely for my budget.
Thank you.
D
Dataz722
Dataz722,
IMHO, yes...the upgrade from the base ZT(regular residential model) to the ZT XL is worth the $1300 diffeence on the 42" model. First, the benefits(durability and cut) of the fabricated deck and secondly, the benefits(servicable ZT-2800 trannies on the XL versus the sealed EZT trannies on the XL). The base ZT is a very good basic residential ZTR and would indeed give you 5 years(or better if well maintained) of service, but as with anything you get what you pay for and the XL would give longer service, more durability and better quality of cut. Once you begin looking at spending "several" thousands of dollars on a quality ZTR mower you need to save up and get the best you can afford. Just for you to think about......add another $900 to that extra $1300(now your talking $2200 more than the 42" base ZT) and you could find yourself the proud owner of a 44"(smallest deck they have) ZT HD Gravely that is for all intents and purposes "near Commercial" quality. The ZT HD is just below my Pro-Turn XDZ 100 Commercial and I am extremely pleased with it. When you compare apples to apples between all of the leading brands in regard to features and build you will see Gravely shine as the best for your money compared to most others when it comes to build, durability and warranty for the money. If you compare to Hustler, Cub Cadet Zero Force, etc. which are all good machines just make sure the series/models are similar across the different brands and have similar deck construction, trannies, engines etc. Believe me I went through this process last fall and looked at different ZTR's until my head was spinning . There are so many good ones you will need to decide what's most important to you and it may be a difficult decision. We forum members will assist with any information we can to help. Best of luck finding the ZTR that is right for you!!!
P.S.
On Toros(also very good "dealer models"....Timecutters are Home Depot, etc. geared towards the "masses"), you need to find a Toro dealer and look at/compare the Titan ZX or Titan MX series to these others. Those Toros are excellent Residential machines and you can again add those to the comparison mix for pricing, etc.
Thank you. I actually thought the trannies were the same in both of them. That alone is pretty much worth the difference in case there is ever a problem.
As much as I would love to get the HD, and I did look at it and consider it just for the fact that it can take a plow, I just can't justify that money right now unless I knew for a fact that I would get at least another 5 years of use out of it, and there is no way for anyone to know that for sure. I also don't have to time to save up any more because my tractor just died last weekend and I don't plan on push mowing an acre again. I will give it some more thought though and run the numbers some more, but I just don't think it is in the cards especially since I need to get a bagger too and they want an insane $1000 just for that.
Good to know though that I am on the right track with the Gravely for my budget.
Thank you.
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Dataz722
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Dataz722
The more I think about it, the more I really need to stay under $3000 if possible, otherwise I will have to just up a couple levels to the HD and have to start finding a couple other yards I can do a week to help pay for it and I would rather not do that since I don't have that much free time.
How does the Raptor compare to the regular Gravely ZT? It seems they both have the same non servicable trans but the Raptor does have a better deck and possibly frame. The Raptor is cheaper too and the bagger is about half the price. Any input between those two?
Also, are there any graden tractors that I should be considering as well for any reason?
How does the Raptor compare to the regular Gravely ZT? It seems they both have the same non servicable trans but the Raptor does have a better deck and possibly frame. The Raptor is cheaper too and the bagger is about half the price. Any input between those two?
Also, are there any graden tractors that I should be considering as well for any reason?
#9
djdicetn
Old Goat,
Can't argue with you about the quality of that Big Dog, but just to clarify the apples-to-apples comparison to a Gravely....The Gravely 52" ZT HD($4,899 MSRP for the 2013....2012 may have been less) is the model that equates to your Big Dog aside from a 2" less width deck and it has "exactly" the same HydroGear ZT-3100 trannies as your Big Dog. That would be the two Big Dog-Gravelys that the OP would need to compare(to see what the $99 difference was, all things considered).
djdicetn
Looked at Gravely too.
After much searching and learning, found out that Hustler was the first ZTR mower in 1966, starting looking hard at them then finally decided on a Big Dog.
Made by the same people Excel Industries and built like a brick you know what. Commercial grade Hydraulic wheel motors heavier than that Gravely.
I paid $4800 + tax for a R754 and can't say enough good about it.
If you are looking for a smaller size, they would be cheaper than what I paid.
You owe it to yourself to check them out. Simple yet strong.
R-Series Zero-Turn Commercial Grade Riding Mowers - Big Dog Mowers
Old Goat,
Can't argue with you about the quality of that Big Dog, but just to clarify the apples-to-apples comparison to a Gravely....The Gravely 52" ZT HD($4,899 MSRP for the 2013....2012 may have been less) is the model that equates to your Big Dog aside from a 2" less width deck and it has "exactly" the same HydroGear ZT-3100 trannies as your Big Dog. That would be the two Big Dog-Gravelys that the OP would need to compare(to see what the $99 difference was, all things considered).
#10
djdicetn
I haven't really researched the Hustler Raptor which is kinda new, but I did make an offer for a 2012 Hustler 54" Fastrak Super Duty, but the Gravely beat it out price, warranties and features.
djdicetn
The more I think about it, the more I really need to stay under $3000 if possible, otherwise I will have to just up a couple levels to the HD and have to start finding a couple other yards I can do a week to help pay for it and I would rather not do that since I don't have that much free time.
How does the Raptor compare to the regular Gravely ZT? It seems they both have the same non servicable trans but the Raptor does have a better deck and possibly frame. The Raptor is cheaper too and the bagger is about half the price. Any input between those two?
Also, are there any graden tractors that I should be considering as well for any reason?
I haven't really researched the Hustler Raptor which is kinda new, but I did make an offer for a 2012 Hustler 54" Fastrak Super Duty, but the Gravely beat it out price, warranties and features.
#11
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JET4
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JET4
I was ready to buy the Hustler Raptor 42 but it was too tight of a fit to go through my gate. I didn't want to go to the trouble of making the gate bigger, so I ended up getting the Gravely ZT34. I did like every thing about the Hustler for the cost of it. If it would of fit through the gate it would be in my garage.
#12
djdicetn
See my response in your "need riding mower advice" subject thread:0)
djdicetn
I was ready to buy the Hustler Raptor 42 but it was too tight of a fit to go through my gate. I didn't want to go to the trouble of making the gate bigger, so I ended up getting the Gravely ZT34. I did like every thing about the Hustler for the cost of it. If it would of fit through the gate it would be in my garage.
See my response in your "need riding mower advice" subject thread:0)
#13
djdicetn
Dataz722,
If you are considering a lawn tractor versus a ZTR and have a $3,000 budget, take a look at the Husqvarna YT48XLS. It has a Kawasaki engine, a hydro tranny with locking differential and a fabricated deck for $2899 which is right down your alley. See link below:
Husqvarna YT48XLS - Garden tractors
djdicetn
The more I think about it, the more I really need to stay under $3000 if possible, otherwise I will have to just up a couple levels to the HD and have to start finding a couple other yards I can do a week to help pay for it and I would rather not do that since I don't have that much free time.
How does the Raptor compare to the regular Gravely ZT? It seems they both have the same non servicable trans but the Raptor does have a better deck and possibly frame. The Raptor is cheaper too and the bagger is about half the price. Any input between those two?
Also, are there any graden tractors that I should be considering as well for any reason?
Dataz722,
If you are considering a lawn tractor versus a ZTR and have a $3,000 budget, take a look at the Husqvarna YT48XLS. It has a Kawasaki engine, a hydro tranny with locking differential and a fabricated deck for $2899 which is right down your alley. See link below:
Husqvarna YT48XLS - Garden tractors
#14
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Dataz722
I have not ruled them out at all. I have seen you and a few others talk very highly of them and have looked into them and even have it on my excel spreadsheet of everything. I guess you could say that it has been shortlisted but at that price though I can't really see why someone would take that over a ZTR. I know some people aren't too confortable with the controls on a ZTR and that they need a tractor if they are dealing with big slopes, but other than that I don't see any advantage. Am I missing something there?
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Dataz722
Dataz722,
If you are considering a lawn tractor versus a ZTR and have a $3,000 budget, take a look at the Husqvarna YT48XLS. It has a Kawasaki engine, a hydro tranny with locking differential and a fabricated deck for $2899 which is right down your alley. See link below:
Husqvarna YT48XLS - Garden tractors
I have not ruled them out at all. I have seen you and a few others talk very highly of them and have looked into them and even have it on my excel spreadsheet of everything. I guess you could say that it has been shortlisted but at that price though I can't really see why someone would take that over a ZTR. I know some people aren't too confortable with the controls on a ZTR and that they need a tractor if they are dealing with big slopes, but other than that I don't see any advantage. Am I missing something there?
#15
Old Goat
Not in my book. Looked at both of them long and hard!
2" less cutting width, 900 FPS less on blade tip speed and overall rinky dink way of doing things, IE separate parking brake handle with cables to acutuate same. Cables wind up breaking eventually. Control handle adjustment, 12" wide rear tires compared to 10" on the Gravely, blade height setting in 1/2" increments instead of 1/4", etc. just to name a few.
I found the Big Dog to the the most robust and well thought out unit I looked at for residential use.
I generally buy things that last a LONG time. Bought my 67 GTO brand new!
Charles
Old Goat
Old Goat,
Can't argue with you about the quality of that Big Dog, but just to clarify the apples-to-apples comparison to a Gravely....The Gravely 52" ZT HD($4,899 MSRP for the 2013....2012 may have been less) is the model that equates to your Big Dog aside from a 2" less width deck and it has "exactly" the same HydroGear ZT-3100 trannies as your Big Dog. That would be the two Big Dog-Gravelys that the OP would need to compare(to see what the $99 difference was, all things considered).
Not in my book. Looked at both of them long and hard!
2" less cutting width, 900 FPS less on blade tip speed and overall rinky dink way of doing things, IE separate parking brake handle with cables to acutuate same. Cables wind up breaking eventually. Control handle adjustment, 12" wide rear tires compared to 10" on the Gravely, blade height setting in 1/2" increments instead of 1/4", etc. just to name a few.
I found the Big Dog to the the most robust and well thought out unit I looked at for residential use.
I generally buy things that last a LONG time. Bought my 67 GTO brand new!
Charles
#16
djdicetn
Old Goat,
Nowwwwww I get your user name!!! Sweeeeet classic car!!!! My brother had a 1969 "Judge", remember those GTO's??? My father-in-law has a 1971 Chevelle SS396 and a 1958 Ford Fairlane(with the pneumatic "hide-a-top" convertible feature) both in mint condition. If you EVER decide to part with that GTO(which being the original owner I would doubt your sanity if you did:0) I'd be glad to give you a fair price for it!!!! Of course, of the "muscle cars" my brother had when I was in high school, Id most like to own that '68 Hemi Cuda(that would have given his Judge or your Goat a run for their money:0)
Now, back to the thread. Problem with user Dataz722 is that his $3,000 budget won't get him in a "quality ZTR" like your Big Dog or my Gravely and I've tried to point out that if all he has is $3K the Husqvarna lawn tractor will give him more durability, problem-free mowing and life-span than "ANY" ZTR he could buy for $3K. IMHO, if you are not able to invest $4k-$6k and get a "quality" ZTR then you are better of with a little less cut quality(the blade tip speed you eluded to) by getting a high-end lawn tractor. A $3k ztr(in a majority of cases) is going to be nothing but problems and expenses about the time it's warranty expires. Of course sometimes you get lucky and many other users may disagree but that is my personal opinion.
djdicetn
Not in my book. Looked at both of them long and hard!
2" less cutting width, 900 FPS less on blade tip speed and overall rinky dink way of doing things, IE separate parking brake handle with cables to acutuate same. Cables wind up breaking eventually. Control handle adjustment, 12" wide rear tires compared to 10" on the Gravely, blade height setting in 1/2" increments instead of 1/4", etc. just to name a few.
I found the Big Dog to the the most robust and well thought out unit I looked at for residential use.
I generally buy things that last a LONG time. Bought my 67 GTO brand new!
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Charles
Old Goat,
Nowwwwww I get your user name!!! Sweeeeet classic car!!!! My brother had a 1969 "Judge", remember those GTO's??? My father-in-law has a 1971 Chevelle SS396 and a 1958 Ford Fairlane(with the pneumatic "hide-a-top" convertible feature) both in mint condition. If you EVER decide to part with that GTO(which being the original owner I would doubt your sanity if you did:0) I'd be glad to give you a fair price for it!!!! Of course, of the "muscle cars" my brother had when I was in high school, Id most like to own that '68 Hemi Cuda(that would have given his Judge or your Goat a run for their money:0)
Now, back to the thread. Problem with user Dataz722 is that his $3,000 budget won't get him in a "quality ZTR" like your Big Dog or my Gravely and I've tried to point out that if all he has is $3K the Husqvarna lawn tractor will give him more durability, problem-free mowing and life-span than "ANY" ZTR he could buy for $3K. IMHO, if you are not able to invest $4k-$6k and get a "quality" ZTR then you are better of with a little less cut quality(the blade tip speed you eluded to) by getting a high-end lawn tractor. A $3k ztr(in a majority of cases) is going to be nothing but problems and expenses about the time it's warranty expires. Of course sometimes you get lucky and many other users may disagree but that is my personal opinion.
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Dataz722
Now that is exactly what I was looking for as far as why one would take that over a ZTR. So it would most likely last longer? I had assumed that it would probably have been about the same as the Raptor. I am still considering springing for the XL and the HD is still in the back of my mind but highly unlikely.
I am most worried about longevity and value for the money, most everything else comes secondary to that.
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Dataz722
$3K the Husqvarna lawn tractor will give him more durability, problem-free mowing and life-span than "ANY" ZTR he could buy for $3K. IMHO, if you are not able to invest $4k-$6k and get a "quality" ZTR then you are better of with a little less cut quality
Now that is exactly what I was looking for as far as why one would take that over a ZTR. So it would most likely last longer? I had assumed that it would probably have been about the same as the Raptor. I am still considering springing for the XL and the HD is still in the back of my mind but highly unlikely.
I am most worried about longevity and value for the money, most everything else comes secondary to that.
#18
djdicetn
Dataz722,
If you are serious about getting a ZTR and can spring $5k the 52" Gravely ZT HD and 54" Big Dog R Series are both worth looking at. The key is like user old goat pointed out, abandon the Internet and go to a dealer and look at them. And for around $5K you will find MANY more very good residential units at other dealers if you have one nearby(Toro Titan, Cub Cadet Z-Force, Hustler Fastrak, Dixie Chopper Zee 2, etc.). It will be time well spent to compare at least 3 to 5 different makes with similar engines(Kawasaki-best; Kohler, except Courage-better, Briggs-good), decks(gauge) and trannies(at least HydroGear ZT-2800, 3100 & 3400 better ones) and then compare the real important differences like warranties(years/hours and on spindles or frames/decks), spindle types(cast iron better than aluminum). Blade tip speed doesn't always = better cut, but it should be at "least" 1500 fpm minimum for good performance. It took me about 2-3 months just to find out(on these forums) what to look for and what "stuff meant". I would recommend you plan on spending at least a month or two to educate yourself and you will be better able to determine what is right for you. Good luck!!!
djdicetn
Now that is exactly what I was looking for as far as why one would take that over a ZTR. So it would most likely last longer? I had assumed that it would probably have been about the same as the Raptor. I am still considering springing for the XL and the HD is still in the back of my mind but highly unlikely.
I am most worried about longevity and value for the money, most everything else comes secondary to that.
Dataz722,
If you are serious about getting a ZTR and can spring $5k the 52" Gravely ZT HD and 54" Big Dog R Series are both worth looking at. The key is like user old goat pointed out, abandon the Internet and go to a dealer and look at them. And for around $5K you will find MANY more very good residential units at other dealers if you have one nearby(Toro Titan, Cub Cadet Z-Force, Hustler Fastrak, Dixie Chopper Zee 2, etc.). It will be time well spent to compare at least 3 to 5 different makes with similar engines(Kawasaki-best; Kohler, except Courage-better, Briggs-good), decks(gauge) and trannies(at least HydroGear ZT-2800, 3100 & 3400 better ones) and then compare the real important differences like warranties(years/hours and on spindles or frames/decks), spindle types(cast iron better than aluminum). Blade tip speed doesn't always = better cut, but it should be at "least" 1500 fpm minimum for good performance. It took me about 2-3 months just to find out(on these forums) what to look for and what "stuff meant". I would recommend you plan on spending at least a month or two to educate yourself and you will be better able to determine what is right for you. Good luck!!!
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Dataz722
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Dataz722
I have been to a Gravely dealer that is right by where I work but all of the other dealers have pretty limited hours and I am not able to get there because of work. The latest any of them close is 5 during the week and have very limited hours on Saturdays. I am going to try to make it to the Hustler dealer this Saturday but I doubt I will make it and unless I were to take a half day at work which wouldn't be able to happen for another couple weeks, I won't be able to go look at the Husqvarna at all.
I was able to look at the Gravelys but not able to test drive it because apparently they only do test drives on Saturdays for some reason.
Normally I am very analytical and very cautious about things like this. Even to the point of driving my wife nuts about how I dig into every detail and read everything I can to make some of even the most mundane decisions. Only problem is that I don't have that kind of time right now and it is killing me to have to decide in a week. I have to make a decision this weekend or early next week at the latest because I can't push mow my acre again.
Thank you for all your help though. You have really shed some light on many different aspects of this for me, not only in here but in other threads too.
I was able to look at the Gravelys but not able to test drive it because apparently they only do test drives on Saturdays for some reason.
Normally I am very analytical and very cautious about things like this. Even to the point of driving my wife nuts about how I dig into every detail and read everything I can to make some of even the most mundane decisions. Only problem is that I don't have that kind of time right now and it is killing me to have to decide in a week. I have to make a decision this weekend or early next week at the latest because I can't push mow my acre again.
Thank you for all your help though. You have really shed some light on many different aspects of this for me, not only in here but in other threads too.
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motoman
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#21
Old Goat
You know, if all you have is an acre with I presume a house on it, the extra cost of a ZTR is probably not cost effective unless you consider mowing time to be very important. Cutting one acre should be no more than 2 hours with a lawn tractor, right?
We have 2.5 acres and the main reason I got rid of the 13 year old lawn tractor for a ZTR mower was because of the time factor.
Cutting time before was 4 1/2 hours and in July and August heat will be down to 1 1/4 hours now with the ZTR. Surprizingly gas consumtion is about the same, maybe a bit less.
Charles
Old Goat
Normally I am very analytical and very cautious about things like this. Even to the point of driving my wife nuts about how I dig into every detail and read everything I can to make some of even the most mundane decisions. Only problem is that I don't have that kind of time right now and it is killing me to have to decide in a week. I have to make a decision this weekend or early next week at the latest because I can't push mow my acre again.
You know, if all you have is an acre with I presume a house on it, the extra cost of a ZTR is probably not cost effective unless you consider mowing time to be very important. Cutting one acre should be no more than 2 hours with a lawn tractor, right?
We have 2.5 acres and the main reason I got rid of the 13 year old lawn tractor for a ZTR mower was because of the time factor.
Cutting time before was 4 1/2 hours and in July and August heat will be down to 1 1/4 hours now with the ZTR. Surprizingly gas consumtion is about the same, maybe a bit less.
Charles
#22
D
Dataz722
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Dataz722
I really have no idea how long it would take with a decent tractor since my craftsman was a piece of junk and I had to go really slow with it. It would take me ~4+ hours with that.
I wasn't originally planning on getting a ZTR but then when I started pricing out decent tractors I realized that you could get a decent ZTR for the same price I thought all things being equal might as well go with the ZTR. I had assumed that cut and build quality would be the same if not better with the ZTR compared to the tractor. Like I said before, I really don't care much between a tractor or ZTR, just which ever is a better value for my money.
I wasn't originally planning on getting a ZTR but then when I started pricing out decent tractors I realized that you could get a decent ZTR for the same price I thought all things being equal might as well go with the ZTR. I had assumed that cut and build quality would be the same if not better with the ZTR compared to the tractor. Like I said before, I really don't care much between a tractor or ZTR, just which ever is a better value for my money.
#23
Old Goat
Doesn't sound like you need as hefty a mower as what I bought. Just out of curiosity, I called my Big Dog dealer for pricing on the C & A series mowers for this Spring.
C series, entry level residential
42" 15 hp Kawasaki=$3349
46" 18 hp Kawasaki=$3699
54" 21.5 hp Kawasaki=$4099
A Series, medium level residential
36" 15 hp Kawasaki=$4499
42" 18 hp Kawasaki=$4699
46" 21.5 hp Kawasaki=$4899
Blade Tip Speeds from 18,100 to 18,600 fpm.
For what you have to do, seems the C series 42 or 46 would be all you would need and then some.
How does that figure with lawn tractors you've been pricing?
Residential and Commercial Zero Turn Radius Lawn Mowers and Tractors - Big Dog Mowers
Old Goat
I really have no idea how long it would take with a decent tractor since my craftsman was a piece of junk and I had to go really slow with it. It would take me ~4+ hours with that.
I wasn't originally planning on getting a ZTR but then when I started pricing out decent tractors I realized that you could get a decent ZTR for the same price I thought all things being equal might as well go with the ZTR. I had assumed that cut and build quality would be the same if not better with the ZTR compared to the tractor. Like I said before, I really don't care much between a tractor or ZTR, just which ever is a better value for my money.
Doesn't sound like you need as hefty a mower as what I bought. Just out of curiosity, I called my Big Dog dealer for pricing on the C & A series mowers for this Spring.
C series, entry level residential
42" 15 hp Kawasaki=$3349
46" 18 hp Kawasaki=$3699
54" 21.5 hp Kawasaki=$4099
A Series, medium level residential
36" 15 hp Kawasaki=$4499
42" 18 hp Kawasaki=$4699
46" 21.5 hp Kawasaki=$4899
Blade Tip Speeds from 18,100 to 18,600 fpm.
For what you have to do, seems the C series 42 or 46 would be all you would need and then some.
How does that figure with lawn tractors you've been pricing?
Residential and Commercial Zero Turn Radius Lawn Mowers and Tractors - Big Dog Mowers
#24
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Dataz722
Thanks. I hadn't looked at them but I guess it wouldn't hurt to compare.
Edit - I just looked and there aren't any dealers around me and not a single one in the state. Buying one in Delaware is somewhat imporant too since we don't have sales tax.
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Dataz722
Doesn't sound like you need as hefty a mower as what I bought. Just out of curiosity, I called my Big Dog dealer for pricing on the C & A series mowers for this Spring.
C series, entry level residential
42" 15 hp Kawasaki=$3349
46" 18 hp Kawasaki=$3699
54" 21.5 hp Kawasaki=$4099
A Series, medium level residential
36" 15 hp Kawasaki=$4499
42" 18 hp Kawasaki=$4699
46" 21.5 hp Kawasaki=$4899
For what you have to do, seems the C series 42 or 46 would be all you would need and then some.
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Residential and Commercial Zero Turn Radius Lawn Mowers and Tractors - Big Dog Mowers
Thanks. I hadn't looked at them but I guess it wouldn't hurt to compare.
Edit - I just looked and there aren't any dealers around me and not a single one in the state. Buying one in Delaware is somewhat imporant too since we don't have sales tax.
#25
Old Goat
Yeah, saw that.
Just talked to Andrew at
LeRoys Inc
1004 Highpoint Rd
Cochranville, PA 19330
610 593 6280
He told me that if you have a valid Delaware Drivers Licence, there would be no sales tax for you.
Wish I would have known that earlier, I have a good friend that lives in New Castle!
We been looking for a reason to get together!
Charles
Old Goat
Thanks. I hadn't looked at them but I guess it wouldn't hurt to compare.
Edit - I just looked and there aren't any dealers around me and not a single one in the state. Buying one in Delaware is somewhat imporant too since we don't have sales tax.
Yeah, saw that.
Just talked to Andrew at
LeRoys Inc
1004 Highpoint Rd
Cochranville, PA 19330
610 593 6280
He told me that if you have a valid Delaware Drivers Licence, there would be no sales tax for you.
Wish I would have known that earlier, I have a good friend that lives in New Castle!
We been looking for a reason to get together!
Charles
#26
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Dataz722
Oh wow! Thank you. I wouldn't have even thought they would be able to do that. I had thought cars were the only exception to sales tax. I really can't believe that you would have called them for me. I really greatly appreciate that.
I am about 10-15 minutes from New Castle at my new house and the old one was the next town over from it. Small world.
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Dataz722
Yeah, saw that.
Just talked to Andrew at
LeRoys Inc
1004 Highpoint Rd
Cochranville, PA 19330
610 593 6280
He told me that if you have a valid Delaware Drivers Licence, there would be no sales tax for you.
Wish I would have known that earlier, I have a good friend that lives in New Castle!
We been looking for a reason to get together!
Charles
Oh wow! Thank you. I wouldn't have even thought they would be able to do that. I had thought cars were the only exception to sales tax. I really can't believe that you would have called them for me. I really greatly appreciate that.
I am about 10-15 minutes from New Castle at my new house and the old one was the next town over from it. Small world.
#27
Old Goat
Old Goat
Andrew said they do that with motorcycles all the time also.
PS By the way, my buds name is Gary Carr, he's nuts. He has a 66 GTO also. Now you know we are both nuts.
PS By the way, my buds name is Gary Carr, he's nuts. He has a 66 GTO also. Now you know we are both nuts.
#28
djdicetn
Old Goat,
Love that avatar!!!!! Did you do that for "slow learners" like me:0) It makes it pretty clear why you chose your username!!! I'm still coveting in my mind, that picture of your Goat(I thought maybe you raised goats for milk/bbq:0)
I became infatuated with British Sports Cars and I bought a brand new 1972 MG Midget off the showroom for $1,700(yep, no typo....less than $2K brand new as you well know). I owned 5 more over my lifetime(last one was a '67 that had the metal dash and positive earth). They just don't make "real sports cars" like that anymore either. The recent "re-introduction" of Camaros, Chargers, Challengers, etc. is a JOKE....they ain't muscle cars by any stretching of the imagination:0)
djdicetn
Andrew said they do that with motorcycles all the time also.
PS By the way, my buds name is Gary Carr, he's nuts. He has a 66 GTO also. Now you know we are both nuts.
Old Goat,
Love that avatar!!!!! Did you do that for "slow learners" like me:0) It makes it pretty clear why you chose your username!!! I'm still coveting in my mind, that picture of your Goat(I thought maybe you raised goats for milk/bbq:0)
I became infatuated with British Sports Cars and I bought a brand new 1972 MG Midget off the showroom for $1,700(yep, no typo....less than $2K brand new as you well know). I owned 5 more over my lifetime(last one was a '67 that had the metal dash and positive earth). They just don't make "real sports cars" like that anymore either. The recent "re-introduction" of Camaros, Chargers, Challengers, etc. is a JOKE....they ain't muscle cars by any stretching of the imagination:0)
#29
Old Goat
OK, at the risk of hijacking the thread,
Wild About Cars - News Article
Old Goat
Old Goat,
Love that avatar!!!!! Did you do that for "slow learners" like me:0) It makes it pretty clear why you chose your username!!! I'm still coveting in my mind, that picture of your Goat(I thought maybe you raised goats for milk/bbq:0)
I became infatuated with British Sports Cars and I bought a brand new 1972 MG Midget off the showroom for $1,700(yep, no typo....less than $2K brand new as you well know). I owned 5 more over my lifetime(last one was a '67 that had the metal dash and positive earth). They just don't make "real sports cars" like that anymore either. The recent "re-introduction" of Camaros, Chargers, Challengers, etc. is a JOKE....they ain't muscle cars by any stretching of the imagination:0)
OK, at the risk of hijacking the thread,
Wild About Cars - News Article
#30
djdicetn
Old Goat,
Well, that certainly answers any quetion regarding the potential that you would actually consider selling that GTO......NOT gonna happen, right????
djdicetn
Old Goat,
Well, that certainly answers any quetion regarding the potential that you would actually consider selling that GTO......NOT gonna happen, right????
#31
Old Goat
Old Goat
Bunch of folks have tried. Checkbook is never big enough!