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Need advice. 3 flat acres. 5k mower

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Mike126

I am purchasing a house with 3 acres that are relatively flat with limited obstructions. I have a budget of around 5k and am looking to get the most for my cash. I am looking for advice on deck size, brand and model. There are a bunch of dealers close so servicing and warranty for most brands is not an issue.


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Shughes717

I am purchasing a house with 3 acres that are relatively flat with limited obstructions. I have a budget of around 5k and am looking to get the most for my cash. I am looking for advice on deck size, brand and model. There are a bunch of dealers close so servicing and warranty for most brands is not an issue.

If you want a commercial quality mower in the $5k range you can get a 52" husqvarna mzt or a snapper pro s125xt. Both offer commercial fs series Kawasaki engine, commercial zt3400 hydros, and commercial welded decks. I mow a little over 4 acres with a 48" commercial mower. I have numerous obstacles. Such as trees, slopes, a shop, above ground pool and deck, and my kids outdoor play sets. Takes me a little over two hours.

I don't know what brands are available in your area, but you can put some money down and finance some other model mowers for 48 months at 0% interest.


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Ric

Ric

I am purchasing a house with 3 acres that are relatively flat with limited obstructions. I have a budget of around 5k and am looking to get the most for my cash. I am looking for advice on deck size, brand and model. There are a bunch of dealers close so servicing and warranty for most brands is not an issue.

The first thing I would ask is what type of mower are you looking to buy and with 3 acres I'm going to assume your wanting a Residential or Commercial ZTR. Toro makes or has some High end Residential and low end Commercial units that would be in that price range that would do the job along with Hustler and Scag and Exmark, those are the brands I'd look to for a quality mower. As far as deck size goes I wouldn't go any less than a 48" and depending on how much time you want to spend mowing you can increase that up to as much as a 60" cut and I'd make sure what ever size you buy that you make sure you get at least an 18000 BTS (blade tip speed) I also wouldn't go any less than the 2800 drive units.
I'd also advise you to go with the Kawasaki engine, that would be my first choice, second choice would be the Kohler engine. The thing I look at and ask about when buying a mower is warranty and as far as I know Toro has the best warranty going. 3 or 4 yr with 4 or 500hr some w/ unlimited hours on there residential mowers and a 5yr 1200 hr on there Commercial mowers, Hard to beat.


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KrashnKraka

KrashnKraka

I am purchasing a house with 3 acres that are relatively flat with limited obstructions. I have a budget of around 5k and am looking to get the most for my cash. I am looking for advice on deck size, brand and model. There are a bunch of dealers close so servicing and warranty for most brands is not an issue.

Welcome to LMF Mike, lets see what arises from your first post
on a very very old topic?
LMF carries a substantial search engine which is reasonably
intuitive... the link is at the extents of top right for the page.

Yeh, I hear you... reading 'old' info is not near as exciting as that
fresh new cut of the fast growing thread, hey?
Yet sometimes you can really dredge up some very relevant info.
Yer get lucky this time around as I put up this link I fell across
which may get you using the SE tool in searching "acre deck size" +
6 months + posts - children,,, as preferences.
No quote apostrophi ;)


http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/mower...ing-mower-nebraska-post209872.html#post209872

Trust that fetches you some more fat trout :cool:

KK
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[42" @ 18K fpm fairly chews them acres, spittin' grass 25' wide - say no more]


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Rivets

As Ric says Toro makes some good mowers which would serve you well. I would also tell you to take a look at the Kubota Kommander line, if you have a dealer near you. They have been well received since their arrival three years ago.


#6

Retiredcarguy

Retiredcarguy

Mike,

Cutting 3 acres regularly can still be a real and regular chore. Depending on your work schedule.

Do you want this machine to do any other property service: haul firewood, plow or blow snow, etc.? Is it only to cut?

I would also look for at larger, used machines, etc. for consideration of your budget. Some of the initial depreciation is then gone.


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SeniorCitizen

LMF carries a substantial search engine which is reasonably
intuitive... the link is at the extents of top right for the page.

Top right for what page? I'm not from MO but please show me.


#8

KrashnKraka

KrashnKraka

Top right for what page? I'm not from MO but please show me.


http://s7.postimg.org/wtw28hjor/rps20150720_222112_768.jpg

...you will likely see why I specifically wrote "extents".

"MO" is a whoosher (over the top) for me, I carnt do Boston Orish humour, like ;-)

KK


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SeniorCitizen

http://s7.postimg.org/wtw28hjor/rps20150720_222112_768.jpg

...you will likely see why I specifically wrote "extents".

"MO" is a whoosher (over the top) for me, I carnt do Boston Orish humour, like ;-)

KK

We are not only not on the same page we aren't even reading from the same book. Thanks for your time anyway.


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SeniorCitizen

If I had to mow 3 acres regularly it would be something with a 72" mower that would pull four 24" push mowers using a home designed hitch for a total of 168" minus over lap.


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Shughes717

If I had to mow 3 acres regularly it would be something with a 72" mower that would pull four 24" push mowers using a home designed hitch for a total of 168" minus over lap.

You would definitely get done quick. The problem is, how can the op get all of that on a $5k budget?:laughing:


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SeniorCitizen

You would definitely get done quick. The problem is, how can the op get all of that on a $5k budget?:laughing:
QUOTE: I'm purchasing.
********************************************************************
This is just one of the items he needs to consider when purchasing. If he can't afford to maintain the property he buys he will have joined the millions of others with property that goes down hill soon after signing on the dotted line.


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Shughes717

QUOTE: I'm purchasing.
********************************************************************
This is just one of the items he needs to consider when purchasing. If he can't afford to maintain the property he buys he will have joined the millions of others with property that goes down hill soon after signing on the dotted line.

I don't know about that one SeniorCitizen. I mow over 4 acres with a 48" ztr and my property is one of the best looking lawns in the neighborhood. The op can get a mower to suit his needs for $5k.


#14

Ric

Ric

Mike,

Cutting 3 acres regularly can still be a real and regular chore. Depending on your work schedule.

Do you want this machine to do any other property service: haul firewood, plow or blow snow, etc.? Is it only to cut?

I would also look for at larger, used machines, etc. for consideration of your budget. Some of the initial depreciation is then gone.

That's a good way to go. For 5k he could get a good low hour commercial mower and someone else gets hit with the initial depreciation. :thumbsup:


#15

Ric

Ric

If I had to mow 3 acres regularly it would be something with a 72" mower that would pull four 24" push mowers using a home designed hitch for a total of 168" minus over lap.

He say he is purchasing a house with 3 acres so he probably doesn't have a full 3 acres to mow if you consider the square footage of the home, driveway and everything else on the property. A 72" mower would be a little over kill say nothing about not being cost effective. Personally I'd go after it with a 48 or 52" and enjoy the days mowing, after all he isn't on the clock.


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Mad Mackie

I see a lot of 61" and some 72" mowers for sale and I think that they are more difficult to sell because of their size. Almost every ZTR that I've read the specs for had a 250 LB tow limit.
My Tiger Cub is 48" plus a collection blower, my Hustler X-ONE is 60" rear discharge and used primarily in a cemetery. I have considered a 52" Tiger Cat, but just bought a new 7' X 16' cargo trailer so my mad money budget is empty again!!! My "financial manager", you know who I'm referring to, refuses to do time payments for another machine and says that you'll be 76 by the time it is paid for and where will you be in four years!!!!!! Still kicking I hope!!!! HaHa!!!!


#17

Ric

Ric

I see a lot of 61" and some 72" mowers for sale and I think that they are more difficult to sell because of their size. Almost every ZTR that I've read the specs for had a 250 LB tow limit.
My Tiger Cub is 48" plus a collection blower, my Hustler X-ONE is 60" rear discharge and used primarily in a cemetery. I have considered a 52" Tiger Cat, but just bought a new 7' X 16' cargo trailer so my mad money budget is empty again!!! My "financial manager", you know who I'm referring to, refuses to do time payments for another machine and says that you'll be 76 by the time it is paid for and where will you be in four years!!!!!! Still kicking I hope!!!! HaHa!!!!


:laughing: Boy does that sound familiar, Dang Bosses anyway.


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Mad Mackie

Hi Ric,
I'm a retired Army Sgt 1st Class and I call my bride "the Colonel"!!! She didn't like it at first, but she is OK with it now and always "pulls" rank on me!!
48 years together and still rolling!!! I still like nice toys and get to sneak one in now and then, forgiveness is always easier than permission!!!! HaHa!!!!:laughing:


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KrashnKraka

KrashnKraka

QUOTE: I'm purchasing.
********************************************************************
This is just one of the items he needs to consider when purchasing. If he can't afford to maintain the property he buys he will have joined the millions of others with property that goes down hill soon after signing on the dotted line.

Concur.
Same goes for buying into acreage with no water rights, or worse - no aquifer.

On the matter of your read?
I can only empathise, we (squeeze & I) are 'registered' volunteer carers.
With what we see quite regularly we only hope an' pray that by the time
we reach SC status this Country will have come to it's senses and legalised
complicit euthanasia.
No doubt you have moments of astonishing clarity.
I'll watch for that and help you where I can.

Go well, oldtimer ;-}

KK


#20

Ric

Ric

Hi Ric,
I'm a retired Army Sgt 1st Class and I call my bride "the Colonel"!!! She didn't like it at first, but she is OK with it now and always "pulls" rank on me!!
48 years together and still rolling!!! I still like nice toys and get to sneak one in now and then, forgiveness is always easier than permission!!!! HaHa!!!!:laughing:

Me and the wife had been together for 42 years and I know about the forgiveness is always easier than permission thing :smile: I got the the Z Master by here because of the No interest thing but I'll wait a while before the next one.


#21

KrashnKraka

KrashnKraka

I am purchasing a house with 3 acres that are relatively flat with limited obstructions. I have a budget of around 5k and am looking to get the most for my cash. I am looking for advice on deck size, brand and model. There are a bunch of dealers close so servicing and warranty for most brands is not an issue.

It's come time for me to ignore this thread as it dissolves into yet another
homemoaner "don't tell ME I ride the wrong mower or kinnit drive the right mower".
The arguments are are dime a dozen on LMF and other sites, if you follow my
first advice and Search.

So, FWIW & FYI.
Note my profile reads 42" ZTR?
Over maybe 15yrs, various acreages up to 6acres of varying country in
slopes and herbage - all Aussie native grass and weeds, I have settled on
one fact.

Most had maybe 1/4acre of "manicured" lawn.
Of ZTR use the results have varied in terms of fuel consumption, strength
of cut and maintainance schedules/cost.
For close lawn and gardens you wont go past a reliable "weedwhacker"
Oleo-Mac - Product catalogue - SPARTA 37 S
....and a"throwaway" 20" gas mower - cheap as you can buy, and never
bother putting a spanner on it, service only.
For the rest a 42" ZTR (2 blades) is more mower than required. Fact.

Brands?
That is an ever evolving variable. I have bought and burnt Dixon and
Toro with Hustler being the current ride. In the price range - capital
invested in grass, remember? - there would need to be serious flaws in
Excel products to buy anything else.

Whatever,,, I doubt one post, any one "opinion" is going to concrete your choice.
You need to ride your $5K to discover for yourself, and believe many cannot
and so spend $10K.
5 acres? 42" ZTR is plenty of an investment. Fact.


Trust that helps some.




KK


/out


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Mike126

thanks for the advice. I appreciate it!


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Mike126

If you want a commercial quality mower in the $5k range you can get a 52" husqvarna mzt or a snapper pro s125xt. Both offer commercial fs series Kawasaki engine, commercial zt3400 hydros, and commercial welded decks. I mow a little over 4 acres with a 48" commercial mower. I have numerous obstacles. Such as trees, slopes, a shop, above ground pool and deck, and my kids outdoor play sets. Takes me a little over two hours.

I don't know what brands are available in your area, but you can put some money down and finance some other model mowers for 48 months at 0% interest.

As Ric says Toro makes some good mowers which would serve you well. I would also tell you to take a look at the Kubota Kommander line, if you have a dealer near you. They have been well received since their arrival three years ago.

Awesome. Thanks for the input


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Mike126

Mike,

Cutting 3 acres regularly can still be a real and regular chore. Depending on your work schedule.

Do you want this machine to do any other property service: haul firewood, plow or blow snow, etc.? Is it only to cut?

I would also look for at larger, used machines, etc. for consideration of your budget. Some of the initial depreciation is then gone.

Thank you for the input. I have the time to devote to the task.

I am looking for just a mower. A snow plow would be nice but not a necessity.

I will check out the used market. With the feedback I recieved so far I think I have a good starting point


#25

Homer1

Homer1

SO, I was just in your boat, but I am not quite mowing as much as you, however I will eventually need to mow around 3 acres per week when we build the house we are planning to build sometime in the next few years.

I chose to stick to a 46 - 54" deck size, mainly because I have some trees to go around with other obstacles like driveway and curbs that I need to squeeze into, and the larger decks would make this harder. Plus my trailer is a 5x8 so anything over 60" wasn't going to fit on it.

After lots of research and some past experience, I narrowed down to the Toro line for under 5k. They offer what most would call a heavy residential model, the MX5050- 50" fab mower with a kohler 7000 engine. It comes with a 3 year warranty and the 2800 hydro drives, which is just about commercial grade but not quite, but it's only 4000 + tax. I was heavily considering ordering this mower online and having it delivered with no tax and free shipping, but I decided to reach a little deeper and get a more commercial unit. Exmark will offer their Quest line, very similar to the Toro, same company.

I ended up going with a Scag Freedom Z Pro which at a good deal is about 6000 out the door, the standard Freedom Z (5500.00 or so) is a direct competitor to the MX5050 Toro as far as build, however I'd rate the Scag at slightly better quail and the deck is fantastic, at least for me.

Some of my other runner up choices include:

Husqvarna also makes some good models like the MZ52LE (52") which is about 4200 retail, and has things like a foot operated deck lift (something I wanted) and a low profile stance. It also has the 3100 drives which are considered commercial quality. I have a few family members with similar Husqvarna mowers and they say they have had little to no issues with them.

Dixie Chopper also offers the Zee 2 line, which we see a lot down here commercially. It's comparable to the Toro in it's drives and engines, runs around 4300 + tax. They look a little boxy to me, but alot of people who own them praise them. The company was just acquired by a new company but remains under the DC name.

There is also Ariens, or Gravely, which sell their MaxZoom or ZT series mowers. The Ariens MaxZoom appears to be similar to that of the Gravely ZT HD, with the fab deck, 3100 drives, and good engine choices. The deck is warrantied for 5 years, and 3 on the mower overall. These units are very popular here in KY with homeowners and landowners. They get a 50/50 on either you love them or hate them, but most people I know ride a gravely. At just 4800.00 the Ariens Unit, probably one of the Gravely HD's also, deserve a test drive.

Hustler offers some price point mowers, but I wouldn't have gone with anything under the FasTrack, and the deck gets a lot of complaints on shoddy cutting, so I just bounced them from my list without even a test ride.

Anything with a Briggs and Stratton engine will tend to be a little cheaper, but I chose the Briggs engine and don't notice any issues with it's performance on my mower. No bogging or etc. Everything I own has a Briggs engine, so I don't worry that much about it just for weekly mowing.

My main concerns were, I wanted a foot operated deck lift and reset system, somewhat comfy seat, 3 year or better warranty, fabricated deck, good engine, close to a 50" cut, and a GOOD DEALER!

I was able to find that with the Scag. Gravely and Ariens also offer these options for about the same price.

Hope that helps some.


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Mike126

Thanks for the info. I hadn't given Scag much consideration but I found a dealer close by so I will check it out. I am leaning toward a ferris I700 with the briggs and Stratton engine. Seems to be a good mower. I also looked at a Kubota commander 2125S which has good value at $5700 but the seat is terrible, at the same time I priced an exmark Lazer Z Pioneer 52" which was 6k plus tax, I'm thinking for 300 more the ferris is a better deal?!

I have been looing at them online also and there are some great deals but the shipping is a killer. I will keep you posted on my final decision.


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Shughes717

Thanks for the info. I hadn't given Scag much consideration but I found a dealer close by so I will check it out. I am leaning toward a ferris I700 with the briggs and Stratton engine. Seems to be a good mower. I also looked at a Kubota commander 2125S which has good value at $5700 but the seat is terrible, at the same time I priced an exmark Lazer Z Pioneer 52" which was 6k plus tax, I'm thinking for 300 more the ferris is a better deal?!

I have been looing at them online also and there are some great deals but the shipping is a killer. I will keep you posted on my final decision.

You are doing the right thing by researching every brand available to you. The is700 is a well built commercial mower, but the suspension offered on it is nowhere near as smooth as the suspension offered on the is2100 and up. A commercial mower with a suspension seat will offer a ride comparable to the is700. If you like the features on the is700 and want to Look at a better priced mower, then you may want to check into the snapper pro ls125xt.

Ferris and snapper pro are both owned by Briggs & Stratton and are almost identical in design. The only difference is ferris Has the independant suspension, and snapper pro doesn't. Snapper pro mowers are priced lower than ferris as a result. Husqvarna mzt is another reasonably priced commercial mower that may be worth looking at. Keep looking at every brand available in your price range and go with the mower you like best. Every mower you have mentioned is a quality product.


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