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MZT 52 or Hustler SD54
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newbie to the forum, first post but been a searcher and reader for awhile. need advise, I find myself in sort of the need for a new mower, really more want than need I guess, my 99 Scotts 42'' 16hp is still working fine but my yard was being cut for the last 5 years or so by a landscaper because my job and hobbies kept me busy. Things have slowed down now and my landscaper has relocated so I pulled out the old Scotts which I have kept in good working order in case something came up and the landscaper couldn't do the job. He was also cutting my neighbors yard too. So my neighbor needs someone to do his yard as well. So I figured if I cut his yard and pickup the 80.00 bucks he is willing to pay a month (two cuts)I could use it to pay on a new zero turn. The landscaper used a scag and it was fast and did a good job. I want the best bang for the buck but also best for my needs, only mowing about 1.5 acres including the neighbors. So ive been searching and researching every brand of zero turn, started in the 4k range till I read the 14 pages of reviews on the husky MZT52 so bumped it mid 5k. I want top quality and the best in high end residential, low end commercial I can get for the price range listed. So far I've narrowed it down to the MTZ52 for 5518.00 otd, or a Hustler SD54 for 3812.otd.(both coming from local dealers) I really like the huskys better transmission's (3400), cast iron spindles ,rops and FS kawie, over the zt2800 and FR kawie, alum spindles, no rop in the SD, but do I need the upgrades? open to any opinions on these two machines or suggestions of other brands as long as they fall within the price range no higher than the husky, sorry for the long wind. thanks Dave
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I have a 7 year old Husqvarna RZ5424 and it is like brand new. Change the oil like you are supposed to and all will be good. The only problems I have had are of my own making. Replaced spindle because I got something wrapped around it and I did not remove it for over a year.
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Can't speak for husky as I did not have them on my list to compare. No local dealer. I did demo hustler and it was not for me. It is for other though. Just not me. As both are from nearby dealers and assuming you trust their service and track record, I would go with the better specs. Fits your desire for upper end residential/ lower end commercial. If you feel you have the budget, you kind of answers your question when you said you "liked the husky" better. Since mowers at a certain level become very similar, your personal preference counts....for me it was exmark pioneer s in the 6500 range. Spent a little more because it felt right for me and had the higher end features I wanted. For the difference, I would pick husky. Do again say...dealer reputation big factor and demo all you are considering. Good luck.newbie to the forum, first post but been a searcher and reader for awhile. need advise, I find myself in sort of the need for a new mower, really more want than need I guess, my 99 Scotts 42'' 16hp is still working fine but my yard was being cut for the last 5 years or so by a landscaper because my job and hobbies kept me busy. Things have slowed down now and my landscaper has relocated so I pulled out the old Scotts which I have kept in good working order in case something came up and the landscaper couldn't do the job. He was also cutting my neighbors yard too. So my neighbor needs someone to do his yard as well. So I figured if I cut his yard and pickup the 80.00 bucks he is willing to pay a month (two cuts)I could use it to pay on a new zero turn. The landscaper used a scag and it was fast and did a good job. I want the best bang for the buck but also best for my needs, only mowing about 1.5 acres including the neighbors. So ive been searching and researching every brand of zero turn, started in the 4k range till I read the 14 pages of reviews on the husky MZT52 so bumped it mid 5k. I want top quality and the best in high end residential, low end commercial I can get for the price range listed. So far I've narrowed it down to the MTZ52 for 5518.00 otd, or a Hustler SD54 for 3812.otd.(both coming from local dealers) I really like the huskys better transmission's (3400), cast iron spindles ,rops and FS kawie, over the zt2800 and FR kawie, alum spindles, no rop in the SD, but do I need the upgrades? open to any opinions on these two machines or suggestions of other brands as long as they fall within the price range no higher than the husky, sorry for the long wind. thanks Dave
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Thank you both for your replys, many read my post but I'm sure this same newbie question has been asked countless times before. I'm still researching which will work better for me, I have a local ex mark dealer so I will check out the pioneer but they are proud of them and not much for great deals. ThanksCan't speak for husky as I did not have them on my list to compare. No local dealer. I did demo hustler and it was not for me. It is for other though. Just not me. As both are from nearby dealers and assuming you trust their service and track record, I would go with the better specs. Fits your desire for upper end residential/ lower end commercial. If you feel you have the budget, you kind of answers your question when you said you "liked the husky" better. Since mowers at a certain level become very similar, your personal preference counts....for me it was exmark pioneer s in the 6500 range. Spent a little more because it felt right for me and had the higher end features I wanted. For the difference, I would pick husky. Do again say...dealer reputation big factor and demo all you are considering. Good luck.
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If you don't mind spending the extra money then the husqvarna is the better of the two machines. It will mow faster, and leave a great cut. Unless you are looking at mowing 5 plus acres though, the hustler raptor sd would probably be plenty of mower for you. Without knowing what you are mowing, such as acreage and terrain it is hard to give advice beyond what I just mentioned. If I were deciding between the two to mow my 4.2 acres I would go with the husqvarna.
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Thank you both for your replys, many read my post but I'm sure this same newbie question has been asked countless times before. I'm still researching which will work better for me, I have a local ex mark dealer so I will check out the pioneer but they are proud of them and not much for great deals. Thanks
If you don't mind spending the extra money then the husqvarna is the better of the two machines. It will mow faster, and leave a great cut. Unless you are looking at mowing 5 plus acres though, the hustler raptor sd would probably be plenty of mower for you. Without knowing what you are mowing, such as acreage and terrain it is hard to give advice beyond what I just mentioned. If I were deciding between the two to mow my 4.2 acres I would go with the husqvarna.
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Only cutting about 1.5 acres but that could change, also only looking to buy a mower once. Leaning toward the mtz52 because of its heavier duty components but your right it's overkill I'm sureIf you don't mind spending the extra money then the husqvarna is the better of the two machines. It will mow faster, and leave a great cut. Unless you are looking at mowing 5 plus acres though, the hustler raptor sd would probably be plenty of mower for you. Without knowing what you are mowing, such as acreage and terrain it is hard to give advice beyond what I just mentioned. If I were deciding between the two to mow my 4.2 acres I would go with the husqvarna.
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It definitely is overkill, but it can't say anything about someone else buying more mower than they have lawn. I purchased mine two years ago, a s150xt 48" for $5300, and only had an acre to mow. Sold my place this year and purchased another and I now have 4.2 acres. My wife complained when I was deciding between the 48" and 52" model that both were too big for our lawn. I am happy with the mower I have now, but the bigger deck, fuel capacity, wheels, and engine would be nice today. Could have gotten all that for a few hundred more, but my wife drew the line at the 48" mower. :laughing:
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Only cutting about 1.5 acres but that could change, also only looking to buy a mower once. Leaning toward the mtz52 because of its heavier duty components but your right it's overkill I'm sure
It definitely is overkill, but it can't say anything about someone else buying more mower than they have lawn. I purchased mine two years ago, a s150xt 48" for $5300, and only had an acre to mow. Sold my place this year and purchased another and I now have 4.2 acres. My wife complained when I was deciding between the 48" and 52" model that both were too big for our lawn. I am happy with the mower I have now, but the bigger deck, fuel capacity, wheels, and engine would be nice today. Could have gotten all that for a few hundred more, but my wife drew the line at the 48" mower. :laughing:
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It definitely is overkill, but it can't say anything about someone else buying more mower than they have lawn. I purchased mine two years ago, a s150xt 48" for $5300, and only had an acre to mow. Sold my place this year and purchased another and I now have 4.2 acres. My wife complained when I was deciding between the 48" and 52" model that both were too big for our lawn. I am happy with the mower I have now, but the bigger deck, fuel capacity, wheels, and engine would be nice today. Could have gotten all that for a few hundred more, but my wife drew the line at the 48" mower. :laughing:[/] I could save 900.00 by buying the mz52 but give up 34's for 31's and the FS commercial grade for the home grade fr and a bunch of other goodies. One thing I failed to say is I'm a big guy, and the mzt says it has a 200 lb clutch and all the models under it only have 90 lb rated clutches, I haven't heard anyone talk about this and would love some input about this.
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It definitely is overkill, but it can't say anything about someone else buying more mower than they have lawn. I purchased mine two years ago, a s150xt 48" for $5300, and only had an acre to mow. Sold my place this year and purchased another and I now have 4.2 acres. My wife complained when I was deciding between the 48" and 52" model that both were too big for our lawn. I am happy with the mower I have now, but the bigger deck, fuel capacity, wheels, and engine would be nice today. Could have gotten all that for a few hundred more, but my wife drew the line at the 48" mower. :laughing:[/] I could save 900.00 by buying the mz52 but give up 34's for 31's and the FS commercial grade for the home grade fr and a bunch of other goodies. One thing I failed to say is I'm a big guy, and the mzt says it has a 200 lb clutch and all the models under it only have 90 lb rated clutches, I haven't heard anyone talk about this and would love some input about this.
With hydrostatic motors torque is what you want to look at. The zt3100 will produce up to 370ft lbs of intermittent torque and 200 ft lbs of continuous torque. That should be plenty to handle even a big guy. It is all up to how much you are willing to spend. These mowers are all built well, however, if you go with the mz series you go from a heavy duty fabricated deck to a lighter stamped deck. The stamped deck does have a 10 year warranty. You are only mowing 1.5 acres, so any of them should serve you well for a long time. The mzt is the best of the three you are considering.
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Thanks, we'll today I expanded my horizons I did some calling around and found several dealers willing to deal. Scag 48 freedomsz ex mark pioneer e, hustler fast track, and several other brands all these could be bought for 5 k each, so the mtz52 still looks like a great machine but compared to these others is it still top dog? To complicate things a little more a friend has a 09 Troy built xp50 kohler 25,hp says its nice and only could use some new back tires and battery. he said he would sell me for 1250.00 which wasn't even on the radar but I'm sure it would do for my needs at least for now. He now pays someone to mow cause his back gives him problems cutting.With hydrostatic motors torque is what you want to look at. The zt3100 will produce up to 370ft lbs of intermittent torque and 200 ft lbs of continuous torque. That should be plenty to handle even a big guy. It is all up to how much you are willing to spend. These mowers are all built well, however, if you go with the mz series you go from a heavy duty fabricated deck to a lighter stamped deck. The stamped deck does have a 10 year warranty. You are only mowing 1.5 acres, so any of them should serve you well for a long time. The mzt is the best of the three you are considering.
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Thanks, we'll today I expanded my horizons I did some calling around and found several dealers willing to deal. Scag 48 freedomsz ex mark pioneer e, hustler fast track, and several other brands all these could be bought for 5 k each, so the mtz52 still looks like a great machine but compared to these others is it still top dog? To complicate things a little more a friend has a 09 Troy built xp50 kohler 25,hp says its nice and only could use some new back tires and battery. he said he would sell me for 1250.00 which wasn't even on the radar but I'm sure it would do for my needs at least for now. He now pays someone to mow cause his back gives him problems cutting.
All are fine mowers and should suit you well. Demo all of them and go with the one you like best. Everyone on here will give you a reason why the one they purchased is the best. Once you get into the 5k range of mowers you will get a quality machine no matter which one you go with. I would see if your friend will allow you to use his mower on your property before you think of purchasing.
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well the troy built turned out to be a real POS, only had 107 hours but looked like it had 1000, tires shot, front and rear, didn't have the kohler 25, had a briggs 22 intek, it did run good once we got it started after sitting for two years, but the left transmission was out of sync and grinded. So I passed on it, called my Husqvarna dealer and offered him 5k for a new mzt 52 and he said ok so going there tomorrow to check it out in person.
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The mzt is a fine choice. Post some pictures and let us know how the first run goes.:thumbsup:
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well the troy built turned out to be a real POS, only had 107 hours but looked like it had 1000, tires shot, front and rear, didn't have the kohler 25, had a briggs 22 intek, it did run good once we got it started after sitting for two years, but the left transmission was out of sync and grinded. So I passed on it, called my Husqvarna dealer and offered him 5k for a new mzt 52 and he said ok so going there tomorrow to check it out in person.
The mzt is a fine choice. Post some pictures and let us know how the first run goes.:thumbsup:
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Back to the original two...it's not a fair comparison. Really you should be looking at the Fastrak. Much more mower than the RSD. The RSD will be plenty for your needs...but more is always better!
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I'm in the same boat. I've kind of narrowed it down to Cub Cadet Z-Force 48 LZ Commercial, Hustler FasTrak or comparable Big Dog.
Then someone said, look into the Husky's.. I did.. Now I'm reconsidering the Husky.
The reasons are,
They have a bit bigger/better tranny.
The engine option is a FS Kawaski or a B&S endurance
The deck size is just about right. 48 seemed a bit small, 60 was too big.. 54 was just 6 inches shy of 60.. 52 seems to be a sweet spot.
NICE taller tires
Price is good.
Then someone said, look into the Husky's.. I did.. Now I'm reconsidering the Husky.
The reasons are,
They have a bit bigger/better tranny.
The engine option is a FS Kawaski or a B&S endurance
The deck size is just about right. 48 seemed a bit small, 60 was too big.. 54 was just 6 inches shy of 60.. 52 seems to be a sweet spot.
NICE taller tires
Price is good.
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Dave1954
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Just bought the Husqvarna MZT 52, with the FS Kawasaki motor, got a great deal from Lanier outdoor equipment in Buford ga. 5k brand new uncrated, and ready to go. These guys are on ebay just like SLE and sell tons of mowers, they had crates and crates of new huskys, cub cadet, Ferris and others in stock. I will post pics soon. I did look at a fastrack and could have bought it for close to the same, quote was 5300.00 but when you start comparing the two machines then you see the hustler was lacking, 3100 trannys, aluminum spindles, FR kawi motor, 20'' rear tires compared to the MTZ with, 3400 trannies, cast iron spindles and the FC motor and 23'' rear tires. when it comes to the zero turns in the 6k retail range, my research found its more about the running gear, cause the rest of the mowers are pretty much the same as far as metal gauge and other small items. Im well pleased so far as to the fit and finish, only ot to play with it for a few minutes before heading back to work but will post more later and even plan a youtube review soon. thanks to all that helped.
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BlazNT
Now I want one. There are no used husqvarna's around here.
BlazNT
Just bought the Husqvarna MZT 52, with the FS Kawasaki motor, got a great deal from Lanier outdoor equipment in Buford ga. 5k brand new uncrated, and ready to go. These guys are on ebay just like SLE and sell tons of mowers, they had crates and crates of new huskys, cub cadet, Ferris and others in stock. I will post pics soon. I did look at a fastrack and could have bought it for close to the same, quote was 5300.00 but when you start comparing the two machines then you see the hustler was lacking, 3100 trannys, aluminum spindles, FR kawi motor, 20'' rear tires compared to the MTZ with, 3400 trannies, cast iron spindles and the FC motor and 23'' rear tires. when it comes to the zero turns in the 6k retail range, my research found its more about the running gear, cause the rest of the mowers are pretty much the same as far as metal gauge and other small items. Im well pleased so far as to the fit and finish, only ot to play with it for a few minutes before heading back to work but will post more later and even plan a youtube review soon. thanks to all that helped.
Now I want one. There are no used husqvarna's around here.
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I really liked the fast track, but if they do something big, it will just drive the msrp up and I doubt many dealers will discount them till all the older fast tracks are sold off. What could they do?? add a FS motor? go up to 34's on the tranny, add cast iron spindles(no even the sd doesn't have that) the fast track sd has a FX motor, so they wont add it im sure. Bottom line they could beef it up with a better grade motor and better grade trannys and some other parts, but then basically you have a yellow MZT 52 but more expensive :laughing:
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The KAW engine was new to the M-ZT in 2014
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Now I want one. There are no used husqvarna's around here.
The KAW engine was new to the M-ZT in 2014
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What am I missing here MTZ52 for 5518.00 otd., I see advertised day in and day out the MTZ-61 with welded deck (like the one I own) for $4500, that would be plus tax, and here that would take it to about $4940 ... What kind of tax do y'all have.... Anyway at those prices I would definitely buy the Hustler SD54 for 3812.otd., no way would I go different at those prices, hello Hustlers are great mowers IMO...
I just think you either made a typo or the Husky is way over priced... What am I missing...???
Have a good one...Tater...
I just think you either made a typo or the Husky is way over priced... What am I missing...???
Have a good one...Tater...
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I have not seen a husky MZT 61 for $4500 anywhere. If you bought one new for that price then you got an unbelievable deal. For the extra money you get a commercial mower (mzt 52) compared to a high end residential (raptor sd 54). Personally I think $5518 for a mower with a welded deck, the fs series Kawi engine, and zt3400 drives is a very good deal. The raptor sd has the Kawi fr series, and zt2800 hydros. The husky holds more fuel and has larger tires. I do also like the raptor sd, but the mzt is a better mower. Not comparing apples to apples there.
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What am I missing here MTZ52 for 5518.00 otd., I see advertised day in and day out the MTZ-61 with welded deck (like the one I own) for $4500, that would be plus tax, and here that would take it to about $4940 ... What kind of tax do y'all have.... Anyway at those prices I would definitely buy the Hustler SD54 for 3812.otd., no way would I go different at those prices, hello Hustlers are great mowers IMO...
I just think you either made a typo or the Husky is way over priced... What am I missing...???
Have a good one...Tater...
I have not seen a husky MZT 61 for $4500 anywhere. If you bought one new for that price then you got an unbelievable deal. For the extra money you get a commercial mower (mzt 52) compared to a high end residential (raptor sd 54). Personally I think $5518 for a mower with a welded deck, the fs series Kawi engine, and zt3400 drives is a very good deal. The raptor sd has the Kawi fr series, and zt2800 hydros. The husky holds more fuel and has larger tires. I do also like the raptor sd, but the mzt is a better mower. Not comparing apples to apples there.
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What you saw advertised is a MZ61, msrp (4995.00)not a MZ-T 61,(6299.00 msrp w/kawi) 5995.00(w/brigs) big difference in the two, go to Husqvarna and do the compare models and you can see. I bought my MZT 52 (msrp 5899.00 w/kawi) for 5300.00 out the door, 5000.00 + 6% tax. I agree hustler is a good mower, but I extensively researched every model in the 6k price range and less and hustlers sd54 was much cheaper built, thinner steel frame, smaller trannies, fr home grade motors, smaller aluminum spindles and smaller clutch and the list goes on, smaller gas tank, you can get a better grade mower for the same price as a sd54 by using the compare model feature on hustlers site. A mzt 52 and a mzt 61 are comparable to hustlers top residential models above the raptor series, the fast track and they still have fr motors and only 3100 trannies it was priced best deal found was 5300.00 + tax, to better a mzt-52s specs you must step all the way up to the fast track SD then you get a FX motor
(which is the same as my FS except it has the better air cleaner) and 3400 trannies, but the price is best I found was 6500.00. You will get a good mower with either brand if you take the time to research them.
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What am I missing here MTZ52 for 5518.00 otd., I see advertised day in and day out the MTZ-61 with welded deck (like the one I own) for $4500, that would be plus tax, and here that would take it to about $4940 ... What kind of tax do y'all have.... Anyway at those prices I would definitely buy the Hustler SD54 for 3812.otd., no way would I go different at those prices, hello Hustlers are great mowers IMO...
I just think you either made a typo or the Husky is way over priced... What am I missing...???
Have a good one...Tater...
What you saw advertised is a MZ61, msrp (4995.00)not a MZ-T 61,(6299.00 msrp w/kawi) 5995.00(w/brigs) big difference in the two, go to Husqvarna and do the compare models and you can see. I bought my MZT 52 (msrp 5899.00 w/kawi) for 5300.00 out the door, 5000.00 + 6% tax. I agree hustler is a good mower, but I extensively researched every model in the 6k price range and less and hustlers sd54 was much cheaper built, thinner steel frame, smaller trannies, fr home grade motors, smaller aluminum spindles and smaller clutch and the list goes on, smaller gas tank, you can get a better grade mower for the same price as a sd54 by using the compare model feature on hustlers site. A mzt 52 and a mzt 61 are comparable to hustlers top residential models above the raptor series, the fast track and they still have fr motors and only 3100 trannies it was priced best deal found was 5300.00 + tax, to better a mzt-52s specs you must step all the way up to the fast track SD then you get a FX motor
(which is the same as my FS except it has the better air cleaner) and 3400 trannies, but the price is best I found was 6500.00. You will get a good mower with either brand if you take the time to research them.
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Agreed. The only other mower I have seen that has a comparable price and specs is the snapper pro s125xt ($5300). Have not seen any other brands offer an fs series Kawi engine, zt 3400 hydros, 61" fabricated deck, 22x10 tires, for anywhere close to that price. Except the z master series toro with the equine discount. That is the best deal out there for someone with horses.
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Shughes717
What you saw advertised is a MZ61, msrp (4995.00)not a MZ-T 61,(6299.00 msrp w/kawi) 5995.00(w/brigs) big difference in the two, go to Husqvarna and do the compare models and you can see. I bought my MZT 52 (msrp 5899.00 w/kawi) for 5300.00 out the door, 5000.00 + 6% tax. I agree hustler is a good mower, but I extensively researched every model in the 6k price range and less and hustlers sd54 was much cheaper built, thinner steel frame, smaller trannies, fr home grade motors, smaller aluminum spindles and smaller clutch and the list goes on, smaller gas tank, you can get a better grade mower for the same price as a sd54 by using the compare model feature on hustlers site. A mzt 52 and a mzt 61 are comparable to hustlers top residential models above the raptor series, the fast track and they still have fr motors and only 3100 trannies it was priced best deal found was 5300.00 + tax, to better a mzt-52s specs you must step all the way up to the fast track SD then you get a FX motor
(which is the same as my FS except it has the better air cleaner) and 3400 trannies, but the price is best I found was 6500.00. You will get a good mower with either brand if you take the time to research them.
Agreed. The only other mower I have seen that has a comparable price and specs is the snapper pro s125xt ($5300). Have not seen any other brands offer an fs series Kawi engine, zt 3400 hydros, 61" fabricated deck, 22x10 tires, for anywhere close to that price. Except the z master series toro with the equine discount. That is the best deal out there for someone with horses.
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When you say the FS is the same as the FX except it has the better air cleaner , your not even close. I have and run both and trust me there's a world of difference between the two motors.
I agree with what your saying, I also agree The Z Master Series Toro is a better mower and better deal than any of the above, with the equine or the $500 discount from Toro and there 0% financing for 48 months or longer I see no reason for buying any of the mowers mentioned when I can have a commercial with the FX engine same as cash.
Ric
What you saw advertised is a MZ61, msrp (4995.00)not a MZ-T 61,(6299.00 msrp w/kawi) 5995.00(w/brigs) big difference in the two, go to Husqvarna and do the compare models and you can see. I bought my MZT 52 (msrp 5899.00 w/kawi) for 5300.00 out the door, 5000.00 + 6% tax. I agree hustler is a good mower, but I extensively researched every model in the 6k price range and less and hustlers sd54 was much cheaper built, thinner steel frame, smaller trannies, fr home grade motors, smaller aluminum spindles and smaller clutch and the list goes on, smaller gas tank, you can get a better grade mower for the same price as a sd54 by using the compare model feature on hustlers site. A mzt 52 and a mzt 61 are comparable to hustlers top residential models above the raptor series, the fast track and they still have fr motors and only 3100 trannies it was priced best deal found was 5300.00 + tax, to better a mzt-52s specs you must step all the way up to the fast track SD then you get a FX motor
(which is the same as my FS except it has the better air cleaner) and 3400 trannies, but the price is best I found was 6500.00. You will get a good mower with either brand if you take the time to research them.
When you say the FS is the same as the FX except it has the better air cleaner , your not even close. I have and run both and trust me there's a world of difference between the two motors.
Agreed. The only other mower I have seen that has a comparable price and specs is the snapper pro s125xt ($5300). Have not seen any other brands offer an fs series Kawi engine, zt 3400 hydros, 61" fabricated deck, 22x10 tires, for anywhere close to that price. Except the z master series toro with the equine discount. That is the best deal out there for someone with horses.
I agree with what your saying, I also agree The Z Master Series Toro is a better mower and better deal than any of the above, with the equine or the $500 discount from Toro and there 0% financing for 48 months or longer I see no reason for buying any of the mowers mentioned when I can have a commercial with the FX engine same as cash.
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I said it was the best deal out there for horse owners. I do agree that the z master is a better mower than the mzt or the s125xt, but unless you have horses it it going to cost much more. I think there are better deals out there for comparable mowers for those who don't own horses. The snapper pro s150xt being one example. The big dog mower line looks like a good deal as well.
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When you say the FS is the same as the FX except it has the better air cleaner , your not even close. I have and run both and trust me there's a world of difference between the two motors.
I agree with what your saying, I also agree The Z Master Series Toro is a better mower and better deal than any of the above, with the equine or the $500 discount from Toro and there 0% financing for 48 months or longer I see no reason for buying any of the mowers mentioned when I can have a commercial with the FX engine same as cash.
I said it was the best deal out there for horse owners. I do agree that the z master is a better mower than the mzt or the s125xt, but unless you have horses it it going to cost much more. I think there are better deals out there for comparable mowers for those who don't own horses. The snapper pro s150xt being one example. The big dog mower line looks like a good deal as well.
#27
D
Dave1954
here are the specs for both.
Features: FS 22 hp
桧verhead V-valve
?0ï½° V-twin
è±igh performance pressurized lubrication
é«*lectronic spark ignition
柊utomatic compression release
肘nternally vented carburetor with fuel shut-off solenoid
ç´otating grass screen
ç–‹ual element air filter
匹ast-iron cylinder liners
.Specifications
Displacement
726cm3 (44.3cu. in.)
Number of Cylinders
2
Bore x Stroke
3.1 x 3.0 in. (78 x 76mm)
Compression Ratio
8.2:1
Oil capacity
2.2U.S. qt (2.1liters)
Maximum Power
22.0hp (16.4kW)
at 3,600rpm
Maximum Torque
39.4ft lbs (53.5Nï½·m)
at 2,000RPM
Dry weight
91.5lbs (41.5kg)
Features: FX 22 hp
桧verhead v-valve
?0ï½° V-twin
è±igh performance pressurized lubrication
é«*lectronic spark ignition
柊utomatic compression release
ç´otating grass screen
ç–‹ual stage canister air filter
匹ast-iron cylinder liners
ç*†etal engine cover
è±eavy-duty shift-type starter
謬win barrel, internally vented carburetor with fuel shut-off solenoid
.Specifications
Displacement
726cm3 (44.3cu. in.)
Number of Cylinders
2
Bore x Stroke
3.1 x 3.0 in. (78 x 76mm)
Compression Ratio
8.2:1
Oil capacity
2.2U.S. qt (2.1liters)
Maximum Power
22.0hp (16.4kW)
at 3,600rpm
Maximum Torque
39.4ft lbs (53.4Nï½·m)
D
Dave1954
I was going by the Kawasaki website, if you compare the FS 22 hp with the FX 22 hp, they have the exact same specs except fot the weight of the bigger air cleaner, about a pound.When you say the FS is the same as the FX except it has the better air cleaner , your not even close. I have and run both and trust me there's a world of difference between the two motors.
here are the specs for both.
Features: FS 22 hp
桧verhead V-valve
?0ï½° V-twin
è±igh performance pressurized lubrication
é«*lectronic spark ignition
柊utomatic compression release
肘nternally vented carburetor with fuel shut-off solenoid
ç´otating grass screen
ç–‹ual element air filter
匹ast-iron cylinder liners
.Specifications
Displacement
726cm3 (44.3cu. in.)
Number of Cylinders
2
Bore x Stroke
3.1 x 3.0 in. (78 x 76mm)
Compression Ratio
8.2:1
Oil capacity
2.2U.S. qt (2.1liters)
Maximum Power
22.0hp (16.4kW)
at 3,600rpm
Maximum Torque
39.4ft lbs (53.5Nï½·m)
at 2,000RPM
Dry weight
91.5lbs (41.5kg)
Features: FX 22 hp
桧verhead v-valve
?0ï½° V-twin
è±igh performance pressurized lubrication
é«*lectronic spark ignition
柊utomatic compression release
ç´otating grass screen
ç–‹ual stage canister air filter
匹ast-iron cylinder liners
ç*†etal engine cover
è±eavy-duty shift-type starter
謬win barrel, internally vented carburetor with fuel shut-off solenoid
.Specifications
Displacement
726cm3 (44.3cu. in.)
Number of Cylinders
2
Bore x Stroke
3.1 x 3.0 in. (78 x 76mm)
Compression Ratio
8.2:1
Oil capacity
2.2U.S. qt (2.1liters)
Maximum Power
22.0hp (16.4kW)
at 3,600rpm
Maximum Torque
39.4ft lbs (53.4Nï½·m)
#28
Ric
Ric
I Think if you compare model to model you'll find a difference. If you use for example the FX and FS 651 models you'll find a difference. The FX 651 is 20.5 hp, the FS 651 is 22 hp. If you compare the FX 691 it's a 22 hp and its counter part the FS 691 is 23 hp and there all 726 cc engines just set up differently. I mean really would you say the FR 691 at 23 hp is the same thing because it is 726 cc also. Here's the specs for the FR 691.
| Displacement | 726cm[SUP]3[/SUP] (44.3cu. in.) |
| Number of Cylinders | 2 |
| Bore x Stroke | 3.1 x 3.0 in. (78 x 76mm) |
| Compression Ratio | 8.2:1 |
| Oil capacity | 2.2U.S. qt (2.1liters) |
| Maximum Power | 23.0hp (17.2kW) at 3,600rpm |
| Maximum Torque | 39.5ft lbs (53.6N·m) at 2,200RPM |
| Dry weight | 89.0lbs (40.4kg) |
#30
D
Dave1954
D
Dave1954
I was comparing two motors a FS and a FX that both had 22 hp, and the specs speak for themselves, same motors just with different air cleaner systems. part numbers mean nothing, you cant compare a 23hp motor with a 20 hp or others, of course they are different.
#31
T
Tater
Have a good one...Tater...
T
Tater
Yep, my bad I confused the series....Old eyes see what they want to sometimes....Sorry about that...lol... The one I paid $4,500 for was an MZ2861 or whatever... I actually know nothing about the MTZ 61, I apologize...:ashamed:...I have not seen a husky MZT 61 for $4500 anywhere. If you bought one new for that price then you got an unbelievable deal. For the extra money you get a commercial mower (mzt 52) compared to a high end residential (raptor sd 54). Personally I think $5518 for a mower with a welded deck, the fs series Kawi engine, and zt3400 drives is a very good deal. The raptor sd has the Kawi fr series, and zt2800 hydros. The husky holds more fuel and has larger tires. I do also like the raptor sd, but the mzt is a better mower. Not comparing apples to apples there.
Have a good one...Tater...