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Muffler Smokes

#1

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

I have a Craftsman 25cc blower. When I run this blower at full throttle for 30 seconds and then turn it off, hot white smoke pours off and out of the muffler for about 10 seconds. The smoke rises off the metal of the muffler and some comes out the exhaust hole. When I remove the spark arrestor, there is less smoke but the problem is still there. When I remove the muffler altogether, there is no smoke. Could there be oil in the muffler that is being heated by the exhaust? When I take the muffler off, I notice that the exhaust port is oily. I have had several machines do this in the past and am looking for an explanation.
I have five questions:

1. What causes the problem?
2. What should I do to stop it?
3. Will the problem go away if I simply continue to use the blower?
4. Is it safe to use the blower while the problem persists?
5. While the problem persists, is there any risk of the blower catching on fire while I am using it or after I have shut it down?

I want to blow off my driveway, but I am afraid to use my blower for fear it will catch on fire in the process.

Thanks!


#2

exotion

exotion

Running a wee bit to much 2 cycle oil I would think.


#3

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

I soaked the muffler in mineral spirits in an attempt to dissolve the oil, but the problem still persists. Should I keep using the blower to burn all the oil out, or is it too dangerous?


#4

R

Rivets

As said, your oil/fuel mixture is too rich.


#5

ILENGINE

ILENGINE

If you are using the poulan craftsman oil, I have seen cases where the oil will drip out of the muffler. and not burn correctly.


#6

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

I use the Echo PowerBlend oil. I will try to mix the fuel leaner.


#7

7394

7394

when is last time you cleaned or replaced the air filter ? If it is dirty the engine will run too rich, & can cause it to smoke, if clean, then agree with the others too much oil in mix.


#8

exotion

exotion

when is last time you cleaned or replaced the air filter ? If it is dirty the engine will run too rich, & can cause it to smoke, if clean, then agree with the others too much oil in mix.

Good point Here air filters are cheap just replace it anyway and double check amount of oil being used


#9

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

Is it safe to use the blower while the smoking persists?


#10

exotion

exotion

Is it safe to use the blower while the smoking persists?

Ya my poulon hedge trimmer smokes a lot and I keep using it


#11

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

It seems that some of you are prescribing accurate methods for reducing the amount of exhaust smoke while the engine is running. My blower smokes very little while the engine is running, but smoke pours off the metal of the muffler (not out the exhaust hole) after the engine is stopped. While this could be caused by unburned oil being spit into the muffler, very little, if any, oil is spit out the exhaust port while the engine is running with no muffler.

Several facts which might be of use:

The carburetor, fuel filter, fuel lines and spark plug on this engine are all brand new.

The smoking decreases when the spark arrestor is removed.

The fuel in this engine is part of a batch that I mixed two or three days previous to running the blower. The other part of the batch was used in my weed trimmer, which runs fine without smoking at all when the engine is off.

The area on the muffler from which the smoke arises is a dull grey, while the rest of the muffler is bright and shiny.


#12

exotion

exotion

It seems that some of you are prescribing accurate methods for reducing the amount of exhaust smoke while the engine is running. My blower smokes very little while the engine is running, but smoke pours off the metal of the muffler (not out the exhaust hole) after the engine is stopped. While this could be caused by unburned oil being spit into the muffler, very little, if any, oil is spit out the exhaust port while the engine is running with no muffler.

Several facts which might be of use:

The carburetor, fuel filter, fuel lines and spark plug on this engine are all brand new.

The smoking decreases when the spark arrestor is removed.

The fuel in this engine is part of a batch that I mixed two or three days previous to running the blower. The other part of the batch was used in my weed trimmer, which runs fine without smoking at all when the engine is off.

The area on the muffler from which the smoke arises is a dull grey, while the rest of the muffler is bright and shiny.

Your two machines could require different oil mixes most higher end machines require 50:1 while lower end require 40:1 or 30:1 my poulon requires 40:1 but I use 50:1 because my echo and stihl require that and I don't want two gas cans this is why my poulon smokes same symptoms as yours I've removed spark arrestor clean air filter every few uses(it only gets used once and a while) and clean exhaust port annually I just deal with the smoke if I wanted to get rid of it I would get a seperate can and mix a proper 40:1 using a squeeze bottle that you can get at any auto part store it measures out accurately


#13

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

Yours smokes after it has been turned off too? Mine requires 40:1 mixture, it says so on the gas cap, and that is what I put in it. You stated that you put 50:1 in your hedge trimmer that takes 40:1, wouldn't less oil ruin it? How does less oil make it smoke more? I would think that more oil would cause more smoke, not less.


#14

exotion

exotion

Yours smokes after it has been turned off too? Mine requires 40:1 mixture, it says so on the gas cap, and that is what I put in it. You stated that you put 50:1 in your hedge trimmer that takes 40:1, wouldn't less oil ruin it? How does less oil make it smoke more? I would think that more oil would cause more smoke, not less.

40:1.is 3.2 ounces per gallon 50:1 is 2.6 ounces per gallon


#15

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

Right. 50:1 is less oil than 40:1. If you run 50:1 in a machine requiring 40:1, wouldn't it seize for lack of oil? And how would less oil make a machine smoke more?


#16

exotion

exotion

Right. 50:1 is less oil than 40:1. If you run 50:1 in a machine requiring 40:1, wouldn't it seize for lack of oil? And how would less oil make a machine smoke more?

Hmm guess I never gave that Much more thought. I've ran 3 ounces per gallon so it does get a little less oil so not sure then its just a Smokey machine


#17

7394

7394

Possibly blow-by past the piston rings ?


#18

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

I will perform a comprssion test on this blower. When I pull the crank, I don't fell much resistance, although I am inclined to think the problem is in the muffler, as I don't see oil coming out the exhaust when I run it with no muffler.


#19

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

This may sound weird, but I think it's burning its muffler up. Should I get a new one?


#20

exotion

exotion

This may sound weird, but I think it's burning its muffler up. Should I get a new one?

Try cleaning it first. I usually submerge it in brake cleaner over night and then scrub what I can blow it out with air


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