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This spring I bought a new JD ez-trak it has a B&S V-twin on my old 180 I have always used a FL-1 on it and I wanted to get an automotive filter for the new one.
The filter at my local JD dealer is priced outrageous

I wanted to find a good filter with a good price and if it was something that I already keep in stock that would really be good.

The FL-1 is too long not enough room between the engine and frame but the FL-910s that fits my Focus fits.
The 910s is about a inch longer than the JD filter but that is not a problem it fits.

It is larger diameter canister but the seal is the same as the JD filter.
The 910s has a ADBV so it should be ok using it horizontal the relief bypass opens at 14.5 psi while the Briggs opens at 9 psi so I would be less likely to be bypassing dirty oil.

The only spec I can not find for the Briggs is flow rate.

The FL-910 gives the flow rate but nothing to compare it to.

Common sense tells me if it flows enough for a 2.0 L 4 cylinder at 7000 rpm it should be enough for a 724CC at 3400 rpm.

This is available at Wal Mart Auto Zone it is cheap and I already keep those on the shelf anyway and the Motorcraft filters are made by Purolator good filter for the money I have used them for 40 years these are really good filters.

This looks like a win-win to me.
Instead of 14 Bucks at my local JD dealer I can buy the 910s for $3.85 and have a better filter.

Anyone wanting to change the thread is a 3\4-16 same as what Ford uses.

GM uses 13\16-16 won't work.

I have been using a FL-1 on my Kawasaki in my 180 for 25 years and saved a ton of money. :biggrin:

The OEM filters for my JD are part number M806419, one time my dealer didn't have that number in stock (would have been about $9.50 with tax) so he substituted a Wix 51064, priced at $11 with tax. He said quality was the same. I checked, and I can buy 8 Wix 51064 filters at Auto Parts Tomorrow | ACDelco, Bendix Brakes, Denso, Motorcraft and more for just over $50, no sales tax, free delivery with a $50 order. You guys will not believe this one...my '04 Saturn L-300 has a metal canister that holds a pleated paper refill, the paper refill in really small, but for a quality brand like PureOne, the local stores was FOURTEEN DOLLARS for ONE PAPER FILTER....

I can get a quality Wix filter for my Saturn from APT for $4.60....big freaking difference there. A THIRD of the cost.

JDgreen said:

The OEM filters for my JD are part number M806419, one time my dealer didn't have that number in stock (would have been about $9.50 with tax) so he substituted a Wix 51064, priced at $11 with tax. He said quality was the same. I checked, and I can buy 8 Wix 51064 filters at Auto Parts Tomorrow | ACDelco, Bendix Brakes, Denso, Motorcraft and more for just over $50, no sales tax, free delivery with a $50 order. You guys will not believe this one...my '04 Saturn L-300 has a metal canister that holds a pleated paper refill, the paper refill in really small, but for a quality brand like PureOne, the local stores was FOURTEEN DOLLARS for ONE PAPER FILTER....

I can get a quality Wix filter for my Saturn from APT for $4.60....big freaking difference there. A THIRD of the cost.

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Yes the Pure One is one of the best but expensive and since the Motorcraft is a re-badged Pure One it is a excellent filter at a good price.

Black Bart said:

Yes the Pure One is one of the best but expensive and since the Motorcraft is a re-badged Pure One it is a excellent filter at a good price.

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You don't see many Motorcraft filters being sold locally, somebody here laughing::thumbsup gave me a link to an oil filter study and according to the study, the best brands of filters were Wix, Pure One, K&N, Mobil 1, and Motorcraft. I would go with Pure One myself IF I could find them at a reasonable price. Advance Auto raised the price of the Pure Ones from $9 to $14 less than a year ago.

JDgreen said:

You don't see many Motorcraft filters being sold locally, somebody here laughing::thumbsup gave me a link to an oil filter study and according to the study, the best brands of filters were Wix, Pure One, K&N, Mobil 1, and Motorcraft. I would go with Pure One myself IF I could find them at a reasonable price. Advance Auto raised the price of the Pure Ones from $9 to $14 less than a year ago.

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The FL-1a is basically the same thing as a Pure One but cost far less.
Since I own several Ford vehicles and they fit my JD mowers it is a no brainer for me. :licking:

I have a Mobil-1 on the vette because of the extra strong case. I have high oil pressure on that engine

Black Bart said:

The FL-1a is basically the same thing as a Pure One but cost far less.
Since I own several Ford vehicles and they fit my JD mowers it is a no brainer for me. :licking:

I have a Mobil-1 on the vette because of the extra strong case. I have high oil pressure on that engine

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I use my GMC Yukon for towing, it gets a K&N filter.

Go to :

Lawn Mower Parts
and look up your brand engines filter, it will list the thread diameter and pitch along with the relief valve setting in psi and whether or not is is anti drain back. With this info you can match up any auto filter , and many believe the bigger, the better. I think you will find that the vast majority of small engine filters are 3/4 16 in the 8-11 psi and are anti drain back-it keeps the filter full of oil when the engine shuts down. Although I think this is important only when the filter is mounted upright and higher up on the engine, but I ain't the smartest person with regard to recip engines.

JDgreen said:

I use my GMC Yukon for towing, it gets a K&N filter.

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The only difference between the K&N and the Mobil filter is the K&N has a nut on the bottom and cost 3 bucks more.

Black Bart said:

The only difference between the K&N and the Mobil filter is the K&N has a nut on the bottom and cost 3 bucks more.

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And stores around here carry the K&N but not the Mobil.....:laughing::laughing:

Was at the local Meijers store today, the automotive section used to stock Meijer brand oil filters, AC-Delco, MotorCraft, and Purolator. These days they carry only Fram (CRAP) and Pure One, plenty of different Fram models but very few Pure One models. One for my GMC is $14 with tax there.

JDgreen said:

And stores around here carry the K&N but not the Mobil.....:laughing::laughing:

Was at the local Meijers store today, the automotive section used to stock Meijer brand oil filters, AC-Delco, MotorCraft, and Purolator. These days they carry only Fram (CRAP) and Pure One, plenty of different Fram models but very few Pure One models. One for my GMC is $14 with tax there.

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WHAT ?? You didn't buy the orange kiss of death for your engine. :laughing:

+3 on the apparent poor reputation of Fram filters. I've "filleted" a couple of filters with the oil filter cutting tool I've got, and there are some big differences in the kind and amount of filtering medium inside the different filters. For me, Amsoil and Wix filters are my favorites.

Let me see if I can get this straight, we can use vehicle oil filters on lawn mowers? How do you know which one will fit? Just take the old one in with you and match up the threads? What is a good brand of oil filter (in your opinion of course)?

Dave

*** DISREGARD, I just read Roberts post sorry, I guess from now on I should read the entire thread first.

robert said:

Go to :

Lawn Mower Parts
and look up your brand engines filter, it will list the thread diameter and pitch along with the relief valve setting in psi and whether or not is is anti drain back. With this info you can match up any auto filter , and many believe the bigger, the better. I think you will find that the vast majority of small engine filters are 3/4 16 in the 8-11 psi and are anti drain back-it keeps the filter full of oil when the engine shuts down. Although I think this is important only when the filter is mounted upright and higher up on the engine, but I ain't the smartest person with regard to recip engines.

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Actually you need the ADBV when the filter is mounted horizontal to keep the filter from draining back into the engine.

I need the Fram replacement for a Great Dane Chariot hydrastatic oil filter #GDA10137. I tried Fram's cross reference site, but it didn't list the Great Dane filter. Anyone know what Fram filter replaces it?

You need to get the model and serial numbers from your hydrostatic drive unit, then look for filters that are compatible.

Mad Mackie said:

You need to get the model and serial numbers from your hydrostatic drive unit, then look for filters that are compatible.

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Fram, Wix, AC Delco & other sites had no cross reference for that mower or filter. I did get some information on eBay & found Fram P11588 or Stens 120-372 are correct for my hydrostatic system.

Now I have another problem. My service manual say to use "15W-50 ALL SYNTHETIC OIL".

My neighbor's Hustler mechanic told him to use conventional oil and, "DO NOT USE SYNTHETIC OIL". He said synthetic would ruin the system.

Do you use synthetic oil in your hydrostatic drive unit?

I found this thread & post by "ddbtdd", so I guess I'll go with Mobil 1 full synthetic, as the Great Dane book says.

http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/grave...aulic-oil-type.html?highlight=hydrostatic+oil
ddbtdd says:
"I recently changed the oil in my hydros but before I did I called Hydro-gear and asked what they recommend.
The man I spoke to said all Hydro gears ship out with MOBIL conventional oil.
It was alright to use synthetic but not necessary.
So then I called Snapper Pro. They suggested synthetic but said it was not necessary.
So what did I use? Valvoline Full Synthetic 20w50 just because I can!"

I also found:
All these filters cross reference to each other and are interchangeable.
If your machine uses one of these, you might want to save this.

AC Delco...........PF1685
Bad Boy............063-8014-00
Baldwin.............BT346
Fram.................P11588
Gravely.............GDA-10137
Great Dane........GDA10137
John Deere........M131053
NAPA................1200
NAPA................1519
Scag.................48462-01
Snapper............2-7164
Snapper............7027164
Wix..................51200
Wix..................51519

All have these specs:
Thread Size: 1 " -12
OD: 3 3/4 "
Height: 3 7/8 "
Micron: 10