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pdowty68

I just got a Lawn boy 10247 and I've never owned a lawn boy before and I hear great things about lawn boy oil. I hear it smells good too, should I pick some up?
Thanks,
Paul


#2

exotion

exotion

I haven't seen it anywhere although I haven't been actually looked for it either. If you can find it. Why not?


#3

AnthemBassMan

AnthemBassMan

We all have our favorites, but you can't argue with 40 year old Lawn Boys still running using their oil...


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jakewells

jakewells

just find a oil on the shelf that is JASO FC/FD rated and use it, it can be purchased at parts stores usually available in quart or pint bottles.


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jp1961

Try A.C.E or A.C.O hardware stores. I've purchased it there before, however the container didn't say LawnBoy generation II ashless oil as it did in the past. I currently use Valvoline multi-purpose 2 stroke oil.

Jeff


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AnthemBassMan

AnthemBassMan

I'll snap a pic tomorrow morning of the newer Lawn Boy oil. I work at a grocery store that has an Ace Hardware attached to it.

L8R,
Matt


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Mystik2stroke

Mystik2stroke

https://www.mystiklubes.com/do/product/BOATING_PWC/663084002

this is the Lawnboy oil, relabeled , it is a modern formulation . Always use a NMMA TCW-3 oil for these motors, look on the container for the RL# certification from NMMA.


#8

dewguy1999

dewguy1999

You can find Lawn-Boy 2-cycle oil at Do it Best hardware stores.


#9

bt3

bt3

The mega corporation we all know, Amazon, has it. I've ordered it from them.

If you want the original that came in cans, you can find these usually on eBay.

I've personally switched to Synthetic. I'm tired of cleaning exhaust ports and mufflers twice a year just to keep things running.


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dewguy1999

dewguy1999

bt3 said:
The mega corporation we all know, Amazon, has it. I've ordered it from them.

If you want the original that came in cans, you can find these usually on eBay.

I've personally switched to Synthetic. I'm tired of cleaning exhaust ports and mufflers twice a year just to keep things running.
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I know that I need to, but since I don't the necessary tool and material I've never cleaned my Lawn-Boy's exhaust port and it still runs fine, I must be lucky. Any particular brand of synthetic? Does it need to be 2-cycle synthetic? Is it mixed at 32:1 or a different ratio?


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bt3

bt3

dewguy1999 said:
I know that I need to, but since I don't the necessary tool and material I've never cleaned my Lawn-Boy's exhaust port and it still runs fine, I must be lucky. Any particular brand of synthetic? Does it need to be 2-cycle synthetic? Is it mixed at 32:1 or a different ratio?
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Most Synthetic brands come from the same root company, like Shell Oil, so I don't worry about a particular brand of Synthetic. Yes, it needs to be 2 Cycle Synthetic. Most stores that carry 2 Cycle engine oil also carry the Synthetic 2 Cycle. I got mine at a local Sears Hardware.

You can run 2 Cycle Synthetic a little leaner than 32:1, but I do not. I still run it at around 32:1, sometimes probably closer to 30:1.

You are lucky if you have never cleaned your exhaust ports or muffler and yet you are running fine. I made the mistake of running a cheap grocery store brand "Arnold" 2 cycle oil that I actually bought at a grocery store. l had some issues with carbon with this brand. Also, in a pinch one time I ran 2 cycle "Stihl" chainsaw oil at probably 40:1 (maybe more) and that really carboned the machine up big time. Even when running the original LawnBoy "Ashless" oil at 32:1 I had issues with Carbon in the exhaust ports and muffler. Since running Synthetic, I no longer have these issues.

I don't mind working on my LawnBoy. I actually enjoy it. But the job of cleaning the carbon out of the exhaust ports and the muffler is just gosh awful messy. I've seen people clean these mufflers (NON ALUMINUM!) by putting them on an outdoor gas grill and burning the carbon out that way under very high heat. I don't do this. I scrape out the black carbon and then clean with solvent to make sure it is very clean. That is a messy job no matter how you slice it. I'm hoping that Synthetic will cut this process down to once every two years. With regular 2 cycle oil, I was doing it at least twice a season.
The only good thing about having to clean the exhaust ports and muffler is that you are forced to take the blade off, so it gives you an opportunity to sharpen and balance the blade as long as you are removing it. Other than that, it's a very messy job unless you are burning the carbon off.


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dewguy1999

dewguy1999

bt3 said:
Most Synthetic brands come from the same root company, like Shell Oil, so I don't worry about a particular brand of Synthetic. Yes, it needs to be 2 Cycle Synthetic. Most stores that carry 2 Cycle engine oil also carry the Synthetic 2 Cycle. I got mine at a local Sears Hardware.

You can run 2 Cycle Synthetic a little leaner than 32:1, but I do not. I still run it at around 32:1, sometimes probably closer to 30:1.

You are lucky if you have never cleaned your exhaust ports or muffler and yet you are running fine. I made the mistake of running a cheap grocery store brand "Arnold" 2 cycle oil that I actually bought at a grocery store. l had some issues with carbon with this brand. Also, in a pinch one time I ran 2 cycle "Stihl" chainsaw oil at probably 40:1 (maybe more) and that really carboned the machine up big time. Even when running the original LawnBoy "Ashless" oil at 32:1 I had issues with Carbon in the exhaust ports and muffler. Since running Synthetic, I no longer have these issues.

I don't mind working on my LawnBoy. I actually enjoy it. But the job of cleaning the carbon out of the exhaust ports and the muffler is just gosh awful messy. I've seen people clean these mufflers (NON ALUMINUM!) by putting them on an outdoor gas grill and burning the carbon out that way under very high heat. I don't do this. I scrape out the black carbon and then clean with solvent to make sure it is very clean. That is a messy job no matter how you slice it. I'm hoping that Synthetic will cut this process down to once every two years. With regular 2 cycle oil, I was doing it at least twice a season.
The only good thing about having to clean the exhaust ports and muffler is that you are forced to take the blade off, so it gives you an opportunity to sharpen and balance the blade as long as you are removing it. Other than that, it's a very messy job unless you are burning the carbon off.
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Thanks. I've used Echo PowerBlend (a synthetic blend at 50:1 I guess) a few times and the rest of the time over the last 14-years I've used the Lawn-Boy 2-cycle oil. Sounds like you've got one of older Lawn-Boys with the under deck muffler, mine is a E series DuraForce engine so the muffler is above the deck in the front and the exhaust port can be accessed without removing the blade or muffler.


#13

lawnboywillneverdie

lawnboywillneverdie

Ik this is off topic but how would you rate this mower in condition and what would you think about value if possible

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#14

bt3

bt3

lawnboywillneverdie said:
Ik this is off topic but how would you rate this mower in condition and what would you think about value if possible
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Rating a mower from a picture is like shooting darts at a board, but from the picture, it looks like it is in very good shape. How it is mechanically and how it was taken care of can be a very different story, as you know.

Value? Are you buying or selling?


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bt3

bt3

dewguy1999 said:
Thanks. I've used Echo PowerBlend (a synthetic blend at 50:1 I guess) a few times and the rest of the time over the last 14-years I've used the Lawn-Boy 2-cycle oil. Sounds like you've got one of older Lawn-Boys with the under deck muffler, mine is a E series DuraForce engine so the muffler is above the deck in the front and the exhaust port can be accessed without removing the blade or muffler.
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Yes, mine is from 1992. I purchased it used from a dealer about 8 years ago. Always wanted a LawnBoy. My Snapper 4 cycle Commercial model with the Wisconsin Robin engine is a beast, but it's heavy. The Drive mechanism for the rear wheels is very complicated and convoluted. I lost a few key parts on it years ago and never bothered to try and get a replacement. They may not be available now since it is a 1984 model. Lately it has gas in the oil issues so a needle valve in the carb is stuck. It's going to be a pain to fix it. And changing the oil is a genuine pain. So I am very glad I have the LawnBoy now. What I did not plan on is how temperamental some of these older LawnBoys can be.

I know your model a bit. I almost bought one. It is a decent model IMO. Has more horsepower than mine, and is updated in style.


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lawnboywillneverdie

lawnboywillneverdie

bt3 said:
Rating a mower from a picture is like shooting darts at a board, but from the picture, it looks like it is in very good shape. How it is mechanically and how it was taken care of can be a very different story, as you know.

Value? Are you buying or selling?
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just wanted a number but mechanically its been rebuilt and has never surged (knock on wood) and has been mowing an acre a week for 14 years. very well taken care of by me of course :).


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lawnboywillneverdie

lawnboywillneverdie

i am not selling just wanting to know its true value to someone who know more than me which you probably do from the looks of this thread.


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bt3

bt3

lawnboywillneverdie said:
i am not selling just wanting to know its true value to someone who know more than me which you probably do from the looks of this thread.
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My dealer would put a price on that of $250 and sell it for $200 if you haggled with him. When I bought mine from him he had it marked $200 and I got him down to $150 cash out the door. But mine was much older and not in as good of cosmetic shape as yours appears to be. Plus mine is only 4 HP. But.... "It's a LawnBoy".

A Dealer putting $250 on a used mower like yours is good money and shows value of the brand, when you consider you can get a new Craftsman for $179 on sale this month. However, the Craftsman does not have self drive. It's pure push mowing. And, as my Dealer would tell you, "It's a LawnBoy, it's made to hold up for more than a few seasons."

Of course, what my Dealer would put on it as a retail price and what you could sell it for on Craigslist or eBay may be different. But that's what my Dealer would do, I can almost guarantee it. I've seen his showroom of used mowers for the last 10 years. Decent ones in the shape of yours hover between $200 and $250.


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bt3

bt3

dewguy1999 said:
I know that I need to, but since I don't the necessary tool and material I've never cleaned my Lawn-Boy's exhaust port and it still runs fine, I must be lucky. Any particular brand of synthetic? Does it need to be 2-cycle synthetic? Is it mixed at 32:1 or a different ratio?
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I miss-typed my previous reply hitting a 3 instead of a 4 on the ratio and it's too late to correct it.

I run my Synthetic at a target of around 40:1 for my LawnBoy.

Some say they run 50:1, and that's probably on the bubble for Synthetic, but I feel more comfortable with 40:1, and, no ash/carbon buildup in my ports and muffler like I was used to. I also run this in my STIHL chainsaw without any issues. It's lean enough and being synthetic it performs well.

I've been ordering Royal Purple High Performance 2 cycle oil from Amazon by the quart. Delivered for just a few bucks. It's been working out very well.

FYI: Amazon.com: Royal Purple 01311 HP 2-C High Performance Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil - 1 Quart Bottle: Automotive


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Phototone

I still use the Lawnboy oil, which I get at my local ACE Hardware franchise. I use it at the factory dilution, but I put a dollop of Marvel Mystery Oil in my 2 gallon fuel can, too!!


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bt3

bt3

Phototone said:
I still use the Lawnboy oil, which I get at my local ACE Hardware franchise. I use it at the factory dilution, but I put a dollop of Marvel Mystery Oil in my 2 gallon fuel can, too!!
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Yea, I use 2 cap fulls of Marvel Mystery Oil per tank on my Mowers. I've been using it to lube Air Tools for decades. I also use to lightly oil things around the house like door hinges and locks, sewing machines and record player turntables (yea, I am still into Vinyl). Truthfully, I love Marvel Mystery Oil, but if you Google it, you'll find that there are just as many negatives about it as positives regarding 2 cycle use. Some say it glazes the piston heads. What the heck, it seems to work for me. Last time I popped off the head, there was no piston glazing.

RE: LawnBoy Oil, I'm not sure what company actually manufactures it for LawnBoy these days, but I suppose it's as good as any regular 2 cycle oil. I just got tired of cleaning muffler and exhaust ports twice a year, so I switched to Synthetic at a leaner mix (40:1). But if it works for you, great. My favorite expression when it comes to things like this is, "If it isn't broken, then don't fix it" My :2cents: worth.


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Phototone

Well, on all the Lawnboy mowers that I have purchased new over the years, and used Lawnboy oil at the recommended ratio, I have NEVER had exhaust ports carboned up. On those used mowers that I have rebuilt, I have seen carboned-up exhause ports and mufflers, but I have no idea what oil was used prior to my ownership.


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bt3

bt3

Phototone said:
Well, on all the Lawnboy mowers that I have purchased new over the years, and used Lawnboy oil at the recommended ratio, I have NEVER had exhaust ports carboned up. On those used mowers that I have rebuilt, I have seen carboned-up exhause ports and mufflers, but I have no idea what oil was used prior to my ownership.
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I wish I was that lucky. I tried genuine Ashless LawnBoy oil for years, mixed just as prescribed. Lots of carbon issues. Since switching to Synthetic at 40:1 I'm now fine. It could be my F series engine in particular. Who knows. Whatever the reason, Synthetic did the trick for me so what works, works.


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